joeboy

What a dog of a player he was, one of the dirtiest I've seen. Hated him with a passion after he whacked Smith in front of me.

Would love to have him as coach, badly wanted him to replace Bailey.

A little ironic that you'd be decrying his tactics , whilst feting a total ball player with your name here- Grinter was far from an angel for all those too young to recall.

And for the record , I advocated Mathews as coach about a month ago

Leigh Mathews is only 61

Trengove - just a game

N.Jones - wonderful first half

Watts - time to decide

Dawes - impressed and delivered

Frawley - great under duress

McKenzie -below required standard

Dunn - struggled for effectiveness

Rodan - justified his inclusion

Strauss - rarely imbued confidence

Garland - continued toiling manfully

Pederson - not all negative

Macdonald - was rarely sighted

Evans - had few possessions

Kent - some promising touches

Tapscott - had limited opportunities

Davey - classy but restricted

Howe - classy when involved

Jamar - not the worst

Bail - was the worst

M.Jones - couldn't get going

Terlich - composure was needed

Fitzpatrick - cause for optimism

6 - Dawes ( terrific game considering the horrible presentation he was given )

5 - Frawley ( loved his passion and will to not let Franklin succeed)

4 - N.Jones ( terrific first half )

3 - Howe ( all class , but easily put off his game)

2 - Garland ( continued his good year )

1 - Davey ( elite disposal , and played with passion )

Up until about 3 years ago , I'd only missed about 20 home matches in 45 years of watching mostly inept Melbourne teams underwhelm me .

Currently we have easily the least inspiring collection of players to ever represent our club, and I have only brought myself to attend 2 home games.

I will not attend again until the players demonstrate that they deserve my support!

Not sure he was actually 'slagging us off' , but was really quite measured and honest.

The reality is , he's right about everything he's saying

6- Howe ( Fantastic all day . Skills were sublime )

5 - M.Jones ( Far from outstanding , but our only successful runner )

4 - Frawley ( overwhelmed , but focused all day )

3 - Trengove ( actually looked fit and played accordingly , though was still swamped )

2 - McKenzie ( hard at it all game , but rarely hurt opposition )

1 - Jamar ( merely for weight of knockouts , but unfortunately little support from onballers )

Trengove - regained some flair

N.Jones - couldn't shake tag

Watts - welcome to go

Dawes - couldn't find ball

Frawley - solid as rock

Byrnes - not on field

McKenzie - never stopped trying

Dunn - gave rebound drive

Garland - played under duress

Nicholson - tried but failed

Sellar - just lacks skills

Evans - made dumb decisions

Tapscott - nowhere near standard

Davey - interested but flawed

Gawn - had no involvement

Howe - a wonderful game

Jetta - was probably playing

Jamar - just a dinosaur

Bail - had no impact

M.Jones - tried , lacks polish

Terlich - tried , lacks composure

Magner - tried, lacks ability

6 - Davey ( creative and sublime disposal )

5 - Frawley ( loves the Riewoldt contest , and held his own despite the regularity of entry)

4 - Dunn ( good at both ends , and his kicking to advantage was noted )

3 - Howe ( excellent with the ball, but I wish he'd get it more)

2 - Terlich ( sees ball and gets it )

1 - Magner ( an encouraging return )

Trengove - good, not prolific

N. Jones - gave little drive

Toumpas - little boy lost

Dawes - gave some value

Frawley - excellent under pressure

McKenzie - devoid of skills

Dunn - versatile and effective

Strauss - was rarely sighted

Garland - good under pressure

Nicholson - below average skills

Sellar - stuck at task

Evans - had occasional involvement

Tapscott - tough but inconsistent

Davey - best for ages

Gawk - had little impact

Howe - needed more involvement

Jetta - tried but failed

Jamar - an effective ruckman

Bail- just a plodder

M.Jones - rarely affected game

Terlich - rough but ready

Magner - slow but smart

6 -Gawn ( actually seemed to care )

5 - Sylvia ( showed exuberance, skill , and passion)

4 - M.Jones ( showed composure , and almost reasonable skills)

N.Jones - pressure weighing down

Dawes - unfit and unhelpful

Viney - tried but flawed

Frawley - had little presence

Byrnes - was a liability

Sylvia - gave a damn

McKenzie - bereft of skills

Dunn - tried but failed

Strauss - loose and dumb

Garland - was rarely sighted

Nicholson - dumb and dumber

Sellar - bereft of skills

Evans - was on field

Kent - had no impact

Tapscott - fumbled and failed

Davey - limited and flawed

Gawn - seemed to care

Howe - wasted natural talent

Spencer - was easily beaten

Bail - probably on field

M.Jones - had limited effect

Terlich - unwarranted overconfident attitude

6 - Dunn

5 - Garland

4 - M. Jones

3 - Sylvia

2 - N. Jones

1 - Frawley

Trengove - becoming a liability

Grimes - a significant loss

Jones - great first half

Viney- was probably playing

Frawley - wonderful without ball

Byrnes - possibly on field

Sylvia - flair without greatness

McKenzie - see Frawley's comments

Dunn - showed commendable discipline

Strauss - may have played

Garland - dedicated but loose

Tapscott - loved his courage

McDonald - see Frawley's comments

Nicholson - tries but deficient

Evans - had occasional impact

Kent - backed himself in

Gawn - showed some glimpses

Howe - had no impact

Spencer - tries but deficient

Bail - may have played

M.Jones - tries but limited

Terlich - limited periphery vision

Trengove - hesitant and slow

Grimes - performed as expected

N.Jones - an unexpected passenger

Watts - only second gear

Frawley - good without ball

Byrnes - played his part

Sylvia - was always trying

McKenzie - presence not justified

Rodan - gave little drive

Blease - 5 minute performance

Garland - easily our best

Terlich - ugly but effective

Pederson - wasted a position

McDonald - mistake-riddled performance

Evans - unsighted after first

Tapscott - tough and effective

Davey - couldn't get involved

Gawn - showed encouraging signs

Howe - playing after first ?

