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Khan Haretuku from Frankston Dolphins?

198cm, 98kg key forward and kicked a few bags of goals in a forward line starved of opportunities. He turns 23 next month also so we wouldn't be waiting on a kid.

Also has the ability to pinch hot in the ruck if need be.

His first quarters are his best. He drops off after that.

Great for footy, especially great for the MFC. I would have been devastated had this hack come to Melboune. His success was a result of his 'line' coaches, which were finally premiership quality after his 11 years at the helm. M&M did Nothing!

Neeld is one of the main reasons Collin#$*d had success. Now we have him and I am delighted. He was not a part of the Collin@#$% disintegration.

I always said M&M was not woth a sh_t.

I am delighted that Geelong won the Flag.

It's amazing how people such as yourself can watch years of AFL football but have no clue about the game!!

A good effort really.

He will get drafted.

Nooooo

You should be on the board with your knowledge!!

He's more that 3rd tall type not KP.

I wouldnt be dismissing this rumour all that quickly people.

If I knew Melbourne was going to get Jaegar O'Meara for Scully I couldnt care less if he left.

Clearly the 2nd best 17 1/2 year old in the country with Stringer being the 3rd.

taken from the bigfooty phantom (early run)

16: Jackson Paine (Sandringham Dragons) 194cm, 87 kg.

Interesting tall with a lot going for him. He's got the height you want in a genuine kpp, and while he's not Jon Patton, he's already looking like developing a strong body. Hands good above his head, particularly one-out, is perfectly capable of ripping apart a weaker opponent once he gets on top. While I'm not sure about his raw pace, for such a big bloke he is very balanced and turns quickly - he lays a lot of tackles, and a kpf who can do that is like gold these days in the age of forward presses - too often the talls just lumber around helplessly and don't contribute much. Works hard, lots of 1%ers. He's also a surprisingly good crumber, from his own marking or from other people's. Very good bloke to have isolated one-out in the goalsquare while the rest of the defense stresses about keeping an eye on Watts. For all his size (and he'll be a monster when he fills out) in my book he's a smarts and finesse player rather than relentless runner who blows his opponents up or a pure strength/speed lead-mark-shoot type, and as such I think he and Watts will complement each other well.

The other string to his bow is his ability to play as a 'gorilla' defender. He was just exceptional there against VC in the pre-champs trial match, and I reckon this aspect of his game is really underestimated. With a bit of experience he could be a genuine dual-position kpp swingman, and there aren't all that many of them going around.

He will be lucky to get drafted even as a Rookie.

800k a season for Ward? I hope they kept a receipt. Geez, talk about over inflated player values. Kid is okay, but 800K??

He will be one of the elite midfielders in the competition in a few years.

You need to look to the future not just the present!!

Wells was pick 2

Meesen pick 8

Bowler pick 6

Thorp pick 2

Butcher pick 8

Why would you put Butcher on that list after his first two games? It makes you look stupid!!

If McGinnity knew his Mum then its not on. If he didnt then he can say what he likes as long as its not racist.

Stick and stones...

It would be great if we could. I'd first offer something like a compo pick + Morton first (you never know, it just might work). I wouldn't give the compo picks away willy nilly, though (if Scully goes, i think he will).

Having 3 first round picks in the 2012 "super draft" is mighty tantalising. Would it be worth throwing the kitchen sink (both compo picks) back at GWS for Patton, effectively making it a Scully for Patton trade. As they say, a quality tall is always more valuable than a quality small.

You have your head in the clouds if you think for a moment Patton wont be at GWS next season!!

For such a supposed 'elite kick', Strauss is a poor and lazy kick of the footy .

Stayed for another 10-15 minutes and Jack was getting better as the game went on. Oakleigh had reduced the lead a little by the time I left but the Rays looked the goods.

Just before I left, Jack took a great grab and centered it to FF for a nice mark and goal to the Chargers.

I believe this was his first game for Oakleigh and given he's a year younger than most, I'm happy.

He's kicking for goal needs work.

I've just left Etihad and just watched Jack Viney play in the opening match. Fair game tonight but still good enough to get into All Australian team based on previous games. At this stage smaller than his old man, built like him though and faster. Good crumber and gee he hits hard. Kicking ok. Missed an easy goal tonight.

Quality of game was appalling and the second game was worse. Wingard didn't play. Rogers,No 12 was SA captain. I left the game and was talking to a couple of Demonlanders at the game and we agreed - weakest championship in many years.

Did you and your fellow Demonlanders see every game or just the one?

Can the MFC trade Scully to GWS in the mini draft and pick up Jaegar O'Meara who would be a certain top 5 pick if he was eligible?

The "of" is redundant, as is the post.

Redundant like your lack of identification for sarcasm.

I wish we had of taken Naitanui.

People who are saying effort is the problem have no idea. Collingwood are playing like the Premiership side they are. This is a development year and I can see development from our players . . . so that one day we can be where Collingwood is at. Poor disposal has really cost us today, though.

You are Jaded!!

Jones dead wood????? He was one of our best and most consistent performers last year, was promoted to the leadership group on the back of that, was coming back tonight after a very serious back injury in the final round... a bit harsh I would think!!

He has a distinct lack of awareness and rarely looks like he has anytime at all when in possession of the footy.

He was promoted to the leadership group mainly because of his undeniable courage and work ethic.

What about Max Otten,be good if anything like his brother

190cm HBF type with a really nice short kicking game. Is forever working hard to run forward and create an option for a team mate, unfortunately the reason why he didnt get picked up in the National Draft is because he is an incredibly soft down hill skier.

..... Cameron would have loved playing for us the last 5 years in our forward line... "he is one of the best players below his knees in Victoria."

Plenty of fwds have made it in footy being "outside" players. Milne says hi for one.

Footy keeps evolving. The ability to run, kick and be hard at the contest is forever becoming more important to success. Forwards that can not offer a physical contest will become obsolute in time. Its not as if he is under developed physically(this is something to be taken into account when drafting rookies)

I stopped pass training on Monday, and a few of these guys where training. The one that impressed me the most was a miny Matt Bate, short red head bloke, worked his arse off alwasy at the front of the group and looked like a hard nut. Does any one know who that would be?

He doesnt play like a hard nut!!

I'd be happy if we can acquire Jackson Sketcher or Brad Harvey.

The former joint-winner of the TAC Cup league b&f and captain of sandringham.

Have you seen Jackson play?