Deemonator

On 20 April 2016 at 1:34 PM, Diamond said:

It'd be nice but irrelevant apart from development. Top four has to be the aim of all clubs. Unlikely anyone will win a premiership from 5-8th position at the end of the H&W season.

I think for the first time in many years we've seen the gap tighten between the quality of teams in the eight. Obviously a top four finish is every teams aim but i wouldn't be surprised if a Hawthorn finishes 5th or 6th this year and wins it.

I think we will be very competitive today but North will eventually be too good and win by 3 or 4 goals. Really need Kent and VDB to dial up the forward pressure ( and get more of the ball) in the absence of Jeffy. I think both these players need to lift massively or they will soon find their way of the team. 

47 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I cant this week

Can anyone do a summary please

Was about a 30 second clip where you could see the the two forwards do a lot of blocking for each other and intelligent leading to ultimately give Jesse a mismatch on Marchbank instead of Davis. Was interesting.

Top post but i don't how you can count CP5 as one of our three stars when he hasn't played a game yet. 

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

As with any player that leaves us. If they weren't performing or had "issues" I really couldn't care where they go or how they go. Only that they go.

Narky I know. That's me

Hey Beelzebub, just saying i really like your posts and all but was just wondering, is your pursuit of happiness and catching it relying on our beloved football club having the ultimate success?

1 hour ago, Curry & Beer said:

betcha he becomes handy, Stefan Martin style

How much do you want to bet?

8 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Think what we would say if Hogan decided to take a leave of absence because he was too homesick, but we didn't wanna trade him

I'm all for playing hardball with your best players, but if McCartney was so hell bent on leaving for home, and GWS refused, what have they actually gained? 
They are clearly not likely to convince him to stay, and if they thought otherwise, they are obviously delusional. 

After the Tom Boyd saga, what they have gained is sending out a message that their not letting their best talents go home after one year. GWS will get burnt in this saga, but what sort of message would it be sending to current players and prospective players if they gave in to McCarthey last year.

6 minutes ago, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

Because Jon O'Rourke and Lachie Plowman are going so much better?

GWS didn't draft South Australian's as a rule, they didn't risk Wingard going home and that looks a bad decision. They've made many.

The best way to stop stuffing up high draft picks is to stop having high draft picks.

Can't argue with that. Just goes to show how hard it is, even with all the research and information that the modern recruiter is armed with, to nail top draft picks.

12 minutes ago, stuie said:

If only you'd been there to tell all the professional recruiters what a mistake they were making...

 

Someone must have told the GWS recruiters....

1 hour ago, CBDees said:

The obvious answer is obviously two leagues of eight teams each and a Final Four in each league. To ensure relegation/promotion is interesting, l would start with Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, etc, initially starting in the "B League" with GWS, Freo, Gold Coast, Dees, and others who need practice playing Premierships, comprising the inaugural "A League". With promotion of only one "B League" team occurring annually, we may see a slight adjustment of egos and the order of things whilst Collingwood and Essendon fight out their minor Premiership and we try and locate the key to our cabinet which stores the Premiership Cups for the real thing.

I like it but what happens to two current teams. What i would do would be to split the league into two divisions based on ladder position.

Every year two teams get promoted/relegated.

 After playing everyone twice. the team on top of the ladder in division 1 is automatically promoted to the premiership. The remaining eight teams play a normal final eight with the winners winning promotion.

Bottom four teams go into a lottery system for the draft so their is no(or little as possible) tanking.

The team finishing 9th in the Premiership automatically relegated. The final eight battle it out for the flag although the two losers in the Elimination Finals play off to see who else is down to division 1.

I know  a system like this would never be approved by the general football public but at the very least each team would get to play each other twice and it would hopefully make each game more competitive with not as many blowouts. 

5 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

the reason some of us are condemning the club is because they obviously didn't do their job and predict he would be rubbed out for a year. You can talk for 1000 years and you will never convince me that they expected it to happen, and that they would have gone ahead with the deal anyway, had they known. That means it's a large stuff up. The new regime hasn't made many but this is a howler.

I don't think many people in the inner circle of the afl or the outer saw the severity of the outcome coming. At the end of the day we have a player who will be a good contributor to the MFC albeit not until 2017 though.

As their has been a lot of speculation (especially after the essendon verdict) wether we should have kept our 2nd round pick this year, i thought i would check our recent history of what we have done with this pick over the recent seasons. Only players picked in 2nd round, not taking into consideration priority picks and expansion team extra picks. Rating System: Good,Pass and Bad. N/A = traded out pick.

2014- Alex Neal-Bullen pick 40  11games. Good 1st Season but too early to rate.

2013 N/A

2012 Jack Viney (f/s) pick 26  49 games. GOOD

2011 Rory Taggert pick 36  0 games. Bad

2010 Jeremy Howe pick 33 100 games. Good

2009 Luke Tapscott pick 18 48 games. Bad

2008 James Strauss pick 19 24 games. Bad

2007 Adam Maric pick 21 31 games. Bad

2006 Ricky Pettard pick 30 84 games. Pass

2005 N/A

2004 N/A

2003 N/A

2002 Jared Rivers pick 26 194 games. Good

So since 2013 and going back to 2002 , we have traded out our 2nd rounder 4 times, made three good picks, 1 ok pick and 4 bad ones. About a 50% chance to get a 100 game player out of the draft with our second pick. We should still get 100 games out of Melksham so although the trade looks damning, it won't be the worse bit of business that the footy department has conducted.