Whispering_Jack

Progressive Voting:

131. Tyla Hanks

109. Kate Hore

70. Elizabeth McNamara

69. Maeve Chaplin

51. Tayla Harris

48. Megan Fitzsimon

36. Eden Zanker

32. Shelley Heath

17. Paxy Paxman Ryleigh Wotherspoon

15. Olivia Purcell

14. Sinead Goldrick

4. Tahlia Gillard Lauren Pearce Saraid Taylor

2. Maggie Mahony

1. Alyssa Bannan Gabrielle Colvin Laela Ebert Molly O’Hehir Jemma Rigoni

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Next years draft?

I think he’s a few years away, possibly 2028.

The 2025 AFL National Draft order after the trades -

ROUND ONE

1 West Coast Eagles

2 West Coast Eagles

3 Richmond

4 Richmond

5 Essendon

6 Essendon

7 Melbourne

8 Melbourne

9 Carlton

10 Hawthorn

11 Carlton

12 GWS Giants

13 West Coast Eagles

14 Western Bulldogs

15 Gold Coast Suns

16 Adelaide

17 Brisbane Lions

18 Gold Coast Suns

19 Geelong

20 Fremantle

21 Essendon

22 Hawthorn

23 Brisbane Lions

ROUND TWO

24 Gold Coast Suns

25 North Melbourne

26 North Melbourne

27 Essendon

28 Gold Coast Suns

29 Gold Coast Suns

30 Essendon

31 Sydney

32 Sydney

33 Western Bulldogs

34 West Coast Eagles

35 GWS Giants

36 Gold Coast Suns

37 Melbourne

38 Richmond

39 Collingwood

40 Geelong

41 West Coast Eagles

42 Sydney

43 Carlton

ROUND THREE

44 Brisbane Lions

45 Collingwood

46 North Melbourne

47 Fremantle

48 Adelaide

49 Port Adelaide

50 St Kilda

51 Brisbane Lions

52 Gold Coast Suns

53 West Coast Eagles

54 Carlton

55 Adelaide

56 Collingwood

57 North Melbourne

58 West Coast Eagles

59 Brisbane Lions

60 Geelong

61 Collingwood

ROUND FOUR

62 Hawthorn

63 Sydney

64 Adelaide

65 St Kilda

66 Melbourne

67 Carlton

68 Brisbane Lions

69 Fremantle

70 Western Bulldogs

71 Melbourne

72 Carlton

73 Adelaide

74 Western Bulldogs

75 Adelaide

76 Hawthorn

77 Collingwood

78 Geelong

79 Brisbane Lions

Not a biggie here.

• Richmond receive Patrick Retschko - Geelong receive a sixth-round pick (99)

But how about this one?

Melbourne has reeled in three first round picks while giving back three seconds as Christian Petracca finally became a Gold Coast Sun.

In a deal that dragged on into the final day as the two clubs haggled over the picks that were swapped back and forth.

Melbourne netted picks 7, 8 and a future first while sending the second rounders back to Gold Coast.

• No deals for Zac Merrett, Callum Ah Chee, Baku Khamis and Rowan Marshall

• “Jack Steel has been traded to Melbourne for a future third round pick.” - Cal Twomey

• Deal lodged for Clayton Oliver to become a Giant. Future third-round pick leaving the Giants to Melbourne.

• Melbourne's interest in Jack Steele is reciprocated by the St Kilda captain. Steele has stated his preference is to stay at the Saints, but he is open to joining the Demons subject to a trade. Two years to run on a contract so negotiations would take place on who pays what.

Trades ~

• Carlton receives Oliver Florent - Sydney Swans receive a 2026 third-round pick (tied to Carlton)

• Melbourne receives Changkuoth Jiath - Hawthorn receives a second-round pick (42) and a 2026 fourth-round pick (tied to Melbourne)

• Sydney Swans receive Jai Serong and a 2026 fourth-round selection (tied to Hawthorn) - Hawthorn receives a 2026 third-round selection (tied to Sydney)

• Carlton receives a first-round pick (currently 9) and three second-round picks (31, 42 and 43) - Hawthorn receives two first-round picks (10 and 22)

• Adelaide Crows receive Finnbar Maley and a fourth-round pick (64) - North Melbourne receive a third-round pick (57) and a 2026 fourth-round pick (tied to Adelaide)

Midday mail

• Tom Morris on Rowan Marshall - "Geelong is still adamant they still want him. This will go down to the wire. St Kilda might flat bat it. Geelong are still trying. He doesn't want to play for St Kilda next year. This one will go down to the wire."

• Cal Twomey - "They (Melbourne) lose Judd McVee at half back and bring in CJ, who has always been on the fringe of the Hawks 23. That will be a late pick."

(Me: make that late pick the one we get from GWS for Clarry)

• Cal Twomey - Melbourne has emerged as a contender for St Kilda midfielder Jack Steele. The midfielder has to weigh up whether he would leave the Saints.

