leave it to deever

When will my hatred of Cwood ever be rewarded?

Can't be any worst than Petty. That's a no brainier. And we get some ruck skills thrown in. It's now or never with Fullerton. I mean normally Petty would get the benefit of the doubt if he'd played a few bad ones. But they were more than bad I'm afraid. He's a proven quality player that either fluked a couple of very good forward games and or suffering from a clear lack of pre season conditioning. It's tempting to put him in the backline but Tmac deserves to stay.

Not tall enough up forward for me but I don't see what options we have after Petty's performances.

Some here believe Billings was very good. Probably a good ten minutes in the third helped us but I thought his use of the ball for the rest was poor.

You didn't mention our handballs which for me were at least just as bad. Players handballed like the pill like it was ticking inside. Honestly looked like many didn't want it or take responsibility with it. So many handballs just went up in the air and were intercepted or when they did find a player it was usually one in a more precarious position. Often done by a seasoned player too. There were too many instances at times when a player wasn't really looking in the right direction as the he attempted handball. Yes we are struggling to find a working forward line once again. How Fritta, Petty and Jvr got away with laying a total of 3 tackles between them v the lions. The shining star of last night at least was Turner. But our midfield is the most pressing issue at the min. It's been flat now for two weeks. Prior to that it was struggling to win clearances. And all of Maxy's great tap work was sharked by the opposition. Excluding Oliver who has had genuine injuries,( I thought he was ok), Viney wasn't sighted, Tracca only had a couple of cameos and Sparrow was or is rather the proverbial bridesmaid. Ultimately the sloppiness seemed contagious and begs the question of why. This is a team that just bagged two scalps in Adelaide Although the celebrations of those two wins was perhaps a tad too strong because we have clearly lost sight of the big picture since. But again there were over a dozen comprehensive flag 21 players on the track last night so it begs the question WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED. Im putting this out to all the seasoned and genuine knowledgeable posters of the game because I'm seriously baffled. And with all due respect please don't say we doubled their score because we were terrible. Many of our errant kicks were from no pressure acts by the opposition. Those couple of just poor out of bounds on the full and direct kicks to opposite players standing by their lonesome are evidence of a sub par performance. A good thing Richmond are just shot. How can we confidently face the cats next week? Sorry to dump this on you Binners. But I just want an attempted no nonsense fair critique. I think it's very naive not to be concerned after that in terms of us getting to a top four spot. To quote a line from that iconic Oz movie .." Tell em their dreaming." Maybe I should change my moniker to don't make me angrier. Cheers.

Interesting though that our backline is still one of the strongest around despite those outs you mentioned. It's our lack of depth on the middle and forward.....I would drop Sparrow but there is nobody to replace him with. I'd drop Jvr and Petty but again....

But who? Fritta maybe.

I imagine I'm not alone in feeling very flat after we doubled a teams score in a big crowd game.

From my admittedly vague memories as a youngster, it seemed that veterans like my pop from WW1 were afforded much more respect. My mom and dad would always serve him and my great Uncle Roy first at Sunday family dinners and festivals like Christmas etcetera. Not sure if was a custom or just gratitude but the deference is certainly remembered. Edit. Went to the morning service today at a memorial on Austinmer beach Nsw. ....on the Pacific coast 100 mins sth of Sydney. Quite haunting standing on the beach with three hundred others listening to the last post in the early morning light. I also allowed my sleepless mind to imagine having to go to war. I'll be honest the thought of it scared me to my core. More so the idea of my son being conscripted. I feel sorry for the current events in Europe. I'll also admit that I didn't know every WW1 serviceman volunteered. Over 400, 000 of them. Some even lied about their age. Having mentioned the level of respect my parents had, I mention my morning attendance because I was surprised how many young people were there. Lots of families with young kids but a fair few sleepy eyed teenagers and 20 somethings that I wouldn't think new much about it all. Very encouraging to see kids like that brace the clock and conditions to commerate the courageous men and women who have served this bloody great country. The reverence for them is still very much alive today. Also thanks very much to those who have shared stories here. Some beautiful but of course some devastating ones as well. I guess there really is no happy war story even for those who returned.

