At the break of Gawn

21 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’d be disgusted if we are low balling our captain and a champion who has stood by this rabble of a club for all these years. I think one year is fair, but FFS the last thing we need right now is media noise about our own captain being unhappy with his contract offer. Get it sorted fast. This [censored] would never happen under Jackson. 

To think how much money we have payed absolute garbage players over the years... no wonder Jones is annoyed. Deserves a hell of a lot better. 

This season truly can’t end soon enough. 

I truly can’t match this outrage based on the whole fact he’s just not that good. He’s not Scott Pendlebury. He’s never even won any form of recognition outside this club (no AA). He’d be in the bottom 4 of captains in the league (along with his co captain)

I’d give him a performance based contract; every effective kick that hits a target he gets $1000. He’ll be lucky to get $100k next year.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes it is time for an external review. 

Last night was so predictable, i knew before the game started when the fade would start

it’s not about opposition. It’s all about us

Absolutely have to do a whole club review now. What has gone wrong? Injuries are a transient issue of the AFL. Our problem runs much deeper.

I really hope the media jump on us this week. This club needs a heap of heat on it to force its hand and do a full blown review. 

Although it’s our home game, I think we’ll be outnumbered 10-1 in supporters. Whatever we gained from last year’s season in terms of our supporters attendance, we’ve receded it back to 2015.

26 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

We've tried Frost forward before. Not good. Let's keep him where he plays best: back.

He's had a vastly improved year, despite some brain fades and a couple of poor games.

Frost needs to take a leaf out of what Chip Frawley did. Stopped trying to do smart dinky/short kicks and just chose safe options when he has ball in hand. He has to know his limitations. Intercept the ball and then just kick it long boundary side.

Says a lot.

No improvement tonight at all. Goody better not use the improvement line. 

Won’t win another game this year.

1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

...can [censored] off, already 

It’s not just 2019. This is the new standard. Expect it in 2020.

Their tackling has killed us. Just a rubbish side we are.

80 something points conceded on turn over.

another last qtr fade out. Just [censored] off

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

And this is why Oscar McDonald is a spud of s footballer.. 

Simply just lets his opponent get a free run at the footy.

GTFO you [censored] spud

That was just disgraceful from him. It is an indictment on the match committee that he is selected.

Losing:

contested possessions

uncontested possessions

inside 50s

tackles

marks inside 50

Players are going to be exhausted with all this back and forth. Cue a last qtr overrun

Omac actually does look slightly bigger.

I'd prefer just the Alice game and make it against the Gold Coast Suns each year. 

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Jack Watts.

A great example of the FD offloading a highly skilled player (what we need right now) and retaining players "with a competitive edge" (like AnB) who actually costs us games of football. 

35 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Strong rebuttal.

Did he or did he not play a role in selecting coaches without being a long term commitment?

Did he or did he not coach international rules and some junior teams, tease interest in AFL coaching and then not pursue it? 

It's his life, he can do what he wants, I don't blame him or wish him ill will but his media credentials are as a former champion player and as a good tv personality from his footy show days. He doesn't have a coaching background, doesn't have an administration background to give him some analytical skills or even a recent playing career.

He hasn't actively been involved with an AFL club in anything more than a brief capacity for a long time now. When he commentates games he'll have some decent ideas - man up on good player X, stop kicking it to player Y, run harder, tackle better - and he's usually correct. He's also a professional at knowing when to talk, when to shut up etc. That alone puts him comfortably in the better AFL media personalities, but you rarely watch On the Couch or a Lyon commentated game and come away with greater understanding about the game.

Derm talks crap 90% of the time but he has 10% commentary gold where you can learn something about a player. David King is 95% hyperbole and rubbish stats but every now and then Champion Data slip him a stat that matters. Gaz is perfectly decent but entirely unremarkable. 

Have to agree with this. Lyon makes his comments purely based off emotional reasoning, e.g. "they showed no fight", and often overlooks the tactical reasons as to why we lost the game. 

Roos said his piece at the start. Focused on what Melbourne supporters would like to see in the last 5 rounds. 

Lyon just wanted to get that off his chest and probably shared the sentiment of a lot of Melbourne supporters. Calling last year an aberration is a big call from Lyon.

We have to go out and beat the Saints this Saturday night. If we don’t, there’s no way we’re going into next year with a level of positivity.

He'll be a FT media person next year as well as working on his Wine business. 

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

How many Prelims have those teams made in the last 12 months?

Making a prelim doesn’t excuse anything. Grant Thomas got sacked after making the finals. Ratten took the Blues to the finals the previous 3 years and got sacked (which in hindsight was bad).

Goodwin’s Record will be below 50% after this season ends. If we fail to make finals next year I can’t see him surviving.

Objectively speaking, Dees are the wooden spooners this year. You can’t really count the GC Suns with all their club issues. 

6 minutes ago, Dame Gaga said:

So Glouftis was dropped in May this year following a string of poor decisions, including two crucial errors in the St Kilda v WEST COAST clash which resulted in two goals to the EAGLES.

In 2017 Donlon gave a controversial decision when he awarded a free kick to Luke Shuey which then saw him kick the winning goal for the EAGLES after the siren against Port. The following week he wasn't given any finals games despite being an experienced umpire of over 200 games officiated.

These are the umpires which are sent to officiate the Alice game. Thanks a lot AFL. No quality for a team like the lowly Melbourne. 

It’s well known that the poorer umpires get the least popular time slots (such as Sunday). Get used to it, because we’ll get a heap of Sunday games next year and we’ll be lucky to get one Friday night.

Just now, bing181 said:

Preuss.

Laughable that some on here questioned the FD’s decision not to pick him earlier this season. The least fittest bloke on our list by a mile. Todd Viney would have beaten him in the 3km time trial.

3 minutes ago, olisik said:

Our 4th Quarter fitness is an indictment on Missons tenure at the Dees. 

Hands down our biggest issue.

The Petty experiment is over. 

That qtr was a microcosm of our season.