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No, didn't mean trade week... Its just that criticisms can be made of Brock off-field, but i think they can be made of BG too.

Personally have some issues with Brad Green's profile as a captain and his lack of personality whenever he's done things in the media (ie. the footy show)

I know he tries, but i think he's not the type to make the club look attractive. He's more vanilla than anything.

its a petty criticism, i know.

I wouldn't take too much out of the "Footy Show" as far as personality goes. I would be more worried about how Brad talks to the team in a huddle. His selfless acts of courage on field speak Captain to me. Brock does the same, but not yet as much. Brad Green is the one player i believe who consistently held his own in 2008. The B & F order i find staggering-but its only my view.

Would be nice to get him.

Get back Davey, Rivers, McLean and Molooney, add the number 1 pick and Ryan O'Keefe.

Suddenly things look pretty good.

I havent written off season 2009 like most. I think we can make the Finals.

I agree, The players voted to start training early. Now Stynesy as prez with the Debt campaigns, new proven CEO coming home, i reckon the players would have felt pretty ordinary about the 2008 season. I think we shall see a vastly different team

2009 Finals, bring 'em on....This years finals were such a yawn!!

Hope he is not trying to get delisted and get next years wages

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...5-19742,00.html

I would have thought Nathan would be on his best behaviour with the club in order to be paid. So i am suprised. Being AWOL certainly won't help his bank balance..

Carroll Does not turn up to training

If He is contracted to the club for next year i would say that means he is a required player. All players were instructed to attend training this morning, By Carroll not showing up that would make it easier for the club to make that last year void i would guess. Interesting, i was sure he was going to roll up and

hoping he would have the attitude "I will show you" maybe i was dreaming.

it seems some of the saints fans rate him fairly highly and i also see nasher has paid a little visit to saintastional if u read the link

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48011

Saint supporters talking about soft Players!!! Ha that was a great read, as if they can talk. St.kilda was a retirement village for old hacks for years. Brad Green Soft. Pull the other one!! Clowns

I think you should send them one of these wristbands YM.

HaHa That is a total pisser!!! Off to visit Neville-"Who says crime doesn't pay, This place is nice"

Do you think Brock's actions on the field have not warranted it?

That brisbane game that ended his season he played through the injury and was critical I thought.

If you're going to talk about 'off-field issues' i think Green has some question marks too

by the way, saw Brock out on saturday and he looked like he was moving pretty well, looks like he'll be up & going for most of pre-season

I don't have a great problem with Brock being captain, in future years i think he will, but for this year i think Greeny should be the captain. I think he was our best player. What "Off Field" incidences are you talking about, not Trade week i hope. Thats just business. BTW i respect Brock for putting his hand in his pocket at the Debt Demolition.

I definately think green should be the captain. His actions on the Footy field warrant it. What happened over draft week is in the past. Remember all players are tradeable. Green didn't want to leave the MFC, he wanted a good deal. He stood his ground and got it. Move on Captain for sure...

He just merely confirmed it.

Only about six trades went through in total. One of those (Warnock was pre ordained).

Hardly any of them substantial.

Trade week is hugely overrated.

Some posters like this thread's author get carried away with their trade fantasies and have no iota of knowledge of the process nor what actually went on.

Totally agree RR. There was not much to trade for. Draft day will be our test. Why swap crap for crap. Warnock 400 k untested!!! We shall see. I believe we already have the better Warnock

and the tankers still have pick 6 .

That's such a great Quick Time you got there Telko, Made me laugh out loud at work. Cool

Instead of taking on a challenge of helping to rebuild a club that has won 8 games in 2 years, you took the easy option.

You are frontrunners of the highest order, and dont have the guts to accept a challenge.

We dont need mentally weak players at our footy club.

You are not men.

How Far under the Salary Cap are those Cheating Blues now? That's all i care about. Niether of those players are proven. We may already have the Best Warnock.

Prismalls knee buckled under his own weight. I didn't like the look of that long term, as i said yesterday i remember Steven Clark from Essendon who played four games and did his knee again against essendon! We still have all our picks guys. Chill its Beer Oclock!

I wouldn't worry too much. I really don't think there was much to trade for. We have our picks and PSD in place. Brent Prismall has a bung Knee, Okeefe a highly inflated price. We Didn't lose Green, & nobody knows how good or bad Warnock is. Definately not worth 400 k. Carlton may regret that one. So all in all i think MFC was quite wise. Remember if there is no interest in Bell or Carroll that's that. MFC can't give them away. Think toward the Future-we will improve.

Thats Good news-Welcome back Greeny. You shall be a fine teacher to our young players. Teach them well and you could still play Finals with them again.

Pick 35 for Prismall should do it I reckon.

I love the logic around here that once a player injures themselves they are forever injured and can never come back.

