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Full credit to Stef Martin. It's a sad reflection on where we are at with Stef in 3rd place.
How Aaron Davey has managed 8 votes this year is astounding.
He was good in our two landslide wins.
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Agree, we have just left Base Camp for the trek up the mountain. But we've forgotten the toilet paper supplies and Davey noted this, so he has just quickly gone back to stock up for the trek ahead.
A good thing too cause I think we had a really dodgy vindaloo the night before we left.
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Mate, useful to get your facts right!
Newton isn't more youth. Bate isn't more youth. MacDonald isn't more youth. Rivers isn't more youth. Neither is Warnock. We probably had our oldest side out there that we have had for a very long time.
We weren't held back on the weekend by our youth. We were held back by injuries, lack of depth, poor leadership and some senior blokes who have been retained but cannot deliver and are not part of our future.
And yet were, on avg, 2 yrs younger, and 40 games less experienced than St Kilda. They ARE the facts
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Funny, he says everything yet nothing. What a joke bit of inflammatory journalism. Not that I'm going to come out and defend DB, but that is one of the worst-written articles I have seen in a long time.
This is the same bloke who wrote about Morton "languishing" in the reserves last week...
Quality stuff.
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Luke Hodge
Jonathan Brown
Chris Judd
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Yeah you're right, what were we thinking when we expected some improvement after 3 years of rebuilding...
Ok I'm wrong then, there will be no improvement or development to come out of our young group this year. Season over.
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*BUMP*
...and I would still be interested to know other thoughts....working a real treat ~!
No personal experience; I'm not sure about it from the varying reports...
Mick Malthouse made some interesting comments:
“I hate it. I think it’s degrading,” he said.
“It depends on each club, and I’m not for a moment saying the Bulldogs have got it right, wrong or indifferent because I don’t know their system. All I’m saying is when I first arrived at Collingwood, a certain young bloke who wasn’t mentally really strong was out in the middle and I let those groups go because there’s no use me joining them...and what I saw, to me, was appalling.
“Some will respond. They will stand up and they’ll be strong and they’ll come away thinking, ‘I can do this’. But it’s not going to make everyone strong. It’s going to make some players actually weaker. And for all intents and purposes you may well lose that player, totally. That’s not the system.”
According to the LT website the following clubs use their service:
Geelong Football Club
Western Bulldogs
Melbourne Football Club
Sydney Swans
Adelaide Crows
Hawthorn Football Club
Richmond Football Club
Essendon Football Club
I think Ray McLean has several books if you are interested HT!
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Excuses excuses excuses. That is football. Teams with substance rise above adversity
When did we become a team with substance?
Additional stats in the context of today's game...
Average Attributes
St Kilda Attribute Melbourne
186.7cm Height 186.4cm
85.9kg Weight 85.3kg
25yr 7mth Age 23yr 8mth
104.2 Games 61.1
Total Players By Games
St Kilda Games Melbourne
5 Less than 50 11
7 50 to 99 6
3 100 to 149 4
7 150 or more 1
Clearly it does not explain the lack of leadership and form from players like Davey, but to ignore them completely is irrational.
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Rename this thread - "Unrealistic expectations over".
Phew, that would be a relief.
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Echo that.
Our kids were good.
Gysberts is a B grade player right now, at 19.
He will be good...
And Watts is showing more and more.
Our kids are getting there.
It's the Daniher leftovers that are not doing much...
+1 what you said about what he said plus the bits you added.
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Joeboy, think you (and some others) need to watch the replay re: Rivers. Was good today amongst a sea of [censored].
sooo ditto. wtf
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6 - Stef Martin
5 - Jordan Gysberts
4 - Jared Rivers
3 - Jack Watts
2 - Clint Bartram
1 - Colin Sylvia
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Hurts me to say it, he shouldn't be out there on current form.
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Would that be Phil McCafferty's cousin? He used to knock about with Ben Doon.
That would be him!
Ben & Phil were inseparable.
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I kid you not, when my son was at state school one of his best mates was one Michael Hunt.
I believe Mike was an acquaintance of Phil McCrevis (they go way back)
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IMO any player at AFL level should understand what is required of them. If the club need to bring in a set of rules to further teach them what they should allready know then we're a LONG way away from being 1/2 decent
I think you'll find that this kind of concept exists at all the clubs.
The question (as HT & dc have correctly identified) is: how can the message be most successfully ingrained within the group to create the resolute "culture" that is required.
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Does anyone know what number he'll have on his back? The MFC website doesn't have him (and the other rookies) on the list of players.
Listed as 50
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Hahaha great comment Rogue.
Not sure if serious, but I'm not sure that it matters - still made me laugh.
In regards to upgrading Evans permanently for next year, it is becoming tight with only Newton and MacDonald players I see as close to the chop.
Although, none of the current rules may matter, as my understanding is that the Players Association is pushing for the abolishment of the rookie list, with clubs just having that many extra senior spots. The pay for the rookies is seen as unfairly low.
The idea is to have the one national draft and it just goes longer, with each team getting more picks.
Can't remember where I read or heard it, but that's my recollection.
That's right Artie.
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yeah agree, pretty pathetic and not original
sometimes the little naughty boy in me slips out
Not at all Daisy, right up my alley - keep 'em coming
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or Hunt
Juvenile but funny.
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And also man didnt actually walk on the moon - it was created in a studio in Hollywood
And 7/11 was perpetrated by zionists as there were phone calls to every Jewish person who worked in the twin towers telling them not to go to work. Not one Jewish person died in the towers collapse.
And Elvis Presley is not really dead but living on a tropical Island with Michael Jackson as his toyboy
Your point ?
Ahhh the old convenience store conspiracy
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Strange. The above post quoted is post 128 for me. You must have adjusted settings or something.
it's 126 for me too HT. But yeah i have changed my defaults...
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FWIW i brough a jumper and had the #31 put on it the day after his press conference. Although he didnt put the situation to bed he did enough to get me pumped about his future in red/blue. If he doesnt sign then i'll just have to say i got #31 on my jumper becasue i was a big paul wheetley fan!
Wheatley
Or the great RB!
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It also leaves the door open to an increase in value. Smart.
Playing it smart all round. Just a pity that damn knee is holding him back.
got a concession on the popcorn and beer ?? lol
It's great value
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