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Are some other clubs bringing the game into disrepute? We have an independent body set up to assess the merits of clubs getting PP's. Several clubs have written letters and gone public, on trying to influence this body in it's deliberations. This IMO, is bringing the game into disrepute and I think it's time for some long and thorough investigations of this cartel of clubs.

A lot of players from other clubs seem to be on the move. Either delisted or seeking trades. There could be a good opportunity to pick up a handy player or two for little cost. Roos has been adept at this in the past.

I agree past drafting has been poor. Why do you get PP's? Answer, because you are uncompetitive. It is the fact that you are uncompetitve, not the reason for it, that is the reason for PP's. If you penalized sides that were uncompetitive, because decisions made led to that, it would be a nonsense. Nevertheless we are already penalized. We don't get friday games. That means less exposure. That means less revenue. That means we are a less attractive club to play for. That means we find it harder to entice player trades. That is a penalty. Interstate games and skilled stadium games, same thing, with added problems or losing more likely and less fans attend. There are many more of these factors that stop us being a top team. It is no excuse to say the popular games get the TV, because that is about money and not fairness. Therefore we are starting behind the eight ball every year and yet are just expected to be good. If other clubs don't want us to get a PP then fine, lets all have the exact same chance to be successful. I am sick of the biased crap coming from the mouths of the other club's leaders. It is pure garbage. No PP's fine, then equal AFL in every way and put money last and fairness first. Do you see that happening OD? Certainly not before hell freezes over. PS. Get me on TV or Radio with some Club Presidents and I will destroy them over this.

I am just stunned beyond belief, that there are Dees fans on Demonland advocating we shouldn't get a PP. I don't want to see the word " deserve" mentioned again. It has nothing to do with it. They should use the word " need" instead. Our last 7 years are worse than any club I can recall. We need a PP.

Apparently Neil Mitchell just tweeted he has heard he will stay. Hope we are both right.

Looking like Watts will stay.

Now we have the other 17 clubs all writing to the AFL apparently urging it not to give us the PP. Surely not GC and GWS in that group, considering what we gave up to let them in the AFL. So we have a rule, a body to decide and behind our backs the other clubs writing secretly to the AFL trying to influence them. This is real dirty business. Lets call for some extra tanking investigations and alterations to the fixture in a secret letter to the AFL.

I understand that but was just assisting your argument that ii is recruiting and not development that is responsible for our failures.

That was also my view on the development / recruiting issue. None have improved elsewhere.Beamer and Ricky were the best two this year and they didn't play better with their new clubs. It just reinforces my view that recruiting is the single most damning stuff up.

The recruiters of a few years ago.

What about banana juice.

Why are all the trading threads now appearing on the main board? Is Demonland being attacked by gremlins?

I Have bigger issues to worry about . My most disliked side is now still in the finals after being gifted a spot and falling in in their last game. Please Swans do the right thing.

Of course Stan Heal. How could I forget it was only 72 years ago.

Do you mean AFL and WAFL?

I would imagine that Gysberts will be delisted by North.

And so many times for a fairly long period.

There was an even simpler method. Pick the most popular selection on Demonland at each round and we would have several more AFL standard players on the list.

Speaking of racing, any chance I could get a double, Casey and Richmond.

Race 6 at Bendigo today number 3 is Stynes and number 4 is Jimmy's Better. Wish it were true.

Would be nice to see Casey win a final and enjoy a banana in recovery.

And then there was recruiting. Or as it could be called, "pin the tail on the donkey".

That is certainly strange. Now he will probably be delisted. Where is Clisby, is he injured?

We have only just begun, there are so many other topics to discuss on this thread. Has anyone discovered why we accepted Clisby's penalty so that he could play for Casey in the finals and now he is not.

Cats now in the Hawks side of the draw. One of them won't make it.