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The Panglossian

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  1. 3 hours ago, sue said:

    Thanks for this post, Sue.

    Interesting to see which media personalities "sell their soul"  to get the big bucks from the betting companies.

    Interesting also to see how unsuccessful Jenkins's  tips have been. He's always pontificating about good bets on SEN. I've wondered how often he's been correct.

    Sports betting really is a scourge on our community. It's great that MFC has abandoned Pokies.  The AFL hasn't followed suit.     

    It needs to.

  2. 23 minutes ago, layzie said:

    The perfect bookend considering it started with a win over us. 

    I remember that Final when they beat us.  We were coming back strongly near the end, less than a goal behind, when Brad Miller gave them a downfield free , leading to the sealer for them.

  3. I got such a thrill seeing Carlton  having a last minute loss. I remember their gloating when they so luckily beat us in themFinals last season( and during the season if I remember correctly).

    It annoys me how the Carlton fans scream for “ BALL” every time the opposition touch the ball. It works after a while, with the undisputed “ noise of affirmation” affecting the umps.

  4. 2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    They LOST the unloseable !!! 
     

    Goalkicking atrocious 

    HORRIBLE 

    who teaches them. 

    REALLY BAD 

    it costs you games 

    Best. White, Edwards, Sparrow (1st half). Rest were poor. 
     

    Hunter.  Delisted surely.  

    I thought Hore and Tomlinson looked pretty good…. But who was on the guy who got their first 6 goals?

  5. Brilliant manufacture of an excuse by the recidivists!  A player on the boundary was being treated for a tight calf muscle, while the groggy Mackay was being helped to his feet. Great triage by the medical experts! Perhaps they consulted their clever lawyers again to dream up that excuse.

    Of course the AFL  has  forgotten altogether about the Wettering disgrace.

  6. On 22/07/2024 at 23:51, Ethan Tremblay said:

    McKay passed a HIA. What’s the problem exactly? 

    The AFL has reprimanded Carlton for the Mackay incident. They overlooked the Wettering incident in the Final last year.

    Carlton might have to face legal action in many years time if Mackay or Wettering show signs of CTE.

    That’s the problem exactly.

  7. Laurie has looked a class above at Casey.

    He hasn't impacted at AFL level....but has he had much ground time?

    The big chance he did get was when Brayshaw was pole-axed in the Final. He hardly touched it that day.Let's not write hom off for that.

    But I see a very constructive and skillful footballer when I watch Casey. I think he has a tank too,  since he  apparently was a middle-distance runner. Let's see how he goes with another chance with more ground-time.

    Howes also is way over VFL standard, and is an excellent replacement for Salem.

  8. 2 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Agree that they know the players history etc, but in a crucial stage of a final like the Weitering mild concussion case.

    He had the jelly legs and Smith helped him up, no club doctor is taking him off unless he's out cold.

    Imagine this scenario in a GF with 5 mins to go no coach is agreeing to taking a player off.

     

    This is the crux of the argument.

  9. 9 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    “Experts” who were watching from their TV’s. The doctor was obviously at the ground and did the HIA in person. Is the suggestion that the doctor is incompetent or being told what to do by the coaches? Just trying to ascertain what you’re alluding to.

    Unethical practice by the doctor, succumbing to pressure from the club to delay HIA for the Club's benefit.

    That's why there have been so many calls for independent medical assessment of suspected concussion.

    It was blatantly obvious that Mackay and Wettering required urgent and thorough  assessment, not a remote opinion from the edge of the ground, then a delayed test .

  10. 14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    McKay passed a HIA. What’s the problem exactly? 

    The problem was plain to see.

    Numerous experts have expressed their surprise that he wasn’t taken off and assessed immediately.

    What do you mean by “ sour grapes”, Demon Disciple.?  If you had a son playing football and he was staggering around with his eyes rolling in his head, would you want him to stay out on the field? That’s when players are most vulnerable to repeat head trauma.

  11. ·

    Edited by Jumping Jack Clennett
    Typo

    The Carlton doctor should be censured by both the AFL and the Medical Board( AHPRA) for his gross neglect of Mackay’s condition at the weekend.  They considered that it was more important to keep their best players on the ground than consider the likelihood of concussion, and CTE down the track.

    This policy won them the final v Melbourne last September when Wettering was concussed( accidentally) by Smith, who actually helped him to his staggering feet.  They chose not to assess such an important player when the game was in the balance. If they assessed  him ,he’d be  off the ground at a vital time, and would probably be unavailable next match.

    It was Wettering who intercepted Viney’s wayward kick, and who set up the last minute final attack and winning goal.

    Reprehensible neglect of player welfare.

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