Wrecker45

I have personally had a terrible year. Bring on 2021. Let's move on.

6 hours ago, kev martin said:

What myths and memories are made of.

I remember the longest goal I saw as a youngster, it was a drop kick from the wing, sailing high and going straight through the middle.

 1968, a Minyip (Wimmera district) player, all were in awe. 

It was the talk of the town that week.

Longer than Jayden Hunts?

We were masacred by pre-season injuries in 2019. 

We were flying into the finals in 2020 until Cairns. The Demonland podcast gave a good explanation for our first loss there.

I'll back Goodwin this year.

Woey to Farmer. With Yze coaching.

33 Kobe Farmer

Kobe Farmer to kick the winning goal in the GF. I'll dodge the point system if that comes home.

58 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Why are we still awaiting the proof P2J? So far the only recounts that have occurred, increased the Dems lead, did they not? It must be getting very lonely in that echo chamber; RUOK?

There is no evidence because the scrutiniers were booted out. Things are hard to prove without whitnesses

The closest thing is the anomities but given Covid it impossible to prove.

 When Trump won Florida it looked very Likely he would win. Then other key states stopped letting scrutiniers in over night and the vote magically swing out of all proportion to Biden.

What happened to Cuthbertson?

I remember watching him in the reserves and thinking he was going to be a superstar.

On 12/11/2020 at 11:36 AM, Better days ahead said:

Yeah but sydney and Freo had to contend with the same conditions. They adapted better. 

And if i remember correctly Sydney played the wind so much more intelligently than we did. They flooded the defense against the breeze making it difficult for us to take marks whereas as with the wind they were making pin point I50 entries setting up easy set shots. Measured approach v chaos. Brains v stupidity.

When you base your game plan around, stoppages, winning contested footy , bombing in long to the forwards it doesn't work when you get taken away from usual footy grounds when there is a hurricane going.

It also doesn't help picking Pruess to play in those conditions either 

2 hours ago, bingers said:

I wonder what Alan Scott thinks of this appointment

He would probably choke himself.

On 12/10/2020 at 11:40 AM, jnrmac said:

Not at Melbourne....

I asked Balme personally why he has won a premiership at every other club he has been too and he said we didn't have enough patience 

20 minutes ago, dieter said:

I'm including all of the 'Colonial' Escapades of the West. Um, tally up the victims of their weapons of mass destruction before we even reached the end of the 19th Century. Then we had two -so-called World wars indulged in mainly by Western/'Christian' powers when weapons of mass destruction reigned.

The we had the unnecessary use of Atomic bombs in Japan- once again, the WEST.

Since then, the US has made horrific war in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Granada, Somalia, it raped Libya, attempted to rape Syria, destroyed Iraq by using one of the biggest lies in history, and is still raping Afghanistan. If Netanyahu had his way, it would have raped Iran by now as well.

Between you and me, Grr-owl, I don' t trust the so-called West. It lies, time, and time, and time again. For example, you are no doubt aware of the pretext for invading Afghanistan, aren't you? Come on, you remember, it was to capture Bin Laden...

Now, give me, please the tally of deaths caused by the ones you claim can't be trusted with weapons of Mass Destruction?

By the way, have you ever experienced the horror of War? Has anyone ever bombed your town or your city?

 

 

Yeah my city gets bombed all the time. It's called Melbourne. It happens most weeks 

22 hours ago, Grr-owl said:

Peace in the Middle East is more complicated than it appears, and it appears very complicated. I live in the Sunni Arab ME and am writing out of personal experience only.

People were dismayed by the OBM administration doing the deal with Iran. Here, you don't bring your enemies closer, you obliterate them. Iran is the enemy. "They want their empire back," so it is sometimes said to me.

But they're not the only enemy. Where else in the world would you get students writing essays about how great Hitler was because 1. He built great roads, and 2. killed a lot of Jews? However, the announcement of the Abraham Accords was greeted with utter silence. There are two reasons for this: 1. Fear, and 2. They realize there is an advantage in being close to Israel. One is access to the Al Aqsa Mosque; another, the tech (which they already buy and use); and the third is that Israel hates Iran and have the nukes to deter them, though simultaneously recognizing the nukes will not deter Iran, once Iran gets their nukes, which they are eventually sure to do.

The key to the deal, however, is the sale of F-45's. This give people here first-strike capability across the region, including against Israel if or when the accords fail.

So, it's a matter of priorities. Obliterate, absolutely. But obliterate your major enemy first. The next can wait.

According to Henry Kissinger the world seems to be carving itself into four regions set against each other in a kind of cold war. The war is well underway in cyberspace, as Aussies should by now be well aware, and that Americans should understand as Russian interference in elections and Chinese hacking of, well, every good idea they can get their hands on. Iran is well up there now and North Korea a significant but bit-player. See Nina Schick for info on all that. So astonishingly smart, and so simple: divide and conquer using our strengths against us. It's the Art of War, martial arts 101.

