leave it to deever

Opening round some big numbers but cost of living maybe? I wonder if mships are down.

I had hopes for Jvr to be a Curnow type player. May have over estimated him.

Carlton have a good backline as well as their fwd line. Does anyone know what happened to Hannan? Would have been a good replacement for Fritta.

I hope Sparrow is watching.

Harmes looking strong. We could use his muscle these days. 8 touches already.

Curnow really makes opponents panic.

How long is Curnow contracted for,? And back to dark mode can we also have a black and white mode that is blank during pies games.

I figured as much but really many to ask how to activate it. I hit a few buttons. Damn fat fingers.

Hey Lc what is dark mode. ( Other than my posting after a loss and our I50 entries).

This new site is great. All I ask is we bring back the thinking emoji reply. And possibly something that's detracting but less in your face like the vomit symbol for the more sensitive folk here. So yea somthing between that and the " what you talking about Willis,' vibe perhaps.

Ta my evil spirited matey. Yea my bad, I tagged you by mistake. The old peepers ain't what they used to be.

Thanks precious stone Jim . ( By the way, I've always been meaning to ask if you are related to our non shellfish eating friend Joe?). My wife doesn't appreciate footy donations so merch purchases work as does direct deposit. Shared c card. Oh what a tangled web,

Not a fan of PayPal that's all. I'll check for other options. I didn't check if I could donate re c card. I think I can buy a subscription so there's that. When it gets colder some merch like a hoodie perhaps . Not befitting for my age but that's the point. At a certain age a man starts to wear anything he wants to wear and no mercy for the fool who tries to tell him otherwise.

This new look and interface is much better. Is it possible to donate with direct deposit from a bank account? Demonland 's....Bsb and account number? Tx.

Thanks JVAM. Clearly your the person for the job for JV. Hopefully I will be more positive on the day. I think the Gws game was hugely disappointing because we were the better team and lost it in the proverbial last minutes. Great to see so many young players perform for us. Plus Giants are a top notch team. And we will see how North fare in a few months but it's the fumbles , poor tackles , low intensity , poor i50s delivery, inaccuracy, injuriesl...etc. They do seem have some gun ball getters and their ruck is a beast that humbled poor Max So it will be an interesting match one way or another . Another loss though will be hard to take and if it happens wait and hear for the noise in the media. It ont just be Demonland calling for Goodys blood. So let's hope we win. Big time.

This gave me a chuckle. I've been guilty of the odd angry post but I sometimes wonder if it's a prerequisite to be all riled up at some poor sod to be allowed here. Luckily as Demon's supporters, we are a pretty thick skinned bunch.

I think if we are all honest it's a little difficult to get excited about this game. Only two games in and we have unceremoniously lost both home games and are staring down the barrel of another one. It's a big call but not a stretch to say if we lose this, then our season is done and dusted. Huge response required and we will ultimately see what this club is made of and who are the players that are committed to the club. Go Dees. That's the most motivation I can muster. Hope the players can do more. Regardless we need as many supporters to this one as possible. It's one thing to get demolished by North Melbourne on our home turf but to get bested by GCS will be a disaster. I think that's fair. I fear what will happen if we turn up against a contender with the same mindset and skill level we had last Sunday. Alas everything is on the line now. And sure it's early days but these are games we have all foolishly it appears, pencilled in as wins. Well I did at least Silly me.

