Redleg

It is actually not a matter of saying the selections you made were ok by general concensus at the time, but rather to examine those selections, comparing them with the picks we had and what other clubs ended up with. In other words from the picks we had, have we drafted well. Have we drafted any champions? Have we drafted as many good players,as other clubs with worse picks have ended up with. On any analysis you would have to conclude that we have drafted poorly and worse than most clubs.

Correct.

I agree, especially if he goes on the VL. We are not burdened with experience and he is also a good clubman and leader. I didn't think his form was too bad either.

I also wish him luck, as if the treatment fails, his AFL career is probably over. He is a nice guy who gives his all.

Gee Barry, do you think that Powerade will turn my [censored] red.

Very sad to hear of Sug's passing. I had a bit to do with him at Melbourne and he was a great character. Loved his boys though he could give them heaps. You could hear his voice on the other side of the ground even during a match. My sincerest condolences to Marie and the family and friends. You will be missed mate.

I know I am only an armchair expert, but I am not alone when I say we have generally drafted poorly over the last few years.The media and most footy experts certainly agree. I am the first to admit I don't know how many times a boy farts after eating his breakfast, or whether he likes looking at girlie magazines, or whether he kisses his mother good night before bed or even if he says prayers before he sleeps. I certainly don't know how many short sprints a player can do before fainting, or what his reach is or whether he can play only inside or only outside or both, but maybe we are now over analyzing boys, to the extent we are dismissing good footballers. I don't go to all the TAC cup games, or even see every boy play live, but rather see a few of those games and others in you tube highlights. I read Demonland and learn a bit more about certain players. With that background, along I went to a draft function at the MFC, hosted by Chris Connolly a couple of years ago fairly confident in my mind that if still there at our pick 11 we would take Daniel Talia. During the function Chris told us we would not select him but rather Gysberts if there at pick 11. To put it mildly I was pretty shocked, but hey I wasn't the expert, who was I to argue. Today Gys is being spoken of by some on here as being tradeable and not having the right fitness or attitude and Talia is verging on AA selection having beaten many of the best forwards in the AFL. The next year at our first selection we took Lucas Cook who is yet to play a game, while many on here screamed for us to take Darling who looks a great player and has about 50 games up already. Cook is another being spoken about on here as in danger of being delisted. These two selections are but a couple of so many we seem to have got horribly wrong. Yes Cook may still make it as may Gys, but even if they do they are a mile behind the other two. Yes I know drafting is littered with mistakes, but we seem to have made far more than all the other clubs. Now I know drafting is not an exact science and many will say, look at the other clubs that also passed on these players, but that is not the point. The point is that we have had professionals in one of the most important positions in a football club and one would have to say overall, when looking at our recent drafting history, that we have failed miserably. We were told that we would fix up our midfield a few years ago and that we would now draft quick players with skill, who could play in the midfield. Feel free anyone to disagree with this next statement, "IMO we have the slowest and worst midfield in the AFL and the worst disposal of any club." How has that happened? It seems to me that we over analyze every potential draftee and thereby miss the best footballers. We have probably drafted some very nice lads however. We need to fix this problem right now, as if we don't, given our list and the opportunity we might get this year with high picks, we may be doomed to the bottom of the ladder for a very long time.

You are becoming quite sedate now Jaded. It took you 5 lines to suggest a violent solution this time.

That's very funny.

Nothing like seeing the big picture.

Beamer has been a loyal servant and a good clubman. That said, he now plays rugby. Get ball, tuck under arm, take two steps, get tackled, try to break tackle, fail and fall to ground, free kick to opposition. We have no room in our side for a rugby player. Sad but true. One other talent, constantly pointing out to team mates where to go. That talent is not highly sought in rugby players.

I won't argue with the boss, he would know.

I just think that if the AFL takes the tanking inquiry to a full hearing, they are going to create the biggest firestorm to engulf the code in decades. We will not take it lying down and that will mean other clubs will be brought into it and that will lead to forensic examinations of countless games and officials. The adverse publicity would be a disaster for the game.

Hopefully it just goes away and soon.

I see some interesting times ahead for us. Who do we trade, delist, go after, draft? Probably more interesting than this season.

Because it's the AFL.

Yes good post. It would have continued with "Goodsey and Kirky wouldn't have let that happen. They would have got Judy and Reidy to have a chat with him. Then he would have had a coffee with Jacky and Joshy and all would have worked out fine. They really are a rabble down at demonland. No culture and an irrelevant club. Isn't that right Mike?"

No I am pretty sure that is not right. They can leave the club after the ND and then go into the PSD and Rookie draft.

Agreed. Would suggest Neeld told him he was to be delisted and he may have asked if he could go home immediately.

Sheeds tanked his arse off today to get pick 1 and will continue in that vein next week. I can't see GWS in any way risking that pick 1 to nominate JV. They in fact will probably add to it by getting our pick 4 for an Under 17 player.

You have mistaken him for Moloney. He is our pointer.

Not that I give a rat's tossbag about him anymore, but I put at least 12 players ahead of him and I can't wait to see the explosion from those players, when their 2 year contracts are up.

If true that is very worrying.

Don't tell his family, they think he is a West Australian.

I have not got an answer to this question I raised earlier in the year. If anyone knows the answer please let me know. Can GWS take another player off us in the PSD if he is unsigned? In other words could they get into a player's ear and tell him not to sign with us and then take him in the PSD, even though they have already taken one uncontracted player. PS. It would be another disgrace if they could.