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Bernie Vince?

Interesting idea. The Back 6 was traditionally a settled and predictable unit but that is less and less relevant these days. I am still yet to see why everyone is so convinced by Frost's Ruck or Forward prowess, he is significantly undersized and will get beat up as a Ruck and he does not appear to have the physicality or goal sense of a Forward. If he is going to offer anything I think it will be in Defence which may be the club's plan long term anyway.

There is always room for improvement and it is a given that if fit then Dawes and Vince come in. Toumpus, Brayshaw, Kent, Frost & JKH appear to be the most likely to come under consideration. For mine, Frost goes out for Dawes. I commend Frost's effort but he did not kick goals, take marks or bring any physical presence, all of which Dawes does and does well. Dawes has rucked plenty over the journey and is no worse at it than Frost. Frost currently seems to be playing somewhere between a Ruckman and a KPF and is not particularly adept at both, a bit reminiscent of Paul Johnson. Currently, I am not even sure if he is an improvement on Cam Pedersen. I'm glad we got him as he looks capable as a Defender but I think he is down the pecking order when it comes to playing as a KPF. On form alone, the Toump has to go. I would like to see him given a consistent run at it because it is clearly a confidence issue but you cannot go gifting him games at the expense of more deserving & in-form players. I really liked Brayshaw's game and think he looks a good bet for Rising Star. 9 tackles is huge. I also liked Salem's game, he didn't rack it up like we thought he might but he competed really strongly in one-on-ones and came out on top most of the time, which is far more important than getting kicks, they will come soon enough. In: Dawes, Vince Out: Frost, Toumpas

2015 Free Agents - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-18/the-next-crop-of-free-agents I do not expect many of them to want out. Other than the aforementioned GWS midfielders, Kruezer could be worth a look and should not command too hefty a sum.

What is with Roosy meeting people in cafes? If I was headhunting a high profile contracted employee and they wanted to meet up in the local cafe I would assume they were playing me. So unprofessional.

Funny that you should mention that, as for mine Watts's career has always looked scarily similar to that of Brendan Goddard and this is the comparison I always use when Watts haters slag him off. If you look back at Goddard's career you would probably say Watts is about on par with where Goddard was in his 6th season, he didn't really establish himself as a top shelf player until his 7th year.

The VAFA club I played for a couple of years back was constant match simulation, 3-4 groups as described above, rotating through at high intensity with contact, if there was a half or full ground drills nobody was ever still, if you played Seniors then Sunday recovery was compulsory, as was Monday video and statistical analysis with your line coach, pre-season was six months of constant fitness assessment and re-assessment, plus specialist sessions such as tackling technique. This was a suburban VAFA club a couple of rungs down, no doubt the successful private school clubs go even harder. I would say VAFA training programs are barely a few years behind AFL, let alone 30.

Its unfortunate that this rascist bigot is still allowed on this site. Here is a snapshot of his best form: Can this vile turd please be banned.

For sure. I do not take an issue with people saying they do not want him back at MFC and never have. I have an issue with people that think Liam's success or failure at AFL was as simple as him 'pulling his head in', 'being fair dinkum' or 'staying off the grog'. The fact that Liam played as many games as he did was a near miracle and was celebrated as such at the time, then many of those very same supporters that did the celebrating turn on him once it goes bad. That shows that those supporters learnt absolutely nothing from Liam's journey.

Yes everyone has choices and some of them are awful. What you are saying is that if Liam valued his AFL opportunity he should have steered clear of his own family & country, what sort of a choice is that? Well if you don't know much about the subject why kick the bloke while he is down? Do some research and educate yourself or even better go on a road trip to the Central Desert or the Kimberley and see for yourself.

This sort of ignorant dribble is so depressing... Kids that have grown up in a desert community such as Yuendumu are born into poverty and some of the worst housing conditions you will see anywhere in the world and are exposed to disease, murder, suicide, rape and domestic violence from nappies. Every family has found a teenager hanging from the rafters, lost a sister or aunty to domestic violence murder or had to confront sexual abuse, if not all three all of the time. If kids have not succumbed to untreated mental illness and the criminal justice system during their teenage years, the only high education and employment options available are 1,000s of kilometres away in places that are completely foreign and isolating to someone from a remote community. Then when the next inevitable family tragedy occurs these young people feel they have no choice but to pack in their course or job and return to their country to mourn with their family. Yet people still insist Liam chose to destroy his AFL career the day he threw a can of Emu down his throat. It is a shame that all the media around Liam's background that was all the rage when he was kicking goals seems to have been so quickly forgotten.

Just as sad is the lack of compassion and understanding from people that think the challenges faced by kids from remote Aboriginal communities such as Liam are as simple as a person staying off the grog. Liam's life back home had his AFL career in the balance the entire time, long before he got on the grog.

I went back to playing at 30 after some bad experiences playing junior footy. VAFA has the Clubbies comp, which is more of a social comp for old blokes and the athletically challenged, although still highly competitive and part of serious football clubs. We have blokes from overseas that have never kicked a footy in their life come down for a run. Because everyone's washed up or no good and the team is managed by the players, everyone gets a fair run, at least until finals time anyway. Fours year later I am still playing. One of the best things I've ever done, kicked the fags, Friday nights and Saturday arvos off the grog & mates for life. Don't die wondering.

Whilst he has all the traits of a backline general and this is where he has played his best footy, memories of a praccy match against the Bombers at Princes Park under Bailey where he lined up in the middle after half time and smashed out 5 clearances in as many minutes keeps me optimistic that we may have midfielder yet. Both Grimesy and Trenners remind me of Bartel in different ways, slow, not athletic, up and under kicking style but strong tackles, courageous marking and heart. If one of em makes it to Bartel's level I'll be happy.

For better or worse, the crumbing forward is a dying breed. Most kids that want to get into the midfield of a Top 4 club have to establish themselves playing as a forward first. I love the way Geelong go about this. They constantly blood new kids through there forward line & develop midfield depth while at the same time developing midfielders that kick goals. Much more sustainable model than using one-trick pony forward pockets that will inevitably get locked down in big games.