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    3 minutes ago, binman said:

    My issue is how could goody arrive at the decision to pick him ? 

    We had a near full list to choose from. And we pick a player not in shape. And a third tall firward to boot.

    I simply don't understand.

    Some possibilities:

    Tommy is still good enough, but the coach is useless

    Tommy is out of form, and the coach is useless

    Tommy is injured, and the coach is useless

    Tommy isn't up to it any more, and the coach is useless

     

    Needs a better football mind than mine to know for sure which of these scenarios is the right one. Food for thought ...

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    10 minutes ago, Pates said:

    Fox Footy just showed footage from Round 1 last year with Gawn getting targeted, I hope this has been reviewed and they're ready for it.

    Don't worry. If they try that again, and again early in 2021, our coaches will absolutely take notice and begin the process of commencing to start preparing to plan to counter.

    1 hour ago, Pates said:

    He definitely was trying to pass it to Langdon, but in that instance the umpire has no choice because the interpretation of the rule is tighter. They would look at it that Nev had not done enough to keep it in, they would also have probably imagined that even if that was his intention, in the moment he was keener to get the ball out. 

     

    1 hour ago, sue said:

    I don't see how that 'rule' applies when it is argued he was trying to kick it to Langdon's advantage.

     

    The crazy part is, they are rigorous in their application of that one rule, yet allow rampant throwing, holding, dropping, short kicks, etc.

    Which is the biggest blight on the game? But OOB is what they clamp down on.

    Not to mention they have to read a player's mind to make the right call in a contentious moment like that.

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    1 hour ago, Mel Bourne said:

    Reading the OP’s description of the play, the first thing I thought was how confusing the umpire’s directions would have been for two people who are both called “Bailey”. 

    The umps probably spend all their training time learning crucial details like the players' names, rather than studying what constitutes holding the ball, prohibited contact, correct disposal, how far is 15m, and other trivialities.

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    1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Glass houses - who else might have been cheating the salary cap in the late 80's? I doubt it was confined to the Hawks.

    I think you'll find it restricted to only around 14 clubs, and maybe only 13 as Fitzroy were in a position where they could only dream of paying outside the cap.

    Imagine an umpires director who was as proactive and in search of incremental excellence as much as, say, Clarkson or Chris Scott are towards their teams of players.

    Unfortunately we'll have to imagine it, because previous umpires directors have not even known the rules of the game, and the current one seems to pay more attention to the needs of Channel 7 than the game he's custodian of.

    We always suspected the umpiring was arbitrary and random, but now science has proven it!

     

    Brisbane were smarter than us at slowing down and annoying the oppo, and yesterday it worked for them. Another day, it won't, and then they'll be flooding bigfooty and facebook with outrage.

    I don't mind them trying it on ... we should be doing more of that given the uselessness of the umpiring generally ... but in the big picture, all it does is illustrate how awful the umpiring has been this year.

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    4 minutes ago, sue said:

    I haven't seen that Deliberate OoB free discussed.  But I disagree.  Seems to me he was trying to kick it hard a fair way to his left to allow Langdon(?) who was in front of his opponent to run onto it, but accidentally it went far too straight and OoB.   I cannot believe that any player would have such a big brain fade that hard that far from the boundary.   Unfortunately it's unlikely an ump could avoid paying the free.

    In wet conditions it was a reasonable thing to try (get it to Langdon without risking picking it up in the teeth of goal).

    The crazy thing is, the deliberate OOB rule is the only one enforced with any rigour in the whole competition!

    And why? Deliberate OOB is hardly turning people off the game like throwing the ball, and  holding the ball. AFL has it backwards.

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    1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    What does "unduly pushes or bumps an opposition player" - and in particular the word "unduly" - mean? It can't mean either Prohibited Contact (which I assume is a defined term elsewhere likely to include high contact and arm chopping) or engaging in Rough Conduct (which I assume is also a defined expression) as both those forms of contact are addressed in (e) and (f).

     

    19 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    Just on one point, what does unduly mean?

     

    Like many things in the rules of the game, "unduly" is not defined. The rules are a dogs breakfast. Poorly written and full of clauses describing circumstances that are commonly understood by fans, but in fact are near jibberish.

    (Prohibited Contact and Rough Conduct are defined and mean pretty much what you would intuitively guess.)

    35 minutes ago, sue said:

    Frisch 50m penalty.  Maybe I need to see it again, but as I heard it, the umpire say give it back now and Frisch did immediately  Now maybe he had ignored the umpire earlier, but what is the point of saying give it back now, if when the player does just that, you ping the player?

    It's the year 2050 and Denmark are playing South Africa in the final of the Australian Rules Football World Cup. The umpires are from Japan and don't speak English. But that doesn't matter as the only noises they make are from their whistles blowing. Everything else they do with hand signals: holding the ball, all clear, etc. The players are accustomed to this and are not fazed in the slightest.

    It always amazes me why the umpires need to say one damn word. Maybe "play on" but even that's not needed. "Advantage", maybe.

    Player doesn't give ball back? Whistle. Free kick. Player doesn't go back on the mark? Whistle. 50 metres. The players will learn pretty quick smart. This constant advice and coaching to the players is rubbish and doesn't exist in any other sport. Well, we do say our game is unique.

