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I strongly doubt that in this instance.

You don't know that. He may have been told his case is not strong but ignored the advice. He may be listening to the advice of only one lawyer for all we know and she might be living with him.

I do, but the fact that they have fought this all the way, ignored deals, cost ASADA time, money and even possibly reputation, goes against the mitigation argument. Also in the ASADA Act, the categories of penalty are spelt out clearly and lastly, this was not a one off incident, but rather a systematic course of prolonged/secretive conduct, not sanctioned by the club Doctor and instigated to give the team an advantage over the other teams ...

Great post. I will pass it on using Western Union Telegram service.

Time to get into the banana smoothies.

After my last meal there on a sunday night, kidnapping would be the only way to get me in there.

Possibly a combination of all three.

Can't disagree with that.

I think it is the right word. I feel pretty confident from what I have learned in this matter, that the players believed they were being given legal drugs. Does that exonerate them from punishment, no.

Actually, no they don't. They also do cases for free, which is rarely publicized.

Before we continue with this Lawyer bashing, can we just remember that it is the client who feels aggrieved, who seeks a Lawyer to appear for them, not the other way round. It is like bashing restaurants for kidnapping people and forcing them to eat their food. PS. For the few on Demonland who don't know, yes, I am a lawyer.

Settle down WJ.

Far too serious OD.

Just remember everyone we are talking about small consequences here only, the suspension of players who were misled about a drug program. They will still be paid and everyone would probably acknowledge that they weren't deliberately and knowingly taking banned drugs. That of course doesn't make them innocent under WADA. The real consequences are the possible health issues, that hopefully will not occur, to players and their future children. One can only hope that there are no such issues, or the sh-t will really hit the fan and then there will be something real to be upset about.

Pretty much on the mark. But more importantly, it seems from the threat, that the players are now expecting to be suspended. That is a quantum leap.

Wade Lees, who was a Casey player at the time , says hi.

I am pretty good with a spoon as well, unfortunately.

He didn't mention one for me did he?

I need to read your posts.

Judgment day for Hird. Would be shocked if he won, but probably not as shocked as the AFL and ASADA.

Congrats, you obviously did well in the Australia Day Honours list. They must have forgotten to mention that 3rd knighthood, after Prince Phillip's shocker.

That is what happens when "the boys light up".

Would it ruin the taste of my fish and chips, if I used it to wrap them up like the old days?

Have you seen how much I can pile on a fork?

Just more obstacles in my way.