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Great report, I feel like I was there.This post shows one of the real benefits of Demonland.

See post 159.

Had a nice slice of banana cake at Lava in Balaclava.

Remind me, who does the fixture?

You are welcome. How are the spicy beef dishes going?

Starting to look that way. We may have a football team to support.

One paper reporting that is is a $5100 fine per day, for disobeying an interview directive.

You have an absolute right to your opinions, but this bit is totally wrong. Having spoken to OD and read most of his posts, the opposite is true. I agree he can be negative at times, but that is his right, just as it is yours, to express our views.

Yes, 3 players were caught in a group hug.

Someone on here said that our footy has gone from a sport to a business. Business is about money and sport is about fair competition. The AFL is no longer about sport and all about business. Pity for all of us that are football fans.

This is really sounding like Hird has so much dirt on Essendon, that he has them by the throat and they will do whatever he wants. Being paid while suspended and getting a 2 year contract extension, immediately after being suspended for his part in the doping scheme, lends support to this theory and is just disgraceful. For those doubters, Chip Le Grand said on 3AW that he has absolute proof that Hird is being paid by the club directly. They have not denied it and Hird's lawyers have basically admitted it. They say it is not specifically prohibited in writing. I know that several major donors to the Bombers have had enough and demanded that Hird never coach them again or they are out and so is their money. Essendon will no doubt pay out his 3 years left on the contract. It is just disgusting. This could be the price for his silence. Hird at the February Press conference said he took full responsibility and since then has taken none. It seems to many that the number 1 priority for Hird is Hird, the players and club come a long way behind him.

Busy man.

Who says they haven't? Also just because they have an important case, doesn't mean they can just get more investigators out of thin air for this project and then sack them when it is completed. That is not the way Government agencies work.

To be honest we don't have a clue at what stage they are at, but we do know their investigation is not complete. I would hazard a guess that the reason this is taking so long, is because they are under resourced and the investigation is complex, involving many athletes ( footballers ) and many witnesses. Also the fact that documents were either not kept or have been destroyed, means it is a slower and more complex process of investigation. Everyone needs to draw breath and wait for their findings.

13C Failure to comply with disclosure notice Failure to give information or produce documents in time (1) A person contravenes this subsection if: (a) the person is given a disclosure notice; and (b) the notice requires the person to: (i) give information; or (ii) produce documents or things; of a kind specified in the notice; and © the person fails to comply with the notice within the period specified in the notice. Civil penalty: 30 penalty units. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply if the person gives the CEO a statutory declaration stating that: (a) the person does not possess the information, document or thing; and (b) the person has taken all reasonable steps available to the person to obtain the information, document or thing and has been unable to obtain it. Note: A person bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in this subsection: see section 73R. Failure to attend interview (3) A person contravenes this subsection if: (a) the person is given a disclosure notice; and (b) the notice requires the person to attend an interview to answer questions; and © the person fails to comply with the notice. Civil penalty: 30 penalty units. Failure to answer questions (4) A person contravenes this subsection if: (a) the person is given a disclosure notice; and (b) the notice requires the person to attend an interview to answer questions; and © the person refuses or fails to answer a question. Civil penalty: 30 penalty units.

Thought so.

What about today?

OP looking a lot more interesting now.

You are joking aren't you. You don't see any problem with Hird being paid while suspended making the whole penalty meaningless. Maybe ask CC what he thought about not getting paid for a year when he put no one's health at risk.

Things hotting up in AFL land.

This thread is about the behaviour of Officials within the AFL, not about Essendon having a drug programme.

Yes, no more sandpaper for us.

Anything happen in the AFL today?

1 less member for starters.

I have this fundamental problem with the AFL/Essendon penalty, I just think it is a joke.For putting players health at risk, injecting players off campus and away from the club doctor, destroying and/or not keeping records of what was used and how often, which actually hinders the players in determining their risk factors, attacking the AFL disgracefully in the media, as well as litigating and denying wrongdoing, Essendon received only 4 times the monetary fine we got for tanking, 3 lost draft picks, elimination from a finals series which could later have been tainted by drug use and effect and the same supension period for one official Hird as for CC despite the complete difference in their crimes, ( tanking, as against the matters mentioned ). i would have thought the gravity of the offence deserved a minimum, for a wealthy club like the Bombers, of a $5m fine, finals elimination for 2013, no draft picks in rounds 1-4 for 3 years and a suspension of at least a couple of years for Hird. PS. I don't hate Essendon, that is reserved for the Visy Park mob. Maybe it is just my revulsion of people introducing other people to drugs coming to the fore.