DemonFrog

Don't disagree but throwing money at an issues is not always the best way to solve it. So my question is could the ALF achieve the same result but spend a lot less to achieve it? If Yes, then there would be more funds available to other Clubs.

Really? Neeld got paid out the remaining time on his contract, so what could he sue for? Schwab also got a payout and accepted his dismal, did you not watch the press conference? McLardy was never an employee and he resigned from his position. Connolly I thought had a contract extension but not sure what has happened with him, so someone else could answer this one. IMO the AFL is poorly run and if it was not for massive TV revenues which can easy hide bad performance, where would the league be? The AFL is not a fair or equitable competition. Many teams currently get an competitive advantage from advantageous fixtures to cash hand outs and favourable picks. It is my view that without the MFC there would not have been an Australian Football Code and therefore not one of the other Clubs would exist today. No other professional sporting club has ever lasted as long as the MFC and it still remains a members owned Club. This is something we all should be proud of. Yes the Club is having so issues and needs support at this time in its history but it in the best interest of all the other Clubs that there is a strong and healthy MFC. I do however understand that we can not play the victim card forever, but as the owners/members of the Club we were kept in the dark as to what was really happening within the management of the MFC. So there does need to be improvements within the Governance of the Club as well. Aussie Rules football has withstood competition from many other sports over the years and needs to continue this trend into the future. My worry is the lack of loyalty to players and Clubs will cost this code in the end. Although its important to maintain strong cash flows this should not be done to the determent of the long term good of the League. For example the meat market called the national draft IMO is a system that only encourages football mercenaries. There is a need to create a Clubs identity as well as better encourage investment into the games at a grass roots level. Is Vlad up to the challenges ahead? IMO he only appears to look after his own self interest and that of his AFL mates. He always appears to be interested in power and self promotion. So I would say NO. What PJ doing after he leaves the MFC?

Just watched Spartacus (as mentioned above) last night. It was not as good as the first two seasons.

I remember the family shame when my father changed his support to the Perth Demons in the WAFL. This was the man who gave birth to a son who had one red and one blue eyes. Just because he lived a few doors down to Lathlain Park (now its the WCE training ground) which is Perth's home ground IMO is no excuse to change teams. Now if you want another team which will not win a Premiership with in the next 20 to 50 years that will be Perth. Its last Premiership was in 1977 and that Club can lose close to its entire League team from one season to the next. When my Father was alive and the MFC had real AFL players, I loved calling him when we beat the Shockers. I am not sure if it was my singing voice or if he was too busy at the time, but I did hear him say to Mum "I don't want to speak with him" when I called after the games. I even played the 2008 You Tube video of the 51 point come back from behind victory on my TV for him when he came to visit. It these special family times that makes all the difference. RBB I would link borrowing the car etc to how many MFC games your children attend. This works equally as well on the amount you spend on their presents as well. I know some may consider it a little harsh, but if you love them it these little things that's important and you don't want them to support Collingwood! If you have daughters grab a few MFC Membership Forms for when they bring boys home. You can never be too prepared and a great test if they are truly committed to the potential relationship.

I am still looking for an Avatar which has blue in it as well as the red. But I have to take into consideration changing my Avatar too often upsets some Banana Fans.

I can feel your pain as to the lack of success. My first passion being a Western Australian was the West Perth FC and I remember the 20 years wait between the 1975 and 1995 Premierships. I had the hunger that was growing year by year. The day they won the 1995 (they won three more since) was special as the day before and the day after the victory I had a 12 hour drive to get to and from the game, it was worth every second of the 24 hour drive. The only Grand Final since 1975 that the WPFC was not the under dog was the 1993 (the year the Club relocated its home ground from Leederville Oval) which it was the minor Premiers. On the VFL and AFL front, I did not support any particular team until the WCE entered the competition. As a supporter of the WCE they gave me two Premiership wins before I moved my support to the MFC back in 1999. I had enjoy the 2000 Grand Final which the MFC was clearly the under dog and the EFC was clearly the outstanding team all season. Unfortunately the MFC has a history of being up one year and down the next. Although it been pretty much down over the past seven years. The MFC has never won a Premiership since I was born, which was in the late 60's. My hunger for success would not be as great as your OD with regards to the MFC for obvious reasons. But when the Club does turn things around on field as it must do (see the Hawkes) and wins its 13th Flag. That will be a very special day indeed for you. I can honestly say that will mean more to you then the 11 Hawks Premierships combined means to their supporters. So keep keeping the Faith and remember all good things come to he who waits. Plus what other team could you possibility support? I had a look in 1999 at what AFL team I could support and IMO there was only one, the MFC. I like Under Dog teams and think its a poor supporter who only picks winning teams. The MFC has done all it can off the field in 2013 and as supporters we are all waiting to see what the Club can do on the field in 2014 and beyond.

