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8 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

We need to get rid of one of them, no question about it. Between the two, I’d probably keep Petracca because he clearly has more upside and can still turn games around when he’s on. He’s shown glimpses of brilliance, and there’s still some to tap into. Oliver has been seriously underwhelming. He hasn’t been close to the level we expect from him—not even remotely. His form has been [censored], no question about it and he’s just not contributing in the way he should be. Honestly, I’d even be willing to pay a portion of his salary just to get him off the books and onto another team. It’s harsh, but we can’t afford to carry passengers if we want to move forward., and he’s just not contributing in the way he should be.

Fair points, but not sure I agree.

Trac doesn’t put his body in (perhaps fair) a huge limitation if he’s going to play like Danger into his 30s. He hasn’t quite reached the extremity of his potential imo.

Conversely Clarry is the player that won all our BnFs for a reason. He has a mind that pushes him to win.

I’d keep both. What teams have traded their best talents in their prime years and ever worked out??

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I'm now convinced they won't be around next year.

Clarry after 23 wanted out to the Crows after his hamstring problems.

Clarry might not have been in a good head space but he wanted out.

The Crows after hearing differing stories on Clarry and decided to bauk at our ask price of 2x 1st rounders.

They've straighten him back up now got him to his 200th game, Maxy has toured him around doing sportsmans nights to earn some extra coin from 2021 GF stories.

So he will be on his way on better terms with the club and he'll go into another environment (Cats) get the eye of the tiger back, strip some weight off, become rock hard Clarry again and start killing it.

Different story with Christian the offer that came in for him from the Pies last year was insulting as far as the club were concerned.

Club would have sat him down and told him get yourself right no need to come to club BNF (which I didn't agree with) get your fitness back, find a bit of form, let the club steady the ship, show to the Demon faithful you are on board.

Play your 200th and make peace with the club and leave on good terms when a better offer arrives from another club next year e.g Hawks.

Everyone walks away with a happy outcome and both are welcomed back in 5.5 years time for the GF reunion in 2031.

Trac didn’t want to attend the BnF and used his AZ training as an excuse. The club should’ve made him attend.

Ultimately that’s a lack of maturity of both sides.

I agree Clarry at the Cats will send him back to his awesome best. As Smith said, “the Cats let the players play to their strengths”… Sometimes it’s not that hard Goody.

And we would get nothing in return. That will be the heartbreaking outcome the media will push.

So they both need to stay. The culture (horrible word) needs to grow the f up.

TOO LATE.

Next year is big or bust. The fallout or vindication.

TOO LATE.

We’ve doubled down on all of them, Goodwin too. Trac and Oliver were champions and need to get back to their best.

The young need Trac and Oliver to learn from. We’ve made this mistake before.

Can’t sell our best players at their lowest value. Forget it.

4 minutes ago, Flower Magic said:

Rush KC is a much better bet than Anderson, who has lost most of the appeals he has run.

I like his style, going in hard:

“Rush (Dees): To say the player is negligent because a ball may or may not bounce in a particular way is... I won't use the word I was going to say. It's totally unreasonable.”

Just now, dees189227 said:

Spargo our sub

Surely agreeable to all here…

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Perkins could be a really good player - Essendon have mismanaged his development.

Pies recruiting been OK - they did pay a lot of $$$$ for Perryman and Houston fell into their lap as he wanted us then Carlton but ended up at Pies. Not been fantastic so far. Schultz their supporters hated until a few weeks ago and most of the others were free hits.

Agree on Perkins, he’s a smart target

1 minute ago, demon3165 said:

So, the umpires are to blame for a poorly skilled side by hand and foot; a side that struggles with football nous and a game plan that's not working. But it's the umpires' fault, they make fewer mistakes than players. It's time to drop Salem, revamp the midfield, and persist with it for the last five games. As for Jefferson, yes, he had some bad moments, but give him the last five games to confirm whether he can make it. In the end, this club needs to make some serious decisions at season's end, and it must take the hard decisions to fix it.

I’m with you… but Salem? He was ok tonight. He’s had solid games this year.

3 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Exactly. Have any of these morons calling for the coaches head seen the stats? Did they actually watch the game? That was appalling umpiring.

I watched the game.

I see a better group of players who are confused with a failing system. Often flat footed and unsure. Champions like Trac having little influence.

I think we missed the chance to fire Goodwin, he’s staying. But my God he needs to get more out of the potential of this list. Make no mistake, he’s failing.

What are you seeing?

3 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Howes playing. Tom Campbell and TMc not playing.

One of them carry over? Late change as well?

TMac in for May

11 minutes ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

The good news—we’re not dead for 2026 yet.

Not sure about that honestly!

7 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Congratulations to Kozzie Pickett and MFC for getting this deal done, speaks volumes for Kozzie and everyone involved at the club. We can all relax now and enjoy the rest of Kozzie’s amazing career unfurl in the mighty Red and Blue. Kozzie, Kozzie, Kozzie, OIe, OIe, OIe.

Kossie, Kozzy, Kozi !

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Also lol at calling Trac timid. You almost die playing footy, and then tell someone off for not wanting to do it all over again.

It’s frankly a miracle that he’s back to this level of intensity so soon after that horrible injury. Most players would never be the same.

And playing in a game where it happened, would have brought back a lot of trauma.

Sometimes I swear people think players are robots.

I’m not telling Trac off. That would be ludicrous. It was an observation that he’s still not fully confident.

I could’ve put in the positive rather than the negative, fair enough.

There’s just a huge challenge when two of the best ever MFC players are at peak age and not at peak output.

As good as Windsor, X, Langford etc might be… I’m not sure they’re Clarry and Trac level prodigious.