Anyway, Kissinger says there are four scenarios that are the most likely catalysts for a large-scale conflagration. I gather he meant a conventional conflagration, but a cyber-war may be more likely, hard to say:

1. A deterioration in US-Chinese relations, whereby they tumble into the Thucydides Trap.

2. A breakdown of relations between Russia and the West, based on mutual incomprehension and made possible by:

3. A collapse of European hard power, due to the inability of modern European leaders to accept that diplomacy without the credible threat of force is just hot air; and/or

4. An escalation in the Middle East due to the Obama administration"s readiness in the eyes of the Arab states and Israel to hand hegemony in the region to a still revolutionary Iran.

Has the election of Biden made any of these less likely?

 

Thank you for writing something well thought out.

I despise Hitler but if my daughter wrote something factually correct about him I would encourage her. Not that would btw.

How is it that 1 person's testimony can lead to a Trump impeachment trial?

1 person's testimony could lead to George Pell's trial.

There are over 1,000 sworn avidavids on voter fraud. They are not being investigated properly. I can see it from here. Trump is a terribly bloke but he had been robbed.

2 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Trump and his allies have now lost over 50 post-election lawsuits: a staggeringly unsuccessful track record that reflects how flimsy - and often entirely confected - their complaints about election fraud and other supposed irregularities have been.

The only fraud here is Trump himself and, sad to say Wrecker,  you have been conned, taken for a ride and sucked right in by his bluster that is fuelled by an ego the size of Jupiter.  You can't show us the evidence of fraud because there is none.

I'm having as little success posting on Demonland as Trump's legal team are having in the US.

One in a dees tie the other in a Collingwood one.

3 hours ago, dieter said:

The only people who talk about fraud are Trump - who started talking about it years ago - and his deluded parrots. As I have stated time and time again, you cannot simply cry fraud and then not provide one skerrick of credible evidence. You might wish to dwell on that, especially in the light of the most recent total rejection of the hocus pocus Texan attempt, where, once again, nine Republican leaning judges told Trump to basically put up or just shut up.

So no fraud or just a little bit? I'm interested in your opinion 

4 minutes ago, dieter said:

Where is the evidence????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Dieter my grate mate will you concede any fraud or is all just a conspiracy to you?

2 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

No, it's not plausible to have different states coordinating with each other, as you stated, because they are separate elections. It's not like Australia's, where the AEC runs the whole federal election, but rather it's about individual states running their own elections, then sending their college delegates to a final election to vote in the president (which is called the electoral college).

As a result, a legal fight to overturn multiple state elections requires separate legal wine in each state, likely on very different grounds. They're independent events. 

So if the likelihood of overturning a state result is 5% (likely very generous), then the likelihood off overturning two states is 5% x 5% = 0.25%. The likelihood of overturning the 4 different states the GOP needs is 0.05^4 = 0.00000625 = 0.000625%

Two things are implausible:

1- Multiple states coordinating with each other on election night as they run entirely separate elections.

2- Overturning the results in multiple states, as is needed to change the presidential election result.

It's actually more likely of widespread fraud than a few dead people "voting"

Time Magazine which racistly named Obama person of the year has just named joint persons of the year Biden and Harris.

Nevermind Trump has started getting peace in the middle east and never instigated a war 

What is the bet no Republican president ever wins it? You only have to be elected as a Democrat though. 

I'm surprised Hillary never won for trying to break the glass ceiling.

We screwed up badly with Junior. It's more important to build a culture than try for a short term fix.

He stood by us when he could easily have left for more money.

Who kicked the crucial goal against Geelong in the 2018 elimination final? 

He is heart and souls Melbourne.

5 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

It's actually about 50 different democratic processes. A different one in each state.

Any argument you have that has states coordinating with each other is flawed from the outset, as a result. That's why overturning the results in one state is plausible, but multiple states is not.

Just re-read what you have written. 

There are 50 states with different democratic processes but only one state could plausibly be overturned?

9 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

Very quiet in here.  What happened to that Saty fella?

He might have a flat tyre.

14 hours ago, mauriesy said:

He increased his non-zero vote differential. Or did he decrease his negative vote? Maybe he increased his non-zero difference? Or was it a non-quadrillion difference?

Whatever it was, he lost by 7 million votes.

He lost by 6 million votes in total at the previous election but under the electoral college system won.

It comes down to the swing states. He won Florida and Ohio which nobody has ever done without going on be the president.

Once the Florida victory was determined 17 states shut down counting. But magically turned the result around when they started again.

This isn't about Trump who is flawed person, it's about correct democratic process.