It was woeful because we all know that we can do better than that. To see stars and reputable players kick and handball like many of them did was horrible. Don't agree with Dunstall often but he referred to our team as in a malaise. Although we played better in the last we still looked off. Let's face it, if it was a top eight team the scores would have been reversed. This is a top four team of the last three years. I honestly don't understand how we can play like we have in the previous two games. But last night was much worse than the lions game. How do players like Tracc, Viney and even Lever and Max just kick under no pressure straight to opposite players? I thought Oliver was good despite a few hack kicks. At least he got the ball. Max. Always solid The backline saved us big time. And wowee what a gem we have in Turner. I'm genuinely interested in views as to how we were so bad. The handballing at times was so errant it looked as if nobody wanted the ball. There were over a dozen premiership players from three years ago . It's hard to explain. An anomaly that maybe can't be explained ? You have a good football brain BBO....what happened?

Clearly something is broken.

What happened?

Sparrow built like the proverbial... sometimes looks like he has got the goods but goes missing more often than not.

The irony is if I saw the final score line without watching the game, I would have assumed it was a good win on a big occasion. The reality was the worst game I've seen from us for a long time. Petty is a liability who has struggled to manage seven disposals in eight quarters. Has to be dropped. Sparrow. ...When will he really step up? Someone said Billings was good. He played an ok third quarter but the rest of the game was lackluster for mine. His disposal was like so many players, poor. It's hard though because so many of our players were down including Tracca whose handballs were terrible and Viney who was mia. I can't account for such fundamental errors by so many so often. Players looked like they didn't want the pill the way they couldn't wait to get rid of it. We seriously looked like it was a Praccy fun game out for most of it. Hopefully Bbb can take Pettys spot. Maybe Laurie for Woey. Or surely young k brown a run. It's really hard to not think the cats will devour us. I thought Laurie on was a mistake but he played well. Disco has to be our go to fwd after that. Thank goodness for him. Maybe our midfield will get on its bike and start performing. Although I thought Oliver wasn't too bad especially after he just had an operation. No excuses for the others. I hope Jvr can start marking again too.

That was swill that game. How we won by doubling their score I'm sure I'll never know. From the get go, kicking out on the full, missing set shots, kicking straight to Richmond player without any pressure on the kicker and worst of all the majority of our hand balls didn't go anywhere . I'm sure we couldn't have played more poorly. In the end we banged through some goals with better connection but there was still some sloppiness. How poor are poor Richmond. Petty out for sure. Sparrow too. I seriously think that was one of our worst efforts in at least the last five years. Next week we play an unbeaten Geelong. We are in for a tough time.

Thank goodness for Disco. That's about all from tonight.

I would have been stoked with a 44 point win and doubling their score but I feel somewhat disappointed. In fact very. Our first three quarters were so sloppy. Skill errors like it was happy hour We've doubled their score but I don't feel we are anywhere near top four at all. AT least we've discovered a new fwd weapon in Disco .

Are they Bronx cheers for Petty? Adelaide will be offering us diddly squat now.

Again.

Laurie with two. Bizarro world.

I think Goody really needs to sit down with a few after tonight and tell them not to play outside of themselves. To go back to basics if your struggling. And many of them are. Let's be honest. Traccas handballs have gone straight to a tigers player so many times. Petty needs to be dropped. At least we have Disco to play fwd. Sparrow too. And he's certainly not alone. Thank goodness we are playing Richmond who are a poor team . Well probably win by fifty now.

Turner absolutely showing so many of his teammates how it's done.

Goody should just drag Sparrow for that. It should be unacceptable. Let them know.

I reckon 60 percent of our handballs have resulted in turnovers tonight. Would have taken Woey off . Windsor just goaled.

Probably Viney too.