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Irrespective of anything else I do agree Casey is a bit of a bugger. Fine if you're somewhere within cooee. I live on the Bass Coast these days and regularly travel to Frankston as well as use the dreaded Monash ( quite often ) I have a pretty good understanding of the area and roads. Tbh... if I were living where I suspect many players are then I would not relish that trip to Casey. That said its often only once or twice a week at present but if it were closer to a daily grind id seriously start resenting it. Casey imho is ONLY suited to the occasional alternative training day. We are the oldest Footy club going.. F m d ..can't we sort out a decent home ?? I can see the attraction of Caulfield. It ticks a lot of boxes unfortunately it seems to be ticking off some others..... TBH I can't see how a facility on the OTHER side of the racecourse can really be problematic... well..until you understand a lot of people who move in those circles are terribly precious and wholly up themselves. Got time for 'workers, riders and trainers' .. my old dad enjoyed the nags. We even had some at Epson... but the hoi poloi dont want anyone 'ruining' their turf ( literally and figuratively ) . I hope Red is right but I fear Old might get the choccies.

Lets just hypothesise that this is still all a possibility. A 'hurdle' seems to be the dreaded tunnel. Apparently all the OTHERS weren't but this one is ? Is there a need ? I would say yes. If we're to be located in that bottom left corner as it were with playing fields northerly to any other infrastructure then direct , proprietary even, access would imho be desired. This provides quick easy direct access for the club to the training ovals. Tbh the idea of ferrying around players , or they're driving themselves to the inside is a nonsense in the modern day. They come, eat perhaps, change, train inside maybe, team meetings, presentations etc... and out to the grounds... You're NOT mucking around going walkies half a mile up the road. That's not happening. So a tunnel is desirous. Like the trivago bloke, do I really need to say it again... this is EASY. It's just civil construction. You have a plan, you have a schedule... you get to it. The only equipment needed inside the rails as it were are any plant required for terraforming. If were me... id take off the running surface at an appropriate location... store maintain the grass sods ( same as would for the cut / cover tunnel. You lay a heavy wood 'bog mats' over earth substrate. If its an extended time... replace grass whilst plant working... then repeat process to evacuate equipment when finished. As far as the training facility infrastructure goes this would be likely the most 'painful' thing to manage but of itself very straight forward. It's a problem, it's solvable. The rest is just putting up a factory/warehouse type construct with admin area and fit outs. Absolutely nothing new or prohibitive. None of this is hard. Some care to the track requires but again.... there are workarounds. Indeed if you were a bit clever clogs 😉 I'd introduce plant to the inside having dug the trench and ramps for the tunnel. When needing to bring equipment out then refer back to the bog-mat process. If super clever you might not need to truck out much if any spoil just relocate it.. I.e use it as part of 'landscaping '. Any other soils sands required for ovals could be brought in whilst trench open and stockpiled. This is eminently very doable.... just that other little hurdle.... someone saying we can.

Except this isn't really a BIG build... the new school next door .... a much bigger project.

The way some carry on about this 'complex' , about all the things involved, some near seemingly insurmountable... sorry I have to laugh. In the world of civil engineering, the Metro Tunnel is a complex project, a 100 storey building , not as complex ( these days ) as some would suppose... a new Training establishment for the Dees, OUGHT to be a walk in the park ( or a lap of the course or two ) by comparison. There is NOTHING hard or confronting about this at least not as being presented to date. The ONLY thing hard....is finding a spot and someone telling us to start. I seriously dont think the coin is the issue some think. No, the only issue is as of this writing we have nowhere to build. Prospects not looking too flash either.

Nail, head, hit

Disagree .. You'd cut and store the sods. Just like pre grown turf. That can't be the real issue. Not wanting us there... hmm.. some certainly don't.

There is no way in hell you need to shut down for a year for a piddly [censored] tunnel. We're not talking the bloody Metro Loop here. Maybe a dozen sections of precast roof/walls and a poured floor. [censored] .. 2 weeks They dont race there all year. Someone's peddling bu11**** bigtime

A good summation . A very different looking Dees. No longer stop/start...no more slow hesitations allowing defenders all the time in the world to set up. Much better use out of the middle. Much to like. Bodes well imho. Now for some real competition... bring it on.

