David-Demon

1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Winning the first 10 games in 2022 meant that at that stage we hadn't lost our edge. Maybe then we began to think that winning was too easy and became far too confident in our approach. Lets get it back in 25.

 

You raise some good points: Firstly, I do not think the hunger is there as it was in 2021. To miss the Finals - someone needs to be accountable, and I feel an independent review may well just cover tracks that we already know need improvement, as you point out, and frankly, that is due to a somewhat a "stale" motivational atmosphere at the Club. Maybe it is time for other Coaches, Med staff, and some admin staff to hand over the reins to a new breed. I believe the player base is not that of a concern. The obvious improvement needs to come from better recruiting, a backup for the aging Gawn, and an improved forward structure - not to mention outside mids. Finally, losing Tracca and Oliver at crucial times made life harder.

On 01/09/2024 at 10:35, WERRIDEE said:

B: Lever, May, McVee

HB: Salem, McDonald, Rivers

C: Windsor, Pick 5, Langdon

HF: Petracca, Petty, Chandler

F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Turner

FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney

IC: Moniz-Wakefield, Sparrow, Tholstrup, McAdam, Melksham

 

Casey

B: Howes, Adams, Draft pick

HB: Bowey, Draft pick, Draft pick

C: Billings, Laurie, Brown

HF: Spargo, Kentfield, Draft pick

F: Yze?, Jefferson, Fullerton

FOLL: Draft pick, Draft pick, Draft pick

IC: Mentha?, Verrall

SUS: Pickett

I'll revisit this after the trade period. 

I love the followers for Casey and the interchange too. Great players.

9 hours ago, Mickey said:

We could also end up like GC...

On 27/08/2024 at 03:27, dazzledavey36 said:

It was awful wasn't it..

Pert is part of the problem at the MFC. He is a person baked in his own self glory.

On 28/08/2024 at 20:03, Roost it far said:

Kozzy can be part of the Reid trade in the next few years

We are talking Tom Morris for goodness sake. He is the last [censored] I would listen to.

On 25/08/2024 at 05:14, rufus said:

Very hard to know what the hell is going on with this one. One of the oddest situations in recent memory and one that seems to be damaging both the club and the player as it continues. So many reports contradict themselves (e.g. giving the club a kick up the butt to improve while simultaneously fostering a situation that makes it very hard for the club to sell itself to people who might be able to help it do that).

No idea what's gone on behind close doors. If there has been pressure applied to the club that we must get better then I'm all for that. Our 3 years since the flag have delivered so much less than they could have. But if it's more of a 'you must get better' to the club then I would feel it lacks self awareness and somewhat shirks the responsibility of the club's highest paid player to both deliver when under immense pressure and to drive the standards that ultimately turn the club into what we all want it to be.

If it's simply a 'you must get better' then I'd love the club's response to be that we get the best value for him and move on. I would also not expect the club to make this public at all as it would simply hurt the negotiating position which is currently very strong.

I have no idea what is going on behind closed doors either, but where there is smoke, there is fire beneath. I agree that our admin both footy admin and Perts' side of the club seem to be weak at the knees. Honestly, I think it's time for a clean sweep of some personnel at the Club - including Goodwin if things don't straighten out soon.

On 24/08/2024 at 15:37, Lexinator said:

Yep. Thought Chandler played a great game. Chased all night, tackled, few good marks, and was one of the few that was kicking alright inside 50. Unlucky to get a few more goals. Generally liked his effort the most.

Could of had McDonald with 6 too, but reckon he's played slightly better games this season, but easily the best defender on the night. Thoroughly deserves another year, been a real revelation down back.

totally agree

On 23/08/2024 at 08:52, Lexinator said:

6. Chandler.

5. McDonald.

4. Salem.

3. Gawn.

2. Rivers.

1. Tholstrup.

 

Interesting you gave Chandler the 6.  McDonald has been a surprise this year and Tholstrop has come along nicely.

18 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i don't see how giving your direct opponent 20m of freeboard all the time is somehow actually "trying"

at least go down, if you must, in a contest

Has nothing to do with my comments.

5 hours ago, Heart Beats True said:

Again 🙄

Get off the coach's back. Look at what he had to use on the field tonight then you may understand why we lost.

3 hours ago, Hellfire Dub said:

As if the uncontested marks and free possessions we gave them, or the many missed tackles weren't bad enough, we kept kicking it straight to them in the centre of the ground.  They kept running up and scoring from our turnovers.  

That is totally unfair, especially if you are a heart and soul Demon. In case you never knew we had six top-line players out last night and that above all else should be where we start when we analyze the end result. They tried. We were not good enough, end of story. 

3 hours ago, Hellfire Dub said:

As if the uncontested marks and free possessions we gave them, or the many missed tackles weren't bad enough, we kept kicking it straight to them in the centre of the ground.  They kept running up and scoring from our turnovers.  

1 hour ago, frankie_d said:

This looked like a mid 2000 Melbourne game - in the dark dark times. Beaten on the inside, killed for pace on the outside, other team looks even faster because of their delivery skills. Missed tackles. We're desperately short of AFL grade personel, not hard enough, not skilled enough. 

I don't want to go back to the days of 3:20 Sunday games against the Suns at the G with 9000 in attendance. But that's where we're heading unless we have a rejuvenation. Peter Jackson, where are you?

Look, I understand your point but we had Tracca, Oliver, May, Lever, Sparrow out.. Poor Viney tagged and hugged so it was hard to feel a win when you have so many out.  Plenty of players well below AFL standard. Frankly I would never had played Tomlinson. Hope he finds another VFL club to play for. (sooner rather than later) 

3 hours ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

Can't sleep.

