layzie

From the footage I've watched he looks a bit like a stat sheet forward and mainly about the marks, kicks, goals. That's not a bad thing if you're very good at it but it's what these types of players do when they are out of a contest that matters. Can they get it to ground? Flick it onto a small forward? Make good second efforts and tackle hard? Or do they check out? It's something that bothers me a bit with Max King. If we're going for a KPF I'd love a work rate team oriented one.

I don't think West Coast's mature age additions are as good as they think they are.

This will take all my skills.. Bengals, Eagles, Ravens

Really need to borrow your Hilux

Sounds like Ivan Soldo has stuffed it up terribly

Culture problems

With the Stringer deal off this is probably even less likely.

Yeah remember when he would be running with the ball then as he kicked he'd raise the ball up before dropping it like some kid at Auskick? Was not a sight for sore eyes. Some team will reap the benefits with Smillie if they put he resources into him.

Yeah interesting. It is true though, all key backs at youth level seem to be interceptors and rarely your classic 1 v 1 full back. Almost seems like something they have to perfect once they get into the AFL system.

Must be a Francophile kind of day today. My director is in France currently but he's had some kind of food poisoning and isn't too well. I've getting morning emails with nothing but French pleasantries. Usually a no nonsense no faff kind of guy so he's definitely lost the plot.

I always like your thinking DeeZone but I'd really hate it if this was just a nepotism pick. If he does have the raw materials that could be worked with and evenually fashioned into a decent AFL player then by all means we should take the punt but it's sounding like some of our NGA products might be worthy consideration for the rookie spot as well.

I like it, good philosophy THBT.

Come on guys. 3 hours left, we need to stick together.

Donald Duck? Yeah he's pretty good.

Ok I'm going to put this out once and only once because I don't have much if any experience of watching him. Is the kid any good? Can he actually make it in the AFL? I feel like there's a section of this place that just wants to see a team full of father/sons for the romanticism of it.

It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under..

I can see Port getting him

If Tommo does end up going would it increase the chances of going for someone like Tauru in the draft? Looking pretty thin back there.

Yep me too. Spent quite a bit of time off here this year, been on more lately because of trade period but it hasn't been the most pleasant place. Early in the year I'd replaced a lot of my time on here with regular book reading but the last one I was on got boring so that's probably another reason I'm on more lately.

Haha appreciate that, admittedly also the voice of insanity sometimes.

If nothing else, at least you're being transparent and citing endorsements of the working culture at MFC HQ. It may not show fully the culture of our playing group and football department but it does count for something and can be taken into account. There's a lot of opinions flying around at the moment but I think we need to keep this as a civil discussion.

Fair enough, I see your point.

Yeah I haven't seen enough of his field kicking either but there's no doubt he's the 'extractor' of this draft. If a club is looking for a player to give you 30 touches a week to take to the bank it's him. His agility is pretty much elite as well, able to evade tackles and make guys miss. I can see this being pretty useful the way the game is at the moment.

Correct, but isn't it also possible to have culture issues while having success? There wouldn't be many who thought the 2006 West Coast side didn't have issues. Cultural issues can be in the eye of the beholder as it's more 'the way we do things round here' than a set guide handed out to every club. Unfortunately there have been a lot of these events now, plenty of media beat ups but a lot of factual incidents too and on balance people are probably right to be questioning our culture. No culture is perfect though either, Simon Goodwin has said that it is an ongoing process. However I do think at some point we need to realise that not everything written about us is a scripted conspiracy. We need to improve.

Well, he played 24 games last year so the club saw something in him. Or they were lying.