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    10 minutes ago, deanox said:

    Oliver got 30 touches round 1, and 35 (and 3 Brownlow votes) in round 2.

    No one at VFL was going to outperform Oliver this year.

    Ā 

    Whether he had "served" his penalty is a different story, but on performance he may not have been the Oliver of old but he was better than any of our depth would have been.

    But Oliver needed time at Casey to get fit and to show some discipline,

    regardless of what Casey had on their listĀ 

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    2 minutes ago, RedFox said:

    Agree - he clearly wasn't anywhere near the level of fitness required for obvious reasons. Similarly, our midfield was so badly depleted that even at half fitness he was a more viable ball winner than anybody playing in the twos. In hindsight he should have been put on ice as soon as his hand injury was preventing him from performing the fundamentals.

    Clarry needs to be pushed hard this offseason.
    He needs to concentrate on one thing. Getting 100% the fittest he has ever been, I donā€™t want to hear any excuses. I want to see him pushing the limits.
    We need to see results next yearā€¦

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    10 minutes ago, RedFox said:

    From the outside looking in all I saw from Clayton this season was that of somebody who was doing all the team things. He was getting around all of his teammates on the park, revelling in celebrating milestones, re-signings, playing a key role in the Kozzy doco. If he is a nightmare to work with, it certainly didn't appear that way on game day or in the media content put out by the club.

    Even as recently in his podcast interview he spoke pretty well and seemed energised to attack this pre-season. Our skipper on radio this morning says he loves him as a player and even more as a person.

    But at no stage was he fit enough to play at the elite level, so he is actually letting the team down, and Clarry must take some responsibility for that, as do the MFC. it was ludicrous to play him in the front half of the ā€˜24 SeasonĀ 

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    18 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

    I think this is harsh. By the sounds of it heā€™s had issues all the way through but up until 2022 it seems like he was managing pretty well (as shown by 4 B&Fs, 2 coaches, flag etc).

    The breakup and the hammy seem to have derailed him to the point where itā€™s not the same trade off anymore, ability v drama may be tolerable if the ability is elite but if the output is getting lower and the drama is getting higher then there comes a point where itā€™s not worth it.

    Contract was too long in hindsight but I can only imagine the meltdowns on here if heā€™d asked for a trade because we only offered him 4 or 5 years instead.

    The ā€œ12 week Hammyā€ injury was when things went into hyperspace and the video started to appear. His Hammyā€™s were okā€¦.

    5 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

    My concern with this is, if he chooses not to get fit and firing, has more off field troubles and/or holds the club in contempt resulting in him making no effort ( even begin happy to front up weekly at Casey) would MFC still be required to PAY HIS FULL SALARY?

    If so, player contacts are clearly too heavily stacked in the players favour to the point of being farcical.

    I get your point, but i will be Filthy if Jeeelong get another easy trade

    10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

    Or recoup his trade value so we don't get screwed in a possible trade next year.

    But we wouldnā€™t get anywhere near recouping his trade value right nowā€¦

    He needs to get himself fit and fiiring

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    4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    not only did he cause this but he looks like coming out of this a real winner. gets to keep his bag of gold with a 6 year contract, playing for a team in the finals window. no downside.

    meanwhile he leaves behind a trainwreck of people and the club. how many people who tried (vainly) to help, will lose their jobs over this and what a let down for his team-mates, spnsors and club supporters.

    just grates me that he comes through this totally unscathed and unpenalised

    Thatā€™s exactly why we should keep him on the list and make him earn the contract he signedā€¦

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    Personally i think The MFC was too nice to Clarry last Summer, i donā€™t blame them for it, but it wasnā€™t what Clarry needed.Ā 
    He should have been given Tough Love, ā€œGet yourself Superfit & then you will be considered for selectionā€ should have played at least 10 games at Casey.Ā 
    itā€™s no wonder other listed players have been annoyed at what transpired.Ā 
    Clarry needs to grow upā€¦.

    he caused all thisā€¦.

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    31 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    More smoke is appearing it seems.Ā 
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    Edmund: ā€œItā€™s understood Oliverā€™s recent behaviour has again tested the patience of some teammates, while the club has been disappointed in some things he has not committed to.ā€

    I have spoken to one player (a few months ago) who has never really gotten over the events of last year. He suggested at least some of the other players were still dirty about tthe ā€˜preferentialā€™ treatment he got ie if they did the same they wouldā€™ve been booted out the door.

    Now we are getting closer to the truth.Ā 
    2 Players who came from Footscray have been shown the door not long agoā€¦

    Is Oliver holding up his end of the deal?

    People can bash Pert being involved over all this, but i ask WHY is Oliver being talked about. Why is Pert on the phone?

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    8 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

    A good club might look at Oliver's issues last year and see Tassie coming in and press the trigger and try and trade one or two high calibre players after maximising their value.

    A good club would have kept Clarry's issues as quiet as humanly possible and maximise that trade value then.

    A good club would have sensed Petracca's issues and got out in front of the story as soon as it was said he would 'leave tomorrow if he could'.

    Instead MFC leaked most of Clarry's issues themselves, did everything they could to reduce his trade value, and is now shopping him after he had his worst ever season due to lack of preseason.

    MFC admitted to making minimal effort to stay in touch with Petracca's family after his injury to actually support Petracca's position that the club was the problem rather than he.Ā 

    MFC potentially leaked stories about Petracca to make him sound like a primadonna and in doing so lowered his value also.Ā 

    I heard tonight Kozzie is also considering his options.Ā 

    Laughable.Ā 

    It was pretty hard to keep everything quiet last year, from a Club POV as everything was posted on instagram and Tik Tokā€¦Ā 

    There is another side to this, maybe just maybe, Oliver hasnā€™t held up his end of a Ā bargain.Ā 
    We donā€™t know enough of the internal day to day situation.Ā 
    But if Pert is having discussions, then itā€™s difficult to believe Clarry has been squeaky cleanĀ 

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    2 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

    If true itā€™s a kick in the guts to the club who has supported hi during his mental health issues .. if true players Ā have too power, if true I question his character as his biting hand thatā€™s fed him & supported him.. if true in hindsight club should have made him Ā play at Casey l this year until he earned Ā the right to play senior footy .. if true Iā€™m disgusted by himĀ 

    Considering what went on 12 months ago, Player 13 should have played 8-10 games at Casey, to earn his spot back. I was very disappointed this didnā€™t happenĀ 

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    19 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

    Yes, we are appalling in all facets of the game compared to them, as was demonstrated when they absolutely annihilated us at the Gabba by 5 points.

    Donā€™t compare Home & Away Games to September Grand Finalsā€¦

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    15 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    Ummh Brody was actually their best player, not that that is saying a lot. Won the hit outs and at 3 quarter time he was leading the Swans for disposals. He did his job. As did Jordan.Ā 

    I didnā€™t think Brodie was that bad at all

    His Midfield around him were disgracefulĀ 

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