Thsnks DD. I think if we didn't have the ability to be a dynasty club ( gee I loved that show... probably beyond your time) we must have gone very, very close. And it was the perfect storm with most of our marque players circa 25 yo. I think you hit your prime at 25 to 27 as an AFL player and sustain it for three or four years. As such we our now seeing several players declining. However I think you maintain a lot of your skills and don't change too much to the age of 30. Then you do start to decline although in this day and age not as much . But of course the injuries hit. Look at May and Lever. I wonder if the game is faster and more taxing now? This would be a great thread. Players are protected a lot more today and not straining themselves as builders labourers on weekdays. But players are more focused on diet and fitness than yesteryear with a multitude of things and people to help them. As such they get to play longer than before . ( Fletcher at Essendon defied modern science). I also think they are more motivated too with the game being much more lucrative. Gone are the days when the bloke who unblocked your dunny was the same one you cheered on from the stands the next day. It's a million dollar a year job with some pretty good holiday weeks and perks. Last time I checked, I didn't get an os all paid for trip. Some even have token jobs in a business that just has their name in the lobby. And the sponsorships are a tad more lucrative than a packet of Footy franks on the occasional football show. Although as devil's advocate, I could say they'll need that cash for a rainy day and maybe l dodgy hip, knee, rotator cuff and ankle that comes apart every four years. So there's that. I do wonder if the temptation of offers and subsequent changes are hindrance to the dynasties we used to see? Again another thread perhaps. Loyalty although expensive, is available to be bought. (Hopefully that is as ironic as I meant it). Sadly for reasons I won't discuss, I think we have seen a few toy with the idea of leaving. Not a great thing for dynasties and especially for one's own club morale and motivation. But yea I think we had on this ( that included the three horseman of a generational All Australian Ruckmen and two of the best mids this club has ever seen) a chance to be one. And for reasons I mentioned here in other posts, we blew it. Plain and sadly, simple. Cheers DD. Ps I enjoy your posts.

The talent on our 2020, 21, 22 and 23 is extremely high. Probably one of the best for decade. The trio of Max, Oliver and Tracca in their best form was rightly the envy of the land. Our back line had a similar trio in Lever, May and Petty. Our fwd line had Tmac, BBB and Fritta. Our smalls in Snb, Spargo and Kozzie all managed over 30 goals each in 21. Halfbacks like Gus. In and under ball magnets like Viney. Our flanks were graced by players like Langdon. It's pretty damn good. I mean the talent was evidenced by almost two flags. It was just our fwd line letting us down. We just haven't had the fwd cattle to cover poor form and injuries. 23 saw no improvement on our failing fwd line. Last year saw our midfield fall apart. On Sunday we saw North Melbourne smash our once best defence in competition. Maybe your referring to a different time in which case please ignore this rant. Cheers DD.

He's definitely a lump of a bloke. Just over two inches taller than our Petty, he's just shy of 40 pounds in bulk than Harrison is. Interestingly that has not really translated to success at goal scoring. 2021 was an outstanding year for the man mountain but other than that he's really only averaged two goals per game and he's had a consistent number of them each seasons ( goals that is). Having said that with our lackluster bombing in delivery, I think someone like him would have at least helped the ball get to ground for our team of crumbers in Spargo, Anb Kozzie and Chin. As it's been, the opposition has often just put marked us there. Although Sparticus has fallen off for two years and Nibbler had gone so that's not good. Kozzie is often sidelined. At least Chin unusually showed up on Sunday . So all that is another problem of it's own. When we trialled Petty it showed how defenders don't easily become fwds. Defenders instincts are to spoil first rather than mark so it's easier for fwds to defend than the other way around. And as mentioned Petty just doesn't have the mass. Isaac Newton was no stooge if I do say so myself. As skilled as Fritta is, a decent gust can move him out of position. And Jvr while getting stronger is more your athletic type leading fwd and is better at chf than ff. That and the fact that we often play the poor bloke in the middle. What has the club been thinking? Grundy and Jackson left ages ago and we are still using one of our only two fwds to ruck. COMPLACENCY.