Pessimism amongst supporters doesn't make for a great club.

I still remember Steven Clark in the early nineties. Played what Four games before the knee went "Bang again" Never to play again. Prismall is damaged goods so a low draft pick should only be used.

Deep down i hope Green stays, i want him there to teach the young kids how to play. Green is selfless most of the time. He is not the greatest,but does go in hard. Pick 16 is selling him short in a way. But i am aware this is a top draft so..........

I wanna see wanna really fire up next year. He was the Bright Spark of 2008. With a good pre-season he could be anything. I hope wanna & Davey play together for years.

Couldn't agree more!

I am prepared to give him 2 more years to weave his magic. I don't think any coach would have achieved much in 2008

I say trade him, if he is tossing up his options why should we wait! We have gone to his asking of 3 years, we are offering him a fair price with even some teams probably not prepared to pay him what we would be. He is holding us hostage and i dont like it. He must be weighing up if to go to a contender knowing we may me down the bottom for a few years.

Very disappointing but i say move on.... People should be aware if Brad Green does not play for the dees next year it will NOT be the clubs fault for not trying but HIS decision to leave our club.

I disagree a little with you here Mousey, I think the Results in the B & F have really [censored] Greeny off,, & i Don't Blame him. Mclean 2nd after only 14 games. Brad Green was a Shining light For MFC this year and he wasn't even rated in the Leadership group at the start of 2008. Brad feels he got shafted particulairly as his contract penalized him for not getting a higher B & F Nomination. The Voting System in place Stinks.

Being competitive is obviously easier said than done. I don't expect us to better the win:loss ratio from next year, but I don't expect four 100+ point losses or whatever like this season. We're losing 4-5 veteran players (probably more) and adding younger players. We were inexperienced last season, and we'll be even more inexperienced next year.

We need to draft well and wisely and go with a strict youth policy. If that means pain next year, then so be it. I'd rather see no improvement next year, but substantial improvement from then on in, just so we can get our high draft picks used to playing AFL football. The last two seasons have been an aging process. We haven't been rebuilding, but rather getting rid of/fixing the mess that Neale "I stayed 5 years too long" Daniher left. Next season is officialy the beginning of the rebuilding phase. Don't expect much improvement onfield. That will come from 2010 onwards imho.

Melbourne needs to gain Respect next year on & off the field. I expect to see a little more improvement on the field than has been stated earlier on this thread, as a long "proper" pre-season is about to commence. with the 2 new teams being forced down our throats the MFC does not have years to grow & Nurture like the Hawks did. We must show improvement rather quickly. Remember that we are still without a Major sponsor & in these Dark Economic times ahead that will not be easy.

Act Now.

Hopefully 2009 will show Dean Bailey''s true coaching ability. Go Hard on them Bails. Get the very best out of every player. Footy is a Brutal sport.

Last year nobocy was fit over pre season (Well almost) 2009 i expect a large improvement. Sorry demand not expect.

I think the trading of Green would be a win/win for him and the MFC!

MFC is rebuilding and want draft picks for this so important draft. Green will get us a reasonable pick and give us that much more space in the salary cap.

Green is playing good football and could help a team in the window of contending for a premiership. Why at his age would'nt he want that? He could get a similiar contract we have offered and have that chance of a premiership before his career is out.

Thanks Greeny and best wishes! Would like to see you go to Port! Obviousley they think there Premiership window is still open.

But I predict a big play by Collingwood by the end of the week!

Nathan Brown Thought the same thing when he walked to the Tigers Didn't he. Think Carefully Brad Green. Things can turn around quickly. Think very Carefully about your future....

Brad Sewell. And please never mention this again, it makes me sick

Ferguson should have been Frog Marched out the door with a Melways page to Waverly. Brad Sewell in Red & Blue, Each Touch he got in the G.F made me drink another Beer!!! Jesus H. God Dancing Christ!!!!

Rumour doing the rounds that one of the first trades will be Sentana O'Hailpin will be sent to the dees for pick 51.

Irishmen!

i dont know too much about him other than his passion is indeed infectious and can not help but smile where he celebrates like he just won the lotto after slotting a goal from 5 metres out right infront haha

Is he a ruck or a defender?

Ofcourse this is just a rumour so dont kill me

Walk away from that deal MFC WALK AWAY!!!! NOW

Sounds like a good deal to me. Wheatley is a good honest player, but not a great one. He only looked good this year as the team was so Bad. Eight years is long enough.

I wish him well if he leaves.

Sorry WYL.

"Geeper" is the affectionate nickname Jimmy gave to one G Lyon.

So Garry & Viney had a falling out hey, [censored] The club is bigger than one man. I Hope stynesy or Schwabb can do something to help reconsile the situation. To regain or MCC affiliation & to regain Vineyin the space of 1-2 years would be brilliant