Redleg

A magnificent analysis of KC's post. Your calculator must be ready to explode.

Russell said that it is likely to be Port v Doggies in China, opening the season, the night before Tigers v Blues.

Prestia is clearly ours, as when interviewed after the game he said it was hot up there.

Oh no, we are going to have 10 pages arguing about what an A grade midfield is.

Disagree with the first sentence, but agree with the third and fourth..

I think that has not been the case this year, with the side being picked for the future. Players with poor form but future potential, have clearly got games ahead of players with good form and perhaps limited long future potential.

Do you like arguing for the sake of it? You say a player who butchers every second possession and can't stand his ground in a contest, is an average player. You win, I give up, you clearly don't want a sensible discussion.

Hopefully the first domino. Actually maybe the second after Viney.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Grimes plays this week and was BOG. Then plays well for the rest of the year and then says he is leaving, because of how he was treated.

I think one ex co captain will replace the other this week.

Implied, when describing a bloke who butchers every second possession and can't stand his ground in a contest. That is a rubbish player.

Don't worry about the "chairing off", it is a nothing matter. If they do, so be it if he is leaving and if they don't, who cares. This is about a bloke who has done his best for a putrid club over a number of years and who on form this year deserves a couple of games which incidentally would take him to 100 with us. I actually think he will go past the 100 with us by a few games and then leave.

We can agree on this post. It was more where you described him as rubbish, butchering every second possession and losing most contests, which just isn't true.

You said "If his skill level was higher, if he didn't butcher every second kick or get pushed off contests so easily at senior level then he would have hit this number a long time ago. He is dam lucky he got 98" He didn't butcher every second kick and didn't get pushed off contests so easily. He was not lucky to get 98 games, he earned them. His development was probably smashed by our putrid club. He was captain of Vic Metro and was then crucified by being appointed Co Captain of an AFL rabble, when too young for the role. That would have affected his game. I don't recall seeing him shirk contests, he was hard at the ball. He would make a clanger or two, but we have current players doing that as well. Ask Picket Fence. He has earned games on his form this year, but a clear policy of giving games to lesser performed younger players, who may have long term potential, has cost him games he has earned the right to play. He was in our best players for many of the 98 games he played. He is no champion, but lets not rewrite history, he is no dud either. To my mind he has been treated shabbily by the club and if I was him I would leave at the end of the season.

What position?

Who did you play for BTW?

Bit harsh, he was our main ruckman, not a follower forward and 113 goals is ok in that role. Sandilands at 211 cms and and 16 cms taller than White and who plays a lot forward, 241 games and 92 goals. Mumford 129 games and 44 goals. Max Gawn at 208cms and who plays forward a fair bit, especially early on, has 52 games and 30 goals. Goldstein 159 games and 80 goals.

Correct. That is the very thing that coaches have employed for 100 years, to get players to give of their best. You need to be emotionally invested to give everything, otherwise you just coast. Didn't come to play". Have we heard that before?

That is just plain wrong.

Jeff White was not A+ grade standard, gee, give me a few more of his type any day.

It may also mean that they find out what Prestia wants to do and if he says he is staying or going to another club, then they make a statement that he was not their real target, so they don't appear to have lost him.

I think you will find that Salem is one player who will not want to leave Victoria. We haven't seen the best of him yet due to illness and I can't see the club entertaining any notion of a trade for him. He will hopefully become our next Adem Yze.

The old Old Dee is back.

You are not alone.

We still have 3 days to go, for the big announcement of Jesse's re-signing with us, to be made, before the Crows game, as some on here predicted.