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How about Training that the Forward line spreads and a lead is made into space?

Is it that hard to execute? Seriously 

29 minutes ago, layzie said:

And the bit with Amon anticipating them winning that contest and leaving his man to create an option on the fat side of the back 50. It shows they are playing with confidence. 

Which we were doing in ‘21 with Gus and Lingers dominating the Wings

On 25/03/2025 at 07:26, Hellfire Dub said:

I said that for a number of reasons and I'll describe them here.   It's not a personal affront because I know you and others love Goody, but apart from the flag I don't think he's infallible and above reproach.  

 

1. Disconnect Between Training and Game Day.

Simon keeps saying we didn't play the way we trained. That’s a worrying admission. Either the players aren’t implementing his instructions, or the coaching isn’t working. Both are red flags.

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2. Lack of Tactical Response.

There’s been minimal in-game adjustment—like failing to respond to repeated marks by Comben or our centre clearance losses. If Max is under siege, coaches need to intervene. The lack of visible action on obvious problems must leave players feeling unsupported.

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3. Forward Connection & Scoring Issues

Our midfield-to-forward connection has been poor for a long time. We dominate territory but don’t convert, constantly bombing it in and hoping to lock it in. It’s like playing rugby in their 22 but never scoring tries. Meanwhile, we get cut open going the other way by interceptors running into space.

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4. Player Body Language & Usage.

Watch the players—Trac looked miserable on Sunday (and maybe unwell). Fritsch looks checked out. Petty seemed lost last year. Kozzy is a weapon we're not using effectively, and JVR hasn’t looked like he’s enjoying his footy. Even Max, our captain, looked exhausted again this week, and in games last year he was trying to carry the team.

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5. Player Departures & Rumours.

We’ve seen a steady stream of premiership players leave. Some may be unhappy. There are persistent rumours about others wanting out. It’s easy to cite homesickness or family to exit gracefully, but it still points to cultural cracks.

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6. Impact of Underperformance.

Losing corrodes morale. After the drama of last season, players probably just want to enjoy their football again. Playing dour, defensive, grinding football isn’t enjoyable—especially when we’re slipping behind the likes of North, Hawthorn, and even being embarrassed by West Coast or Freo.

I've played on teams where a coach could politely be described as deficient.  Often a good captain can partially compensate but still they can't see and decide or direct everything.  I think Simon's good at many aspects (morale, defence, interpersonal) but tactically and offensively I think he is deficient.  I think a number of the team believe that too and that must be demoralising.

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From the outside and for the reasons above, it looks like at least some players have a disconnect with the coach. 

I just want us to win flags, or at the  very least be proud and competitive.  Lately I'm getting more sympathy than abuse from friends and rival fans about the Dees and that's embarrassing.

I've held this opinion of SG since before 2021 so I would love him to turn around our fortunes but he's failed repeatedly and this season might get uglier. 

Based on all this I would prefer a change of coach.

Thanks for reading and debating this.  

Cannot argue any of that HD. That is basically the situation we are in….

5 hours ago, layzie said:

How good was it!

I'm not watching any footy shows at the moment but I did switch to 360 to catch a glimpse of this, brilliant analysis.

I also love the fact that two players fresh off the bus from other clubs, Barass and Battle, have played a couple of games together and already display the synergy that can take a few years to develop. In my book that's not only good footy IQ but exceptionally good coaching. 

Exactly right 2 new players doing exactly what they should be doing. 
Over 3 years our forward Line has been a shambles 

You cannot describe it any other way

90% of that has to be on the Coaching 

1 hour ago, BDA said:

I don’t love my colleagues, don’t want to love them and don’t need to love them to do my job properly.

i don’t dislike any of my colleagues, i actually quite like some of them but talking of love in a work environment situation is just cringe

Don Scott and Leigh Matthews did not speak to each other for years at Hawthorn 

Didn’t stop them winning multiple Premierships together. 
 

Just do your F$&@ job to the best of your ability….

2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Stretching a long bow there Dazzle your views on Simon are very heavily slanted against him, no one outside the FD know what shenanigans went on late ‘23 - early ‘24.

Wrong

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Give me this kind of footy analysis everyday of the week.

 

Hahahaha!!! The Coffee Cups behind Simmo. What a classic. 
 

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

I'll post the full video if and when it becomes available.

I don’t think Bailey Fritsch has put his boots on yet….

12 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Who cares about the media. Win games of footy and they will quickly get off our back.

That’s the bottom line. If we continue lose badly, playing a gameplan that is boring and ineffectual we will be attacked 

Win games with strong performances, the attack dogs will go somewhere else 

Look at this absolute drivel… The Media are now the stars of The Media 

Tom Morris & Sam McLure are both total Boat anchors and make show unwatchable 

Bevo should have given a quick clip around the ears

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16SVYRQkxH/?mibextid=wwXIfr

When did we last kick into the Forward line to a leading Forward coming out of the Goal Square??

It’s a basic fundamental of the game…

35 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Agree.

I think he was trying to stand up for his Captain, who always gives his all, but had a bad day.

It was probably an off the cuff remark and he wasn't specific, just saying Max deserved a bit of slack.

It's not a hanging offence.

 

Should have said nothing at all. 
“Max had a Bad day” which is the truth 

Kane Cornes would have instantly become moist hearing that Presser. Absolutely no need for it 

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

 

John Kennedy the coach said there were only 3 phases of the game: you have the ball, your opponents have the ball or the ball is in dispute. We are ok when the ball is on dispute. We have focused on the other team having the ball but when we have it we are clueless

It is coaching coaching coaching. And player selection integrity

 

This Quote stands the test of time very well. It is still the core of the Modern Game

Using the ball when we have it is something i don’t think our Coach fully understands or gives enough credit to 

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

North probably played their best game for years (today) ... credit to them

But we didn't turn up and to be quite frank, the players should hand back whatever money they got paid for today's insipid performance

I agree with that, but why was the whole team disinterested? If it was 1-2 players then that is on them.