No Way BBO that can not be true. We all love you on the DL forums.

BBO I tied to focus on his shopping issue only because even I was in denial of what I read after that. It must be the wife's fault or the Education System. There is a lot to be said for home schooling these days. At least all my children support the MFC as I ask them daily, just before I feed them.

Just opened my membership renewal and there a Grand Final Guarantee option ROFL Like I will need that option in 2014. What are the chances of the MFC coming from the worst AFL team in one year to the one of the best the following year? They should have called this option the Pay Roos Salary and I would have donated the $80 in a heart beat.

No you are a Saint. But you not learnt the few tricks every good man should know. Firstly, when you go on such trips, plan ahead and find a number of escape routes or places you can hide until the danger has passes. Secondly, find the most expensive thing your wife would not want you to buy and buy it. Repeat this stage on every trip you are forces, I mean volunteer to go on. Then take your wife and Daughters on equal man time so for every minutes you spend doing their thing they must spend doing your thing, but ear plugs are a must otherwise it will not work. This is great way to encourage them to reduce their time shopping. Go to the hardware, sport stores etc any place you will enjoy and they will hate. If all else fails and your are required to go on more four hour shopping trips. Then just pay them off with cold hard cash. I know BBO and Moon would have really great suggestions for you as well. No thanks needed BB as we are here to help another Dees Supporter any way we can.

Oh then your allowed to make a comment then. All is forgiven.

You could added the 100 million given to expansion Clubs. If this money was return to the existing Clubs we would not have needed additional financial support an be a more sustainable Club. C.Mon uncle Vlad can I have another 2.7 million, pretty please! The AFL only has the members Clubs Money, not their own. As without the Clubs they would have nothing.

Who here is not a MFC Supporter?

I can go back to some gaming time now. All this talk about Tanking has rekindled my interest in The World of Tanks and I still have so much to do in Guild Wars 2.

OD everyone loves you here. It just when you go over 10,000 posts you must have an Avatar! I have a few dozen suggestions for you in that area. Thanks all it been a blast on the Demonland Forums. Just keep in mind that we may not agree with each other on many things, we do on that topic that really counts. We all support the MFC!

I always thought Big Vlad was just a show pony. To me I respect him for supporting the MFC but don't think he been good in the long term for the League. But in all cases time will tell if I am right or not about the future of Australian Rules Football.

Loved to watch him as a player. Pity he with the Hawkes but hope its not long term.

Now the only thing left to do this year is see who the MFC recruits and what will happen to Messendon. Its been a long and draining season for me so very glad its now over. Nice to meet you guys on this forum as I live in Country WA so there is very few MFC supporters around here. I have enjoyed having a joke or two as well as venting on the Demonland Forums this season. God knows I needed it at times. Oh OD this Avatar symbolises the MFC needs to be much more unforgiving and aggressive in the 2014 and beyond seasons. No more Mr Nice Demon.

I don't need to be harsh as its the way he attacks those that may disagrees with him that ensures he always loses every argument. But I did see you give him a spray or two.

Think Brad had to sell his

I could go and see if he has a brother as I am sitting in the Wheatbelt right now LOL

Keep this to yourself but I think BBO is a little upset that you keep rejecting his sister

May be next year they can have dwarf running which can be sponsored by the Saint Kilda FC

We love you Moon LOL PS when the wedding?

Once they stop following due process and started their harassment and bullying campaign IMO they became a Mob. I seen footage of Police having to get involved in the protest, that means they have started to act illegally. No community can afford to have people doing what ever they want, just because they believe they have a right to do it. No the community had a right to express their views and opinions which they did do in the appropriate forums. But the umpire has made its decision so they need to respect the process and move on. With all due respect to Dee-luded I simply think he does not understand the purpose or the process of establishing Town Planning Schemes. Communities should have a voice with regards to their local area but this needs to be done in a fair and equitable way. As leaving decisions like this to popular vote would cause so many issues. A number of times he has stated that Money is our God. Well I have no God. Communities do in fact need money to survive so its important to allow areas for commercial purposes like retail etc. This is not an evil thing to do. Personal I don't care if the Maccas store opens up or not.