The Panglossian

On 27/04/2024 at 15:50, tiers said:

I was there that day when RDB and Melbourne were cheated out of a flag. I was standing on the Punt Rd side at HFF directly opposite the contest and clearly saw RDB trying to punch the ball down and miss Dean's head.

It was the "stage" of a lifetime but in those days the VFL and the tribunal were ning nongs and couldn't cope with the furore.

I have lived for 60 years with this memory and hope Clarry's puncher getting minimum 2 weeks for a dog act will help assuage my misery over RDB.

I remember it well, too,Tiers.

Dean should have been suspended for staging.They got their come-uppance with Neville Crowe  not long after, an innocent victim in similar circumstances (was it John Nicholls?)

BUT..... I hope M Pickett isn't suspended, because I want Richmond to be at their strongest, and knock off a few of our rivals.

Clarrie disclosed after the game that he had sore ribs, and the punch got him right in the sore spot.  I hope this was noted by the umpiring fraternity, because otherwise it could be interpreted as an exaggerated response to the hit.

I'm so besotted with Bobby Hill, I'm going to get "GAOL" tattooed in large letters on my thighs, like him.

Umps have bet on Tigers

1 hour ago, biggestred said:

i would enjoy having maynard on the stand under oath and asking if he intended to hurt people during that game and if he did all he could to exercise his duty of care to other players

Skunkhead wouldn’t care about oaths!

3 hours ago, IRW said:

Are you still talking about this?

Wow

You aren’t…..wow!

I hope Charlie concusses a few Cats players, now he knows he's sacrosanct.

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

No issues with the verdict.

I assume if/when Max, T Mac, Trac and Oliver all cop their first suspensions at the MRO, they will be able to present their "200 games without suspension" pass to the tribunal (the latter two will get to 200 soon).

But are they nice enough guys???

10 hours ago, biggestred said:

I'm gobsmacked he got off. 

Me too………..but I’m glad, because I want Brisbane to take the wind out of Geelong’s sails.

The tribunal actually besmirched Lever’s character saying he is an expert at milking frees.

It would be amazingly  quick thinking for him to jerk his head back after hitting the ground. It all happened so fast he didn’t have time to use his free arm to break the fall.

Saligo threw his head back after Kozzie brushed his face. No- one said he was trying to draw a free.

On 12/04/2024 at 22:11, Kit Walker said:

He got a week.

Consistent with the Kozzie decision - any head high rough conduct will get a minimum medium impact even if there's no actual damage 

Butters?????

I’d like to add Steven Icke to the list of great recruits from other clubs.

Courage personified in a weak team.

I guess you’d have to add Peter Moore, though he didn’t shine in the above feature.

Brian Wilson, too, who helped get strong again in 1987.

Don’t let’s be rude to dogs by comparing them to Maynard. I quite like the sobriquet “skunkhead”. Do other Demonlanders think it’s not inappropriate? Or is it offensive to skunks?

2 hours ago, Bystander said:

No. This week's game on tv is carlton Collingwood. However, if you are not aware, all VFL games are broadcast on the AFL website.

Great , thanks! I’d forgotten about that.

Is this game available on any TV station?

Two instances of incredible football irony occurred last round.

1. Picket’s suspension because of the “Maynard rule.” Brayshaw(and Melbourne) suffered deeply when Maynard viciously poleaxed him in the final last year. ( no penalty). Picket’s indiscretion was in no way similar to Maynard’s, with absolutely no injury, but he’s suspended because he brushed the face after trying to spoil, and that’s the new rule. 

2. Carlton’s win after the obviously touched mark. We lost the final to them last year, because , in Q 2, Nibbler’s goal was disallowed due to replays suggesting possibly, but not definitely,the ball brushed  Marchbank’s finger.

Carlton and Collingwood don’t seem to realise how blessed they’ve been with recent controversial decisions.

He reminds me of Garry Hocking on appearance. Great if he plays like him!

11 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Not on TV. Was on screen on multiple occasions.

Saw it twice only on Foxtel

8 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I wondered the same thing as well. No replay at all. It was just such a blatant push in the back.

And the free kick count was kept under wraps.

10 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Generally speaking, Aussie Rules fans are far too parochial and critical of umpiring decisions. All you hear on Monday's after the weekend are so called fans whinging about umpires costing them the game. So much so that there is some conspiracy attached to it .

Mistakes are made and there will be inconsistencies like most sports. But Aussie Rules is so difficult to adjudicate. There is so much happening at one time. So much grey area. 36 players often in a confined space. There has been a trend of late in deliberately burrowing your head into an opponent, rugby league style. But how can you police it? Players duck their head all the time. We were taught as kids to burrow into packs to get the ball. I worry it just adds another layer of complication to an already difficult game to adjudicate.

But in the instance I've illustrated in the opening post, the Carlton player picked up the ball, saw an opponent approaching, and dived his head between the tackler's legs. (as mentioned above, very like the Viney incident in the 2021 GF, but there's more emphasis on head protection nowadays)

The umpire that gave Carlton the free just has no understanding of the game.  This was not a difficult adjudication....it was an egregious error.  If that error is repeated, serious injuries will inevitably follow.

Most umpiring mistakes are understandable and forgivable, but not an error as ignorant and significant as this.

I witnessed a shocking decision by the umpire in the North/Carlton game on Friday.

I have tried to attach a video of it below. The Carlton player received a free for "high contact".

I think this is worthy of being a new topic, since it is such an important digression from the AFL's determined efforts to lessen concussion injuries.

Surely the umpire must realise,that  by awarding a free to the player who is leading with his head, it will encourage players to adopt this method.  The result??? More concussions, even possibly a  broken neck.

That umpire should be dropped and forgotten. He has no understanding of basic football.

12 hours ago, Winners at last said:

Please refer to him by his correct title "that piece of sh@t Maynard"

I like his nickname….”Skunkhead”

8 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Ha ha ha 

 

Collingwood

 

 

Peter Moore would never have gone for that mark

On 11/03/2024 at 08:54, Ollie fan said:

I'm not sure of this thread is about defending against the switch, or proposing that we use it more. 
 

In terms of defence, all teams can get caught out by it if it is well done; that is why it is used. But our method is to use our fitness to switch sides in defence, in response. I think we do it pretty well, like most things in our defence system.

It’s about both.