But when it’s the majority of the team, from the first bounce, it’s got to be on the Coach as well

The Gameplan they have been given is not working, and it looked like the players have had enough 

6 minutes ago, Macca said:

Now we're talking

As previously stated, do not let the players off the hook

My reaction in the last quarter was all on the players, not the coach

We surrendered meekly and a number of non-efforts were embarrassing

Fish rots at the Head. If the players don’t care, it must ultimately be on the Head Coach 

North have won 10 games in 3 years and we couldn’t be bothered 

Goodwin is on thin ice

Great idea. Let’s stack the backline and kick 4 goals a game…

11 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well, I beg to differ, more so on how the players went about it

Heads were bowed in the 2nd half and we haven't seen that for an age

Half-hearted chasing along with an abundance of missed tackles.  The players let themselves down today

And yes, if the message isn't getting through then that's a huge issue but today's loss is not all on Goodwin

A new coach would need the rest of the season and the off-season to swing things around anyway.  There'd be no instant results ... footy has changed and to learn a whole new game plan takes time (as we're finding out)

I wouldn’t expect a new Coach to salvage this year if current trends continue.
But if we are not winning games by mid season there is no point wasting the rest of this year. This is Goodwin’s 11th season at the Club. He should have honed his skills by now. 
As i said, the whole team were not switched on at the first bounce, that is definitely on the Head Coach. It is also on the Leadership group out in the middle, but they were also disinterested 

1 minute ago, Macca said:

It's got nothing to do with me, SWYL

My evaluation is based on what I believe the club will do with regards to Goodwin's contract

It would have to be a complete disaster and even then, I don't believe the club would act until  seasons end anyway

Another factor would be the pay-out figure and whether the club would be prepared to pay out a hefty amount

The other big factor are the players themselves ... you made the call that they 'gave up' today

So if that is the case, that's on the players, not the coach.  Should we sack all the players who gave up?  

The players weren’t switched on from the first bounce as a team. Once again we kicked a paltry score, meanwhile the backline got thrashed 

At no stage did we take control of the game, even though we won center clearances, this scenario happened all through last year.
So whatever messages the Coach is giving the players it’s not adhered too. 
It’s not like today was an outlier 

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Realistically, we are not going to sack Goodwin in season.  But if we fall right away, the end of the season could see the end for Simon

But we'd have to fall right away (7 wins or less)

Right now, we don't have the players with the skills to play the new type of offense that we are seeing from a number of clubs

However, if we add May,  Melk, Kozzie,  Kolt,  Windsor,  McVee,  Johnson & Langford (he should have played today) we'll be a lot more competitive at least

Add those 8 and take out Spargo,  Woey,  Turner,  Jefferson,  Sharp,  Howes and take your pick on 2 more and we're a much better team

But back to our offense ... it stinks

And Goodwin & Chaplin are responsible 

Our method of advancing the ball is treacle-slow and we avoid the corridor like the plague.  And our skills on offense are bog-average

Then there's the actual forward line which is right now, bereft of talent

But all of the above can improve with an injection of talent (especially up forward) 

The other thing that stood out today is our lack of teamwork and the lack of selfless acts

Early doors but it's going to take a big turnaround.  It's just as well we've got 5 winnable games in our next 6 games (Suns, Bombers, Freo, Tigers & Eagles) 

Hard to see us beating Geelong at Geelong in round 4 but we're going to have to win at least 3 of the other 5 to keep the wolves at bay

After round 8, as you would all be aware, our fixture gets tough

So realistically you are happy to be in a holding pattern all year??

If the connection between Coach, gameplan and players is not working by mid season then Goodwin has to go.

There is no reason why we shouldn’t have the players with skill to play a modern gameplan, every other club this year so far has looked way faster and committed than us in moving the ball. This is not a new problem for us, we have all seen it on repeat 
 

Bottom line is Goodwin cannot get the Forward line functioning. 
If the players cannot put a plan into action, then that still comes back to the Coach 

9 Goals in a Covered Roof Stadium is [censored]

Meanwhile North went Rampant 

Goodwin has to be put under serious pressure. I don’t care if it’s Round 2, that looked like a player revolt. Nobody was interested…

3 years our Forward line has not functioned properly 

3 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

Not in person 

Irrelevant 

The result would have been a different score at the ‘G. We may have been beaten. 
Quite happy with the ‘21 smashing thankyou

But it was 4 years ago, and we are regressing since then

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We still haven't addressed our forward entries, or if we have it hasn't translated to GameDay. Continually bombing it on Turner's head was driving me berserk.

3 years and still waiting….

A very strange Press Conference….

1 minute ago, BW511 said:

Today was a classic example of one team wanting to win more - North were running harder, tackling harder (sticking them) and more disciplined.

They didn’t exactly shoot the lights out with any part of the game but they came  with a much larger appetite for the battle

And that is on the Coach(s)

We may have been down on some personel, but that doesn’t excuse efforts 

The effort wasn’t there for 4 quarters all over the ground 

21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sack Goodwin. 

I tolerated last year but today has done it for me.. officially off him now.

Since 2021 we've gotten worse as each year goes by. The lives dovey fake persona this off season was just a cover up for the rot that still exist within the footy club.

Certainly looks that way. The players switched off. That is unacceptable, however you look at it. 
These efforts will cost the Club Membership $$$’s 

why should supporters care if the players don’t. 9 goals under a roof…

Our forward line is putrid and has been for at least 2 years