Sambo06

Stick your question up your clacker Mate. Absolutely, my support is unwavering.

As long as he's one of ours, he gets my unwavering support. That's what loving your Club is about SWYL. Unlike you and your pathetic Mate, I am Red & Blue all the time, not just when it suits. Grow up and stop behaving so petulantly. Your infantile rants are as boring as your mate Picket's.

Nah, there's enough knives in poor old Jimmy's back. I'll just ask him to drop a few off on his way to his overpaid job where he goes to not learn, with the hips he deliberately had operated, on just so he could disappoint a few MFC keyboard warriors. If he's not using them, I'm sure he won't mind lending them to Picket and Mates so they can use to eat their own.

The Humble Pie is still baking Picket and Mates. Don't know why sane people are trying to reason with this peanut and his mates. Playing into their keyboard warrior Hans.

DE at 58%. Less than that in first half. How come JV cops it for poor disposal and Whines is lauded?

Lol! Your intellect is amazing Jackie Boy.

Good spelling peanut. Almost as crap as your point.

What's even scarier, is to ask the kid if he would want to be traded! I reckon he would say yes right now! You don't lose skill and talent, it gets sucked out of you. I am one of his biggest fans, but boy, does that sort of game s__t me. I don't know how many videos I've watched of him running down the wing like he did today, but end up in a goal. Let us remember, he only played 10 Senior SANFL games including the GF, where he was one of the best for his Team. This Club needs us more than ever NOW. I know its been tough but we have to stick with it. I can't stand this bull that most here go on with. If you don't want to stay loyal during the tough times, just go. Me....I intend to stick around for the good times, they WILL come. We will have an admin that will take us forward and our very young playing group can only get better (can't it?). Bring in some new talent, blend it with this year's crop, teach them well, get them fit....lets see where we go from there.

NA, you don't read anything that dismisses your flimsy arguments do you. Only one (Ollie Wines) of all the players you mentioned are actually true, first year players.

As for first year players (midfielders) with consistency (or a considerable amount more), Tom Mitchell, Jaeger O'Meara, Brad Crouch and Wines are all good examples All of the above have been at their Clubs for 2 Pre Seasons except for Ollie, who has had no injury concerns in the last couple of years and will also be a gun not withstanding his recent, inconsistent form. Mitchell is into his second year and O'Meara and Crouch went as mini draft picks to their respective clubs. They have had 2 AFL pre seasons under their belts (same as our Rising Star, Jesse Hogan is now getting). They were poor examples mate.

Sorry NA, completely disagree with you, but it's ok to not agree. To play well, as you rightly pointed out, against Sydney (current Premiers) and Geelong( Equal favourites for this year & wet, hard slog), shows he does have the desire. He has the flair as well, showcased by some of his elite kicking across field that i have seen from him in a few of his games. Absolutely needs to show us more of it though, i agree. Yes, consistency is an issue with Jimmy right now, but show me ANY first year player that has had that? Passion is the scuffle with Boomer and getting involved with helping his mates out. A lesson some of our more experienced players should heed. I implore you NA, to look again at the replays if you still have them. I'm not denying he has some issues to sort out, but I'm not worried. Toumpas has shown enough to suggest he will be a very good servant of our Club for many many years to come.

Had you been watching closely, options forward of centre were very rare NA. When I watch footy I have found it pays to watch the ball carrier closely and then look upfield to see what options are available to him. The defenders on the weekend weren't great, but when ever they got the ball, North's pressure up the ground continually cut off all options. Going sideways was basically all we open to us. Our off the ball running was virtually non existent. On occasions when we did have options, our disposal let us down. This did not include the Toump. He hit up every target, unlike some of his more experienced team mate.

Have you had a hip op or knee op? Just a basic arthroscopy? For a player like Toumpas who needs time to build his body, not skills, it can be a bigger hindrance than you think. With hips ops you cant do alot of movement; muscle loss is really amazing and the recovery period is longer than you'd expect. Which would have been followed very strictly by the club because, as you noted, his program would be reduced and they would not want to jeperdise his long term career over it. I reckon he will be ok too. As you mentioned, some good footy and some bad. Cant wait to see what a full preseason will do for him. What he had done was major surgery guys. He had double Hip Impingement Surgery. This involves doing one hip at a time as you can't do both together. Normally you go to hospital for the first surgery, then return for second op a few weeks later. This allows time for the healing to start on the first hip before they go back in to do the second. The ops can be damaging if not performed correctly. Shaving bone off the Femur is major work. Our Hips are the main swivel points for our bodies and are the basis for all Core strength and flexibility. On both hips it is tough going for the patient. With Hip Impingements, there is also a very high possibility that there is also Cartilage damage which would also require cleaning up in both hips. Complete recovery from this type of surgery can take up to 12 months. Being so young, and as stated previously, a first year player, Jimmy's pre season would normally have been about 50% anyway. My understanding of this type of surgery and its recovery time means a responsible Club would limit him to approximately a 25% pre season. This would definitely reduce fitness, explosiveness and power in a youngster trying to make his way in the AFL. Lets all just hold off and wait and see how young Toump goes with another pre season under his belt. I have a feeling also that we will see the beginning of our next Star this time next year. I know it's been frustratingly long, but it's gone on this long!

I think today was one of his better games. Made a couple of errors (should have had a crack at goal ffs) but was very good in the main. Used the ball quite well, hitting most targets. Played mainly in the back line, which is unusual for him. I especially liked his mongrel when he and Harvey scuffled. He didn't take a backwards step. What is very disappointing is how little spirit there seems to be in our team. Only Grimes came in to fly the flag. Everyone else had a look and turned away. When you expect a 19 year old to show some fire, it doesn't bode well for our Club.

Fool. Supporters like you make the rest of us embarrassed! You realise from a photo who will lead our Club into the future???? If size was all that mattered, Sellar would be our saviour. Obviously not. It is easier to teach a skilled player to put his head over it than it is to teach a monster how to kick and quickly summarise his best options. This is not a dig at Ollie as I believe him to be a great kid.