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That's very good. Based on this we'd have all but three players available for Richmond on ANZAC Eve.

We looked like contenders while the Hawks only had 2 wins. Crazy how quickly it changed. That goal from Fritsch is an all-time MFC highlight. The rundown tackle and goal from Windsor was also an amazing moment for a first year player.

He would still be playing VFL if we kept him on the list. More dissapointed that we haven't drafted another KPD to get ready for life after May and McDonald. Cupboard is bare if Adams isn't up to it.

When we signed Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver etc. to long contracts, in face of rumours of the first two leaving, it was seen by most members as a sign of how strong the club had become. Now they are 'bad contracts'...

Frustratingly we have an injury list that is heavy on <22's. Windsor, Tholstrup, McVee, Jefferson, Lindsay... all should be playing when they're fit in 3-4 weeks time.

Big issue is that fans won't want to rock up to games now, it's clear we all want to see the back of Goodwin. There's no-one else in the coaching panel that would inspire the fanbase though. I assume Chaplin would take over as interim; that doesn't excite me at all. At least at one stage we had T Viney and Yze around. Jones is in the box but a mile off it and right now looks like a questionable hire.

Lever and Kozzie raise the talent floor. May gets a poor rusty game out of his system and plays better. Hopefully Windsor is ready. Who knows...

Sorry but I can't buy this. We finished top 4 both years. 2022 finals I'll accept, it wasn't great, but the 2023 finals were lost by the players on the day, not the coach.

2023 was lost on injuries to forwards and poor set shot kicking. There was no conspiracy, we just had bad luck and kicked ourselves out of two finals. Melksham plays against Collingwood and we win, then I'm confident we would've handled GWS.

You can trade 2 years of first round picks as of this year. So Collingwood could give us their 2026 and 2027 firsts.

Package Rivers, McVee and JVR for West Coast's first and second round picks.

Thank you for the flag but the way we've unravelled on and off field since 2023 is too much of a mess to recover from.

Landford looks a mile off it, just wants a cheap handball every time he has the ball.

Drafting talls is a coin flip at best, and it takes years for them to have an impact. Jefferson and JVR were both drafted in the first round since we won the flag. Unfortunately neither have worked in that time. Maybe we could've drafted Armstrong last year, but it wouldn't make any difference to us this year. We'd have given up Landford or Lindsay to do so. The only decent talls from 2022 are Mac Andrew, Jye Amiss and Sam Darcy. We didn't have the rights or draft picks to get them. The next best is JVR. There's only one 193cm+ player in the 2022 draft who has played more than 10 games (Cadman). If you look at trading instead, it's impossible. Jackson left us with one destination in mind and there was nothing we could do. This is the story with trading for talls. Clubs don't let them go easily. When they go, usually they have only one team in mind. We tried hard to get Max Gruzewski from GWS last year and they refused to budge.

Turner, yes. I think we need the move sooner than later, get his development really going there for the future.

2023 we were very very very good, injuries and set shots cost us a flag. Since then, yes, I completely agree. I can tolerate on field performance to an extent but under his watch the culture went backwards too.

I agree, but I've seen us in this situation countless times and we rarely find the ability to switch on. Petracca should be good enough. I'd love to say we should move him forward, but he'll get no supply. Salem, Langdon, Rivers having shockers.

Chandler second on the ground for distance covered after Langdon. It's showing, best game I've seen from him in some time.

Our best players have gone missing.

Rivers, Petracca, Gawn, Langdon all having shocking games. Four elite players who could turn up and give us a huge boost.

Jefferson is like the baby of Watts and Weideman. Not great. Looks hurt here, hope he's ok, but honestly subbing him out wouldn't be there worst.

Fritsch, Jefferson, Turner and Sparrow are STATLESS. No disposals, no tackles.

We'd be scoreless if Toby Pink wasn't playing.

Makes a lot of sense. Could see us subbing out someone like Jeffo later in the game to go smaller.

Kynan Brown says hi! Turner comes into the side for AJ, Langford moves into the 22 for Windsor, Spargo replaces Langford as the sub. Not that difficult really.