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    35 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Goodwin said they were better than us at getting the '''loose ball' out at stoppages.   Given that it was obvious what their midfield tactics would be why did we not have a counter strategy from the get go? 

    I reckon Goodwin must be a James Bond fan. “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

    Goodwin knows if an opposition coach does a number on him three times in a row, then by golly, something is afoot and counter measures need to be taken.

    I think we're up to two with Fagan and the Bears. So by this time next year we should be ready to try some kind of counter. Looking forward to that!

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    It gets worse year on year. The umps literally do not know what they're doing any more. The rule book might as well be the rule book for tennis for all the relevance it has.

    The direction given the umps since Geischen (and probably before that) is pathetic and apparently based on some imaginary idea (certainly not written down) about what the game "should" "look like".

    When the umpires directors clearly do not know the rules themselves, and get on the radio after a contentious weekend with ridiculous rationales for inexplicable decisions, is it any wonder the umps end up behaving as if directionless, and make decisions that defy reason? Because they are directionless.

    It's killing the game slowly --  yes, there are more factors, but this is definitely one.

    It would seriously be better if it went back to the captains adjudicating.

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    15 minutes ago, Gunna’s said:

    ponder this ? 
    Both the kick for a mark and the distance a player can run before bouncing is about 15m. 
     

    I see this in every game, every week.

     

    Kick a miniscule distance = mark. Run that same distance = no problem.

     

    The umps either don't train for this, or are told not to worry about it.

    Either way it's B*LLSH!T

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    6 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

    Brayshaw is a mile off it at the moment. At one point Viney looked at him for a handpass and decided to go it alone.

    "Hmmm ... I'm a lousy kick. But I might just ... I mean law of averages and everything ... get it to a teammate. but Gus ... he'll just [censored] it up."

    The lightning reflexes of the modern AFL player!

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    1 minute ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

    Those last few minutes, the umpires did everything but kick the ball themselves to prevent us from scoring again.  Inexcusable. 

    I spoke to Steve Hocking after the game, who disagreed. Although he did ask for clarification as to which ones were the umpires, and what sport was being played.

     

    Bearing in mind the umpires don't know the rules they're refereeing to, it was a pretty good go. Walk a mile in their shoes: what if you were asked to referee a sport where you didn't know what you were supposed to do? If they get some guidance from higher ups at some stage, they might give it a really good shot eventually.

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    7 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    He stuffed around with it to make sure we could get set up behind the ball, but yes, he went a step too far and it hurt us in that situation.

     

    7 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

    Fritta should be dropped for that 50, inexcusable. 

    Players in all teams are coached to faff around and waste time, because the coaches know the umps are directionless and susceptible and useless.

    One in 20, the umps will call it according to the actual rules. It's well worth the gamble. We lost the raffle.

     

    4 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

    If they’re gonna call that one against Fritsch then pay the four previous ones where Brisbane held it up, they have gotta be consistent.

    Consistent? (Light laughter.) Watch snooker if you want consistency. Or any other sport, really. But not AFL football.

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    Well, the Brions threw the kitchen sink at us. But the one thing MFC has over every other team ... the ONE THING ... is that we are the masters of frenetic chaos ball. So they tried to take us on at our own game. Credit where credit's due. They outdid us at that today.

    Tried to rough up Gawn too. That's so 2019! But Max didn't have that much impact. So again, points to the Brions. They planned for this and it worked. What did our coaches plan for?

    Brions are a well drilled team ... they have someone in position for every circumstance. In trouble? Kick wide, someone will be there.

    It's understood that we have very little system. But taking that into consideration, ultimately, the difference between the teams? Ball handling. Ours just a bit off. Whether due to pressure, or we're simply not that skilled ... (I think I know which one to choose).

    Sorry to say, Gus is now a liability. Is he a contributor? For every contribution, there are two [censored]ups. Either a fumble, a kick that's too high, a missed possession ... back to the twos, Gus.

    Jackson kid ... knows where to go, what to do. With some experience, will be a weapon. Unless it's Goodwined out of him. Here's hoping.

    Goddamn. The umps don't know what they're doing ... they are so lost ... "15" metre kicks ... incorrect disposal ... inexplicable decisions ... this is broken record stuff ... every week, every match. Is anyone in charge of the umpires department? AFL might like to consider putting someone in a role like that.

    Seriously ... they are so bad, it should be a scandal ... every contest is a randomised outcome of free for, free against, or no decision, regardless of what actually takes place. In every match, not just MFC ones.

    Congrats to the Brions, and if our coaches have any idea at all, they will learn from this and improve our side. I don't have much faith in them doing that.

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    5 minutes ago, MaysSoreGroin said:

    How the F is that 15m, and that one, and that one, and that one?

    When the umpires department is led by incompetents, every kick looks further than 15m

    3 minutes ago, Ham said:

    Melbourne need to ask for a please explain by the AFL for this terrible umpiring.

    Hate to disappoint, but it's like this every match, every week. A crisis, ignored by the AFL brass because ???? who the [censored] can work out what they're thinking.

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