I think when you are talking about multiple flags you have to accept our club is different. To be clear,I think multiple flags was something we should have achieved. And we came exceptionally close in two seasons. In 23 but for losing one player, I think we would have done it. I do believe that after 56 years of no chocolates than it creates negativity and havoc that is hard to break. I mean we even had stock in the club being cursed. As silly as it sounds there have been seasoned supporters and probably people inside the club that believed we couldn't win a flag because some coach was unceremoniously removed decades ago. There is a saying that success is its own enemy in that it creates complacency. Or something like that. I do believe the club has been very complacent and not done the right amount of recruiting. Our current fwd line issues are not new. Anyway given that we broke one of the longest Afl droughts, we must applaud that. But we did for too long and while we competed hard all year in 21 so as to win two chances, our fwd line troops or lack of thereof and game plan ( complacency) let us down in those two critical games. 2023 SAW US AS CLOSE TO ANOTHER FLAG AS POSSIBLE. I mean we lost to those maggots by less than a goal not just because of Gus being knocked out but not having a suitable fwd to replace an aging Milkshake. COMPLACENCY. And then a few points to the Blues when we had a over dozen more scoring shots. How long was/ has inaccuracy been an issue? COMPLACENCY. So while we did have success, on balance we also failed probably more. ( How's that for a balanced answer). I mean club has been woeful in its recruitment of fwds. Even now we are still waiting for that same bloke in Melksham to return. Are we going to be pushing.poor Jake the snake out in his wheelchair in 56 years time to bolster our forward line? What is it going to take for the club to stop saying we have done all we can and looked everywhere? Have they? When does the proverbial penny drop and we say that the club failed to fix an issue? I believe that while great things were done, history could quite possibly say that the MFC let it's members down by not getting more than one flag from this list. And it's getting smaller each week. Just one decent big fwd recruited 4 years ago would have probably seen us with as much as three premierships. I think we all agree that the club has failed here. So ultimately who is the one to blame or how many? I don't know . I'm not trying to be a sa but I do genuinely think we have missed at least two golden opportunities and I want blood. I'm as mad as hell and I'll probably still take it., 😉 It's Melbourne. The greatest football club in the world. Well one decent 111 kg and six foot six tall forward type away from. And at least I don't follow Sydney. So there's that.

Yep this. And to make matters stranger we don't even have a big unit like the Crows have to stand strong in a pack to even take a mark. I mean if we had a big Tex down there that can put up his dukes in the middle of a pack and clunk a few thrn maybe we could look the other way sometimes. My kingdom for a another David Schwarz in our midst.

I fully agree that the delivery into our forward line is well below par. Has been for a long time now. We lost some finals where our i50 count was higher than our opponents. But our accuracy in kicking has been woeful too. We know who the main offenders are. Unfortunately Fritta used to be one of our most reliable set shots. But I think he's a real confidence player. He is not a traditional fwd. He's not a Tony Lockett example of brute force and he's not a small speedy Gonzales. He's got a good leap and he's great at timing his bumps so his small frame often accounts for moving larger ones. One on one in space, he is a defenders nightmare because he can turn on a dime and needs but a few milliseconds to get the ball onto his boot. He's often in the process of kicking while still turning. He has a great sense of where the goals are and he can often kick freakish goals from the boundary line. He also has great recovery skills after he goes for a mark. He has cat like skills to land on his feet and stay in contention. A perfect example was that gf goal when he and Max went up for the same grab. Fritta is a master of out the back goals. Problem is, as you alluded to, is our delivery. That example I just referenced was one where there was lots of space. Due to the nature of our game plan, teams now have plenty of time to flood our fwd line and therefore nullify Frittata's skills . I will watch him closer now that you have mentioned this. I hadn't noticed it. The big issue for me regarding Fritta is his lack of chasing and tackling. It's not a good look and he just doesn't seem to be giving his all. But the calls to trade him are wrong. He just needs to find his mojo. He has been our leading goal kicker for a while now and even though he hasn't heights of a Coleman, he's gone close in one season. And that's not bad given the way the ball has "delivered" into our fwd line.

I didn't want Tracc to go but now I'm of the mind that if any player doesn't want to be at this great club than adios. But let's trade as hard as can. No favors for anyone who doesn't want to win another flag for this club. Thanks for the memories but how do I say this....ummm... oh... yea....get lost. (Unless it's Max. Not saying is is though. Just saying. ....I love the bloke).