6 hours ago, BDA said:

Clarry showed great desperation. He extracted the ball on a number of occasions yesterday like the Clarry of old. He's definitely on the right track again

However, he is not and never will be a good user

Compare Trac to Pendles or Sidebottom. He's brilliant at getting his hands on the ball but panics way too easily for an elite footballer. and he's not a good user either

Pendlebury is an amazing player. time seems to stand still when he has the ball in his hands.

Completely agree.

Clarry was most damaging when he’d take a few burst steps before disposal.

I feel like he’s not far away but that last few percent are the hardest to find.

I see Trac as still being too timid.

40 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

at least one change with viney. iam hoping brown gets a game as well but goody has his favs and probably wont happen, also as others have said keep bailey the sub for a week or two more it really suited him well, he provided as much pressure in that last qtr then he has in his whole career

If Spargo stays then I suspect he'll be sub, it's the punishment role with an opportunity to prove yourself before dropped.

Agree about Brown, he'll get a chance but not this week. Maybe next week in Alice could suit.

31 minutes ago, old dee said:

What is the reason he should be in other your desire to have him in? He played half a game after 2 months out injured which involved surgery. It is not a must final. I agree sharp isn't!

I'm somewhat cheating with my confidence, as Lever is fronting the media to discuss the game and his likely return.
The MFC wouldn't allow that, unless it's some strange bluff, but we've never done that previously.

I personally also rate him as a player and leader highly enough to come straight back in.

Sharp, I'm so disappointed by him. He's still young so maybe there's improvement to come.

Just now, binman said:

Yes, but its not as wide - i think its something like 5 meters less.

So 5 meters shorter and 5 meters narrower meaning the surface area of the SCG is smaller than the G which has an impact on the ability of teams to spread and is a big factor in how congested matches are at the SCG which in turn impacts scoring.

I haven't had a chance to double check this data, so take this with a grain of AI salt, but according to Copilot:

Summary Comparison

Stadium	Avg. Total Score (Last 10 Seasons)
MCG	188.5 points
SCG	177.0 points

This difference reflects the slightly more expansive playing conditions at the MCG, which can lead to higher scoring games.

Isn't there a conspiracy that their 50m rulers are a little questionable?

13 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

one needs to go or lever stays out again i think the latter

No way Lever isn't in. Expecting Viney in too.

Two changes is maximum you'd think.
Sharp is certainly out. No idea who the other will be... probably AJ

25 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

read on the afl app that berry got subbed off with a head clash, anyone watching the game was it bad enough for him to miss next week or be ruled out w concussion?

Yes, concussed for sure. Will miss

13 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Who is better than last year?

Oliver !

To be fair, the team isn’t performing so individually it’s more challenging.

But Chandler is having career best. Kossie is a star, having him in the midfield is electric. Bowey!! He’s been magnificent. Turner is breaking out. Sparrow is performing well. Then Gawn is a master. TMac is massively underrated, great year. Salem has been solid.

Who’s gone backwards?

I’m sure it’s been mentioned - but what a great moment when Oliver received the ball on the burst in the first. The crowd was awesome and the kick to Sparrow was perfect.

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

I admire your positivity. No mention of Jefferson?

Haven’t seen enough to say.

Wasn’t super excited when we drafted him, don’t really know what he’s meant to become?

Just looking it up, 2022 wasn’t exactly a super draft.

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

Binman! Do you now see where my negative attitude s stems from? Your two CPF's had blinders again. Sorry but I could not help myself. To all those who think we have a good team need to open their eyes. We need at minimum a 2 year rebuild of our forward line. Jefferson, JVR and Fullerton will not take us into finals ever.

Clearly I’m typing with eyes closed. We were the better team.

JVR looks everything he should be, just can’t break out. I see it as just a matter of time and when he does, it will stick.

Oliver has a journey back but I believe in him 1000%, just hope it’s with us. Trac, Gawn. Gods. The youth are incredible, Lindsay was excellent, Langford sublime. Windsor set himself a high standard. Kolt should’ve started. There’s a lot of improvement from McVee. Fritch was playing on Sicily which is no small task, thought he did ok.

Honestly, it seems like a team that should be contending. That’s my frustration, the chemistry isn’t chemisting.

We were the better team. This kind of loss shouldn’t matter.

JVR has a great many attributes, seems to be overthinking and over-trying. That’s the pressure of AFL. Give the kid time.

And Jeffo, he’s young, I don’t know why people pile on @picket fence for supporting the kid. I hope he becomes a massive gun for us and Pickett never lets us forget that he was always a believer!

8 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I just like to say sorry to T.Mac having a great year. I wanted to put a line through him when we were losing I was wrong. What are the odds for Gawn to win the brownlow? Last 4 weeks have been sublime. Langford, Rivers and Chandler in top form too. Melksham was great too should not be suspended he bumped him in the back not pushed him in the back. I think if Oliver is right to go he should play in the 2's just to take the pressure off him.

IN: van Rooyen

OUT: Petty

B: Bowey, May, McVee

HB: Salem, McDonald, Rivers

C: Langdon, Langford, Windsor

HF: Petracca, van Rooyen, Chandler

F: Fritsch, Turner, Melksham

FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Pickett

IC: Lindsay, Sparrow, Tholstrup, Spargo

SUB: Sharp

You had me with “sorry TMac”.

Totally lost me with “Clarry playing in the 2’s”

6 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

What a stupid article. What is the point of further examining a trade that didn’t eventuate.

Maybe it’s another Geelong attempt to create some disharmony within the club and pick up a bargain in Oliver.

What a garbage article.

Geel get to pay Oliver 850k. Good for them.

While we’d “save” 1m by not having him?

What kind of stupidity would that trade be?