Just to start the day ~

• Tom Morris on the Petracca deal: "The Petracca deal will happen, with Picks 7 & 8 to Melbourne and Pick 24 going back to the Suns. There is also a range of other pick swaps going on with Melbourne and Gold Coast. The Demons will get more draft capital over the next two years, and the Suns will get more points."

• Morris on the Oliver deal: "GWS are offering a future 3rd round pick for Clayton Oliver." That might sound like a bad deal but look at what Gold Coast’s offering the Bulldogs for JUH - Pick 70. That makes the deal offered by GWS an absolute steal.

1 hour ago, old55 said:

I reckon we've already done that for two years. We helped Clarrie to a better place now it's time for both to move on.

If that’s what we’ve done for two years (and none of us know for sure) then it wasn’t done particularly well. I understand the club wanting to cut its losses and I want nothing more than to see him rehabilitated and happy. But I question whether the course being taken is in his best interests.

4 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Would be nice to think this could be a possibility but I think we all know we will probs end up taking the deal. We backed ourselves into a corner and now have to pay for it.

Same with track imo he isn’t coming back and we will end up taking pics.

This isn’t a great trade period for us unfortunately and we r paying the price for previous mistakes.

To be clear, I’m not sure as to whether we backed ourselves into a corner or whether we were backed into a corner and if it was the latter, at the behest of who?

I didn’t make my comment lightly because I’ve always been a supporter of Clarrie, he’s been a much loved and highly decorated player at the club and, by it’s implications, the Giants’ offer demeans him and his character more than anything else. In the long run, it might be better to show some strength, for both him and the club to sit back, take our time and find a way to help an individual who has lost his way.

Who handles player transfer negotiations in today's landscape?

Within an hour of Steven King's meeting with Clayton Oliver, the media had already picked up on the story. Although the source of the information from Melbourne was unclear, it was widely accepted that the Demons would need to pay out half of Clarry's contract, and even then, they would receive minimal compensation in return.

In line with those reports, Jon Ralph stated this morning: "Demons potentially paying as much as $700,000 to the Giants, which represents about 3.8 per cent of the salary cap".

As expected, the Giants' offer now on the table mirrors the one proposed shortly after King's meeting. Melbourne is told to take it or leave it and the media expects (demands) it to do so.

Another response could be that all negotiations are off the table. The Melbourne Football Club requires Clarry to report for duty when training commences in November, fully prepared to fulfill his contractual obligations and in suitable condition to do so. If not (on either count), the matter could become a legal issue between the player and the club and we possibly go one player short for season 2026.

MONDAY TRADES

• GWS receives a first-round pick (12) - Western Bulldogs receive a first-round pick (14) and a second-round pick (37)

• GWS receives: a first-round pick (12) - Western Bulldogs receive a first-round pick (14) and a second-round pick (37)

• Port Adelaide receives Will Brodie - Fremantle receives a sixth-round selection (103)

TUESDAY TRADES

Brisbane Lions receive a third-round pick (59) and a 2026 third-round pick (tied to Melbourne) - Collingwood receives two third-round picks (45 and 56)

• Essendon receive Brayden Fiorini - Gold Coast Suns receive a 2026 third-round pick (tied to Essendon)

Progressive Tally

120. Tyla Hanks

96. Kate Hore

69. Maeve Chaplin

64. Elizabeth McNamara

51. Tayla Harris

48. Megan Fitzsimon

24. Eden Zanker

17. Paxy Paxman Ryleigh Wotherspoon

16. Shelley Heath

15. Olivia Purcell

14. Sinead Goldrick

4. Lauren Pearce Saraid Taylor

2. Maggie Mahony

1. Alyssa Bannan Gabrielle Colvin Laela Ebert Molly O’Hehir

Turned out a positive day for the Demons in the end -

• Sam Edmund has some late news, Changkuoth Jiath agrees to join Melbourne on a three-year deal, but a trade needs to be agreed, of course. (I can see Tom Morris grinning as he tells his listeners that CJ is worth 3 first rounders)

• Connor Budarick has been traded to the Western Bulldogs. Gold Coast will receive Pick 37 for Budarick and Pick 70

• Brayden Fiorini is officially an Essendon player. Gold Coast get a 2026 3rd rounder.

More explosive revelations ~

• North Melbourne won’t be pursuing Leek Aleer. The Roos have considered a move for him after St Kilda pulled out, but won’t be going any further. Aleer expected now to stay at GWS on the three-year offer the club has made for him.

• Tom Morris - Hawthorn has offered a deal to Essendon for Zach Merrett - Pick 9, a future first, a second rounder this year or next and Henry Hustwaite.

• Sam Edmund: Melbourne has an interest in Changkuoth Jiath. Jiath has an agreement with the Hawks to explore the market in search of greater playing opportunity. The Demons have emerged as a potential suitor for the rebounding defender, but there is no offer yet.

• clarifying that swap of picks ~

Brisbane Lions receive a third-round pick (currently No.59) and a 2026 third-round pick (tied to Melbourne) - Collingwood receives two third-round picks (currently No.45 and 56)

Only involves a pick tied to Melbourne as a result of the Brody Mihocek trade.

