picket fence

13 hours ago, chookrat said:

If we are to seriously consider Ben Brown we need to stipulate I'm the contract that he changes his ridiculous hair. I don't care how many goals he kicks if so have to see him walk 80 metres when lining up for goal with all eyes on him with his hair bobbing around.

He kicks goals.... something not a lot of our guys know how to do. For all I care he can wear pink boots, colored nail varnish and have more makeup than Marilyn Manson sing "The real thing" each time he kicks a major and wear his hair any God damn way he likes providing he kicks goals which he seems to be able to do!! Regularly!! Get him in! And when we get him in he will develop a CULT Following! Starting with me!

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

A serious Key Forward, pending a full medical 

Excellent. I don’t understand those who are against this

Weid as the 2nd Tall. 
TMac to get fit

Luke Jackson as The Follower...

T Mac goes as part of the deal,, Oh and Oscar can go with him!!

Those 2018 highlights offer COMPELLING evidence that he is not just a lead up forward.

DEES GET THIS DONE FFS

6 hours ago, DeeZee said:

If he gets a haircut and reduces his run up I’d take him.

Nah.. Dennis LILLEE had a HUUUUUGE RUN UP and he went orright!! ?

Champion player just breathtaking!

26 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I will say this now, Oliver's next deal will be his biggest and talk if salary cuts have already begun.

I believe there are rumours floating around and it's more than likely coming from his camp. I don't believe there's anything to the rumours. I believe it's step 1 in getting the best deal for his client.

This happens every year at every club

This is true, However, any other club would be putting time in to assess how big an offer it would take to lure him away! There would be clubs out there I'm sure that would offer him around $850 -$ 900 Grand or more per year for 5 years. Now if that is the case can you see MFC being able to match that??

I want to put this to rest. We cannot accept anything for Clarry!! Period!! And I say this If we have signed up Viney for 5 years to the detriment of getting Oliver for the same amount of time then that's me Done totally with MFC FOREVER!!

16 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I have no reason to disbelieve you but it’s  ALMOST technically impossible for Oliver to get to Carlton because he’s under contract.

Saad will cost Essendon either a current or future first rounder, so therefore Carlton will need to cough up either a current or future first rounder PLUS an additional first rounder (which they’ll need to source from another club)

OR a Paddy Cripps or McKay straight swap.

We as MFC members can’t accept anything less than two first rounders for a 2018 all Australian member, a 2020 All Aust 40 squad member and a serial top 5 bluey place getter.

I want to put this to rest. We cannot accept anything for Clarry!! Period!! And I say this If we have signed up Viney for 5 years to the detriment of getting Oliver for the same amount of time then that's me Done totally with MFC FOREVER!!

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm generally not a fan of five year contracts. However, in this instance I could see that the longer contract term is compensation for losing the captaincy. It would have been ego-deflating for someone so (relatively) young to have the captaincy taken away. Many players in his situation may have considered leaving to go somewhere where they felt more wanted. The five year offer might have been offered as a sweetener way back when the removal of the captaincy was "negotiated".  

Well if you are correct and this is compensation for losing Captaincy, then.... We are worse of than I first thought!

13 hours ago, A F said:

I hope we've put a 5 year extension in front of Oliver. If we haven't, we're asleep at the wheel.

BANG!

On 10/2/2020 at 10:23 PM, Chook in Perth said:

Hi all. Been a while.

Yze coming home

Good! he can take Melksham's spot on a HFF

5 hours ago, 58er said:

Still haven't answered my question PF What is the bite going to be ? 
Tell  us all 

Why are you predicting doom  because of this ONE decision that if not completed NOW would have set our future 5 years Back irreparably and the momentum gained in 2021 ( more than many are finding in their reviews ) especially with our IMO elite draftees Riv Dogga and Kossie, and youth eg Lockhart Fritsch plus Sparrow etc.

Our development of players is far more a worry than you classifying one of our true legends resigning fir 5 years a disaster !!!

Mark my words this will be a filip fir all if you really look at the counter side of Jack not recommitting.

But prey tell WHY it will be so Biting for us??? PF 

Ok, because you have put money into a limited footballer with the potential of little to no improvement. His game has not evolved from day 1 

1 Tries to take on player after player after player and more often than not gets caught or is panicked into a poor disposal.

2 Will not honour the first option, or second

3 Kicking is adequate but not elite

4 No Right side

5 Too one dimensional.

6 What if ... His foot injuries return?

Ok thats my take on WHY this decision will bite us. IMV Take it or leave it!