Jamar - enjoyed Moloney's presence

Bail - regularly fluffed possessions

Jones - tried but flawed

Ok everyone ... hands clasped together , and let's sing with feeling ' kumbaya .....

Score out of 10 for those who played :

Hogan - 3

N.Jones - 6

Watts - 3

Toumpas - 3

Frawley - 6

Byrnes - 5

Sylvia - 6

Dunn - 7.5

Rodan - 6

Garland - 3

Pederson - 2

Magner - 3

Nicholson - 2

Gillies - 5

Macdonald - 3

Sellar - 5

Grimes - 4

Evans - 3

Tapscott - 3

Davey - 3

Howe - 3

Jamar - 6

M. Jones - 3

Terlich - 4

List of those who gave us little , or nothing , today :

Hogan,Watts,,Toumpas, Garland,Pederson, Nicholson, Macdonald,Evans,Tapscott,Davey,Howe,

Just got home from the game .

Not disastrous .

Positives: Rodan - lots of class , speed , creativity and strength

Byrnes - knows where to go; understands the fall of the ball

Nicholson - showed nothing to suggest he deserves a game ( this IS a positive )

Dunn - continued his resurgence ; easily our best player and kick

Sylvia - started to get some touches

Best : Dunn, Jones , Rodan, Sylvia , Jamar ( dominated the hit outs against no opposition )

My first comments for quite a while, and my first attendance at training this pre-season.

Undoubtedly, the most outstanding aspect of this morning's training for me was to see an energetic, involved, and enthusiastic Aaron Davey. He was running, chasing, and tackling as we remember him from 3-4 seasons ago, and he was far and away the most effective ball user on the field, even kicking a wonderful 50m goal on the run from the boundary.

Another highlight was Fitzpatrick turning Junior McDonald inside out as he grabbed the ball at centre half forward , then backed his confidence to outsprint his more highly regarded opponent over 30 meters before kicking the goal.

I like how Watts has finally broadened his frame to man- size proportions , and thoroughly enjoyed seeing Viney assert himself at every contest.

Like others here, I was very disappointed with the kicking skills, though Casey Fields tends to bring the worst out of most players' disposal levels.

No complaints about the endeavor of all, though this should go without saying at this time of the year.

I'm looking forward to returning with my 3 word player analyses soon.

6 - Macdonald - made few errors and gave a damn

5 - Sellar - see Macdonald

4 - Sylvia - stringing games together helps

3 - Howe - wasn't great , but at least showed some class

2 - Nicholson - disposal was poor , but never stopped trying

1 - Grimes - gave a damn , but was still beaten

Trengove - playing on empty

Grimes - gave a damn

Watts - couldn't find rhythm

Bate - second half effort

Frawley - seemingly without passion

Sylvia - started to perform

McKenzie - disposal was amateurish

Dunn - not the worst

Blease - some isolated cameos

Garland - no heroics today

Moloney - no involvement again

McDonald - absence was felt

Rivers - not the answer

Macdonald - our best defender

Sellar - was always solid

Martin - looked totally lost

Tapscott - angry but useless

Howe - classy but absent

Spencer - waste of space

Bail - had little involvement

Nicholson - brave but careless

Magner - is obviously tiring

Trengove - finally got possessions

Grimes - continued his assession

Jones - accomplished and effective

Watts - used possessions impressively

Bate - enjoyed his freedom

Frawley - did little , well

Clark - breathtaking first quarter

Sylvia - some dynamic involvement

McKenzie - harassed all day

Dunn - effective in defense

Blease - backed his speed

Garland - an effective target

Moloney - very quiet game

T. McDonald - steadily building confidence

Rivers - enjoyed new role

J. MacDonald - tough and effective

Sellar - played intelligent game

Davey - goals but lacking

Howe - great second half

Jamar - dominated as expected

Nicholson - successfully broke lines

Magner - was rarely noticed

Trengove - continued to underperform

Grimes - stand alone captain

Jones - inspiring and courageous

Watts - good but embarrassed

Frawley - just a shadow

Morton - officially an irrelevance

Clark - great all day

Sylvia - continued wretched season

Mckenzie - gotta love him

Dunn - found his niche

Blease - was invariably unbalanced

Green - sadly an embarrassment

Garland - not the answer

Moloney - not a tagger

McDonald - a solid game

Rivers - not a forward

Seller - can't fault endeavour

Tapscott - brave and aggressive

Howe - needed greater involvement

Jamar - had little influence

Nicholson - courageous and improving

Magner - just a game

Trengove - some vital touches

Grimes - excellent sweeper's role

Jones - a vital cog

Watts - an intelligent game

Morton - mistakes , but useful

Clark - a minor player

Sylvia - started to impose

McKenzie - excellent tagging performance

Dunn - effective , but limited

Blease - excellent until injured

Green - experience was important

Garland - the x factor

Moloney - enjoyed not tagging

McDonald - mistakes , but important

Rivers - a classy game

Macdonald - tough and clever

Seller - an impressive game

Tapscott - application and toughness

Howe - some cameo involvement

Jamar - more rounded game

Nicholson - confident and exciting

Magner - never shirked issue