Never been so excited for a dead rubber💙❤️

Is there a dead rubber premiership cup?

On 19/08/2024 at 01:33, kozzyisalegend said:

These players are out of contract in 2024

If they are bolded I think they will be delisted/retired.

Ben Brown

Kynan Brown

Kyah Farris-White

Marty Hore

Lachie Hunter

Luker Kentfield

Tom McDonald 

Jake Melksham 

Andy Moniz-Wakefield

Josh Schache

Ollie Sestan

Joel Smith

Adam Tomlinson

Will Verrall

Thoughts?

Nooo Noooo    stay for McDonald, Verrall,  Monitz- Wakefield and Hore.  Heck you have delisted 30% OF OUR 2024 LIST.

On 21/08/2024 at 07:53, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Thanks for all your efforts over the years Staf, through the good times and the bad you left an almighty imprint on the club and culture.

To be a fly around that camp fire at your joint at the start of 21 would have been an unreal experience, creating long lasting bonds that would cement our 13th🏆 premiership.

Safe travels to your next destination.

Thankyou for your comments, as a supporter, I hate seeing all these other negative comments in this thread. Heck the man gave exceptional service at a time when it was needed back in 2014

On 17/08/2024 at 03:04, Doug Reemer said:

If

North beat the Dogs.

Tigers beat the Hawks.

WCE beat Carlton.

North beat the Hawks

Saints beat Carlton

Lions beat Essendon

 

All we need is a 100pt win against the pies..

Hmmm.. that's a possibility... I will take $1: to $1,000 against it happening.    any takers? 

23 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Updated

Retire: Brayshaw (medical) B.Brown, Melksham, McDonald, Hunter

Delist: Schache, JS29, Tomlinson, Sestan, Farris-White

Trade: ANB 💔 (crows 2nd round pick) 

*upgrade : Moniz-Wakefield  

** thats 10 list spots available **

rookies: Hore, Kentfield, KBrown, Verrall 

Stuck with existing poor list management …Contracted until end 25: Spargo. Billings. Contracted until end 26: Laurie, McAdam.  None were deserving of such deals.  (Tim Lamb 🤯)
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Aim to bring in

1. Free agent priority : Isaac Cumming - skilled half back 

2. Find a mature plan B ruckman to support Gawn

3. Trade in tall key defender (cover loss of Tmcd or Tomlinson) 

4. get mature midfielder - Will Brodie from Freo (would cost future 5th rounder!!)  adds immediately to our midfield 

National Draft. Let JT weave his magic. (5 picks likely) 

1st round - either Xavier Lindsay🌟/Harvey Langford🌟/Sam Lalor🌟

early 2nd round (circa pick 25 - Crows pick) Cooper Hynes/Jobe Shanahan/ Taj Hotton/Christian Moraes

 Late 2nd round: (circa pick 40 - Swans pick) some potential names who might be available: Kade Gerryn ,  Hamish Davis , Lachie Jacques, Zak Johnson, Kade Herbert. 

Youngsters who could be bargains at a 3rd/4th round pick 50 ish :  Jack Ough, Patrick Retschko, Cody Anderson , Oliver Depaoli-Kubank, Zane Cochrane, Bailey McKenzie,  Jaxon Artemis, Keighton Matofai-Forbes.

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Add as a Rookie: father son Noah Yze

Add Cat B rookie: Ricky Mentha

Lot of work went into that summary. well said...... but surely T.Mc has one more year ?  I would try to offload some others such as Spargo. Billings and McAdam. They are limited senior players as you say.  

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You're right...the bigger picture should prevail. In this instance, the bigger picture is that Neal-Bullen is putting his family first.

That's just a circular discussion that does not resolve either party. Look, the guy is not 21.. He has ten years of service, surely there is a life after playing in which he could spin this yarn in the not-too-distant future. 

1 hour ago, 58er said:

Ten years of everything you could ask a player to do. Alex has been a wonderful Clubman even above his playing role which has shown genuine improvement virtually every year.
And it is after ten years. A wonderful contribution all ways round. 

Alex and his family deserve our best wishes at the same time negotiate strongly to replace him. 

Sorry, the bigger picture prevails in my mind. He signed a new CLUB approved contract in 2023.. Are you telling me he never thought of his current reasoning about his views now.?  I would sit down with him and his family and seek a deliverance whereby, at the end of his playing days, it is time to move to S.A. I thought a pregnancy lasted nine months.... Maybe I am wrong on that.....

On 13/08/2024 at 07:01, Clintosaurus said:

 

The Eeyores are all feeling giddy inside at the moment. 

I think the overall view here on this thread is that we need 100% loyalty at the club; having others resign is a step in the right direction, however, when there is one player rocking the boat, it is not a good sign. Maybe there are others that will see a way out - Tracca, Viney et el. 

I've got a good idea... Let's recruit a guy by the name of J. Hogan playing for GWS.  Does anyone know much about him - or his history?

13 hours ago, Garbo said:

We can’t be risking Gawn now if he isn’t 95%, I’d rather play without him this week if it means he is better for it for the remainder of the season. If it hypothetically costs us finals so be it, it’s about more than this year anyway and if one game is the difference we probably weren’t going to be a contender anyway.

BUT the medical team is handling our list well. When did we have a list with so few injuries?

Gawny will play..

On 15/07/2024 at 17:03, Kent said:

No Bowey please 

Yeah to Bowey - He stays.... I would have Sparrow sub and def Disco in the 22.. Just sayin.

7 hours ago, Oxdee said:

Typical click bait but also wouldn’t shock me if it were to happen 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9d8kirulCn/?igsh=MWcwZnZ3cm9iNTh2eg==

My God, they ramble on so much BS. Think they are trying to get ratings up...