Ok over to you, can you give me 5 Compelling reasons for a 5 year deal???

16 hours ago, Billy said:

Don’t be ridiculous, l agree 5 years is to much, but you don’t offer a 1 year deal to a player that just finished 3rd in the b&f

Unless the vote givers have blinkers on! As I put up his stats for the year previously compared to Oliver in fact I would say his year was  nowhere near a 3 rd in B&F ! Go on check his stats for yourself. I and other rated Oliver as easily 3rd in B & F.  2 years would have been enough with clear trigger for a third. 5 years for Viney? Unbelievable!

18 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

 

I'm over here, on the other side of the road!

Ok Got it

Just now, waynewussell said:

Do you ever wonder why (in online speak) other posters cross the road when they see you coming?

Good onya Wayne, so I'm not entitled to a reasoned opinion??

1 minute ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Already bookmarked but for a different reason.

And what is that reason???

50 minutes ago, 58er said:

So you are saying this time next year we will all be wanting Jack to leave PF?

Only your opinion but I admit we have to sort out his style of play and our mids link with and take proper advantage of Maxy's ruck work.

Need new midfield coach to bring fresh approach.

No, bookmark my comment coz I reckon this decision will come back and bite BIG TIME!

1 possibly 2 year deal with triggers. Bookmark this for same time next year and see if I'm mistaken!

Just now, Demonsone said:

Great news as his heart beats red & blue.....Also can see him becoming Captain again.....

LOL

4 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Very glad he has signed on and clearly wants to be a Demon for life.

Players like this don’t grow on trees.

Gawn, Viney, Petracca, Oliver, May, Salem and Langdon are absolutely core players and must keep along with our young talent in Rivers, Pickett, Jackson, Fritsch

Tally ho Pip Pip all good on the good ship Lollypop!

Demon for life yeah great!

Just now, Turner said:

if he isnt the heart and soul of our club then idk who is

viney jones jetta gawn theyre the only players in that conversation - nothing to do with talent but they are melbourne. commitment from him shows leadership it shows belief and bloody well hope we can achieve something big in his time.

Viney Limited just check his seasons stats

Jones Finished

Nev almost the same

Max excellent player. Mate heart and soul IS NOT going to deliver a flag, Classy players will

Viney signing reeks of yet another "Panic" by our Footy admin that saw us do the same thing to sign Goody for an eternity!

No wonder we are so bloody average 

Viney 5 years FMD

1 minute ago, cantstandyasam said:

Positive news. Let's hope he repays the contract with team footy and tackles the opposition so hard that they cry.

Yep coz he is a Rugby player nothing more or less, Crazy decision for a limited player!

A 5 year deal?? Crazy!!!!

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Oliver’s bad habits - 1m handballs, inability to absorb contact then handball to space, rash playing on in traffic, refusing to drive forward from a stoppage and kick to space - have to be corrected to make him the player he should be.

If the coaches know this and there’s tension with Oliver then good, he’ll be a better player for it.

If Oliver knows it and the coaches can’t help him then maybe we’ll wake up and fix the coaching. 

 

A good mate of mine who played 200 odd games of VFL/AFL made an "Astute" observation to me on the phone the other night.

He said he detected a noticeable increase in Clayton Olivers decision making at around the half way part of the season. In essence he believes he made much better decisive decisions to Accelerate out of the packs rather than the obligatory dishoff handball. He believes Clayton Olivers peripheral vision to be as good as ANY in the game and a key factor in his split second footy nous. Now yes I know some of his handballs have been erroneous but the other aspect that my mate suggested is that too many teammates are standing flat footed instead of being as aware as they should be.

Interesting stuff! He also said put Oliver in a top 4 side and he stressed top 4 and he said he would become Extremely elite and win a Brownlow!

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I was being a little facetious.  To be fair to the coaches the votes were very close from 3rd to 5th.

3rd:  Viney, 311

4th:  Langdon, 296

5th:  Oliver, 291

I really think 5th being an issue for Oliver is a furphy

Yes I do as well, however IMV Oliver's season was much better than Viney's!

Here we go Head to Head Clayton Oliver CLEARLY HAD a much better season than Viney !!!

CLAYTON OLIVER

JACK VINEY

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

4 coaches vote each week.  Maybe one coach consistently gave Viney more votes than other coaches.

Well there you have it, clearly our coaches are clueless! How clueless might be played out in this review which might see several on the outer!!