• and the big one for today. A player likely to end up at GWS or GCS where he will find good company

The day begins a bit like Groundhog Day but no doubt something will eventually happen to bring the AFL Radio team to life.

• some news on JUH (he’s just emerged from the nightclub?) - "The Suns board is on board, the AFL is on board. All that is left is for Robbie D'Orazio and Craig Cameron to sort it out. It will happen today or early tomorrow." - Tom Morris on Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Suns Callum Twomey

• Sam Edmund expects Changkuoth Jiath to be on the move, but Carlton won't be his next home...

• a three-way trade has been approved.

Brisbane trade 2025 Round Three Pick 45 and 2025 Round Three Pick 56 to Collingwood for 2025 Round Three Pick 59 and 2026 Round Three selection (tied to Melbourne) in the respective Telstra AFL Drafts.

There has to be more to this than reported and will try to find out.

- "Gold Coast and Melbourne are meeting today around the Christian Petracca deal and the Jamarra chase is likely to tip into tomorrow. The Fiorini deal, there's some talking to be done there."

• soon after the above statement was made, there followed an interview with Michael Oakes the manager of Bailey Humphrey in which he explained why his client was keen to get back to Victoria. Also on the subject of a trade:

"Bailey is a contracted player and whilst contracted he has always known it is at the club's discretion. I think the Suns have been consistently resolute they won't trade him. I'd say so (he won't be traded). "

• Sydney's first official trade offer for Charlie Curnow is in.

Trades today -

• GWS receives a first-round pick (12) - Western Bulldogs receive a first-round pick (14) and a second-round pick (27)

• West Coast Eagles receive Tylar Young - Richmond receive a second-round pick (38)

• Port Adelaide receives Will Brodie - Fremantle receives a sixth-round selection (103)

Great start to the morning from the AFL Trade Radio gurus. They are on fire ~

• Tom Morris has impeccable sources (apparently, he lives in the Hardwick household): "Gold Coast will give 7 and 8 to Melbourne, providing they get 24 back. If this happens, it essentially means Melbourne will lose Petracca and McVee for 7 and 8... That's a pretty good deal. As much as Melbourne would have loved Bailey Humphrey to be part of this deal, I think that's been a nice wish but is off the table entirely. Petracca will be a Gold Coast Player, it will get done."

• The same Tom Morris on Clayton Oliver: "The more Melbourne pays, the better pick they expect. They might be able to get Pick 35 or 37 off GWS, but I think it's very likely Clayton Oliver gets to the Giants for a future third rounder."

• It's not looking like Steven May will be finding a new home in this trade period.

• Max Heath was interviewed: "It is obviously pretty hard to leave a club you have loved for four years but the tutelage from Max Gawn and Tom Campbell was too hard to overlook."

WEEKEND TRADE

• The Western Bulldogs will trade pick 12 to Greater Western Sydney for picks 14 & 37. To be lodged tomorrow, apparently in conjunction with a trade involving Connor Broderick.

Then there’s this interesting comment from Ralphie. Although not strictly AFL Trade Radio related it’s worth bringing into the conversation and asking every ATR commentator why they don’t apply this principle when they discuss the possibility of a trade of Christian Petracca to the Gold Coast Suns -

On 10/10/2025 at 21:00, Tarax Club said:

Whispering_Jack your daily summaries are required reading for the discerning demon supporting cognescenti. Saves the angst of wading through voluminous fugazzi and being being none the wiser.

Problem is that nothing really happens on the weekends but I guess it’s worth mentioning that Cal Twomey has reported a pick swap agreed over the weekend and is set to be lodged tomorrow.

The Western Bulldogs will trade pick 12 to Greater Western Sydney for picks 14 & 37.

That latter pick (37) is separately set to be used by the Dogs to get a deal done for Connor Budarick.

This could have some bearing on an Oliver trade if it goes ahead and a swap of picks takes place.

3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@Whispering_Jack MFC 7&8 hypothetical would be picks 11&12 given Uwland, Paterson, Annable & Dean as nominated priority players. So unlikely to get Robey and Xavier Taylor. But young guns like (Josh) Lindsay, Farrow, Addinsall and Dovaston as options. Lindsay was potentially a number 1 pick 12 months ago. He’s a star. He’s delivery is elite. He’s smart. He’s sidestep is also excellent.

So we could still potentially swap picks and move up the list as well if there was a particular player we really wanted.

The Zero Hanger clickbait site has its current mock top 10 for the forthcoming draft as follows

If the selections fall that way, Melbourne would under the media’s almost unanimous GCS trade for Tracc, select Sullivan Robey and Xavier Taylor while giving up pick 24. While these players might sound okay, there’s very little to show of Robey (he was a latecomer to the conversation) and Taylor may or may not turn out as good as the experts expect.

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I think we would be expecting at least this and the capacity to land a decent player, perhaps in conjunction with the Oliver trade.