No fear.... the baby Dees and old farts will clean them up. True dinks 😉

Did we win ?

Wasn't actually the question. Do staff...I.e. Admin want to relocate to Waverley ? They might ... i don't know. Does anyone ? 🤷

Ought to be even more effective now..... now we have some idea of what to do going forward 😉

I've chortled for some whiles now that I dont see 26as all doom and gloom, far from it imho. I still harbour the notion we will surprise a few and it might well emanate from the engine room itself. Oh we will be a bit rusty and clunky to begin but I think as we settle into more of a real rhythm after a handful of games the new- midfield, as it were, might start meshing. Tbh I don't really understand why many if any were overly enmeshed with the midfield of old. It was a far less formidable entity than 20/21/22 era. Most of our real drive came via the half back line... the days of bang bang bang out of the middle were imho very short lived. After that it was more bang crash walloped!! Windsor will be the key here . Steele will offer a steady and knowing guiding hand. The likes of Culley might prove interesting, at least entertaining and speaking of showmen... well.... over to you Kozzie !! I think we might go ok 👍👍👍

The socials are reflecting.... a change in mood ( cue...KITK ).... There's a different feel to the place....

Used to find Queenstown quite fun...🗻🏞 Falls at a push Grolloland if desperate Nice Reds over the Ditch ✈️😉 🍷

When you can have a laugh at yourself you're going ok i reckon. Can't take life too seriously ( and we're very practiced in that 😉🙄 ) Well done Dees Cheers 🧀🍷🎿 That #11 huh ......

Yes... did not go un-noticed 😉

Yes and No... imo Yes...as to the ideas of why... No ...as there's no substantial expansion to any of that. It's all.. it might be this...might be that. You see.. nothing has actually been communicated. Nothing. A lot of 'nudge nudge'... followed up by "crickets". We had...announcements that announcements are forthcoming....and then the afore mentioned ....crickets !! Anyone who has ever dealt with any developments knows the nature of the hurdles.. but i can tell you if this were just another Commercial development with any of a number and type of stakeholders there WOULD be updates... be progress, because thats what it's actually about, progression..I.e.. building the building. If there was neither the project managers would be fired and replaced. The notion that no news is acceptable is a nonsense. There may well be constraints but these are not covered by the Secret Squirrel Act. If this is all subject to X Y and Z then a competent management would explain the who, the why and relevant timelines. Thats how it should be done. Then we have the MFC

It does beg the question, for mine, is what we have currently actually 'broken' ? Is it so dire it needs 'fixing' ? Or does someone just want it all warm.and fuzzy ? On first announcement that we might entertain Waverley I thought this might be a resoundingly good idea , as an interim 'solution'. But upon more reflection I just don't see how we're particularly any better off. Got me flummoxed to be honest. If only interim until a possible 'Caulfield ' what ( again) is the real benefit ? If there's no Caulfield then we could be selling ourselves a prime position up Schitts Creek.

I am intrigued as to what, if any, is advantageous to using Waverley ( ostensibly) in any interim. 🤔🤷

Bugger

Then you will remember the roar when the scoreboard showed the Roy's had gone down. Im not thinking well end up in the 8 but we could. Reckon we'll knock on the 'traditional' door at 9th. Had forgotten about the silly new finals 🙄🥴

I agree re depth. Neither imo were leaders

Not sure writing off is quite the intent but it might be the observation. Many have suggested you can't really play Steele and Viney at the same time. Imho.. that's the key. We went and got Steele. Wonder why ? 🤔 We knew Jack has a horror of a history with his injury...... and we went and got Steele. 2+2=

Mate....maaaaate... To date you've been brilliant but this is sublime.. You just juxtaposed two of my great loves... The Dees...and Queen !! ❤️ Let it be known...yes we will we will Rock You... Buddy playing on the street ...or the wing... will make a big noise .. Go Dees