Liviy.

Just wondering does anyone have any info on pre-season training like where it is? or what time it starts on wednesday 31st of october??

mmm maybe it's a bit of fun?

yeah but we can't be relying just on the young guys as well. think about how better our forward line would be if we have robertson. neitz, newton, bate, davey, and who ever else bailey wants to throw in there. i think it looks far better with robertson...It has more structure in it, just my opinion but I think newton needs them both there..He hasn't become a lance franklin yet and he won't just turn into one over night.

mmm interesting responses. I can't really say i agree with saying he should be traded, personally i think that's a little harsh. As much as you say he can be a frustrating player, what about the way he plays when his fully fit? He would be the most electric forward going around in my view. As you can imagine players play footy through-out the year injured and that's exactly what russell has been doing for the last two years. Yeah he does have a lot of problems with his knees but in fairness to melbourne especially last year, how can you rest one of your best forwards? His a match winner. I think you have to give him credit for playing as injured as he has been, and from the outside public view, we don't see that. The only way I can see russell leaving is if he gets traded, he absolutely loves the club. He is probably one of the most passionate guys going around the club. I can understand with saying get rid of him because of his age but really look at the year he had? kicking 44 goals and he missed what, 6 games and played injured all year? That's a fair achievement. It's all good saying blood the young ones but the young ones aren't going to be the whole difference now, it takes them a few seasons..You need to combine young with old, for the experience especially in big matches. Melbourne aren't stupid too, they need to win games next season to earn respect back from the footy world, sponsors and supporters. Why not keep russell while he can still kick goals and have him there to keep helping the young guys out in the forward line, they learn from players like him. Ask any young guy who plays in the forward line and they will tell you how good it is having russell there as well as neitz. Neitz and Robertson admit too they work better together. Maybe there just saying that, but seriously of course we are going to be more successful having two key forwards then just one. And with the injuries neitz has had and his age you can't be expecting him to play every game next season..so if you get rid of Robertson and neitz is injured? There goes our two best forwards.

Hi guys, I've just signed up at this, so I'm all fairly new at this...Sorry. Just wondering ( i hope no-one else has started a topic like this, i couldnt see it) does anyone know what players are out of contract this season??