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The Demons travel to the SCG in Round 24 as they take on the Sydney Swans with Top 4 and the double chance sewn up. Who comes in and who goes out?

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The Demons have claimed 4th spot on the ladder and the double chance for the third year in a row with a win over the Hawks by 27 points at the MCG today.

Christian Petracca is the runaway leader of the Demonland Player of the Year and has a 54 vote lead over Jack Viney as Clayton Oliver and Max Gawn sit in 3rd and 4th place respectively. Your votes for the win over the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

It's Game Day and the Demons have the perfect opportunity to sew up a position in the Top 4 prior to the final game of the season. A loss will ensure that the Dees need to either draw or beat the Swans next week to claim the double chance. But first let's just beat the Hawks.

@Jaded No More this week

Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

Ours is a team game but there are always members of a team who stand out from the rest. They are the leaders and in the case of the Melbourne Football Club, its leaders have held them in good stead over the past few years, most notably men like Max Gawn and Jack Viney who never cease fighting for the team. They are the ones (not the only ones) whose fighting spirit never dampens — the fighter in them stays, and so do they. This week Max Gawn will play his 200th AFL game, a magnificent achievement considering how his career started, how he withstood early severe injuries and how he developed his game to reach the pinnacle of his craft as a ruckman. He is The Boxer, a fighter by his trade. We congratulate him on his achievements. There are more to come. Another fighter in Alex Neal-Bullen plays his 150th game. He not only fights but he also runs and, despite coming in for some criticism from those who don’t appreciate the role he plays in the team complemented by his athleticism. There’s more to come from him too. Melbourne is likely to be challenged in this penultimate game of the home and away season. There should be no illusions about that, given the recent form of their opponents in Hawthorn who have beaten two top eight sides at their last starts including top-of-the-ladder Collingwood and a Western Bulldogs team, albeit one that continues to struggle to hold its position in the top echelon of the competition. However, one finds it difficult to comprehend that scenario in light of the situation in Round 20 when the Hawks gave up nine goals to the Saints in the opening term as they succumbed to a 29-point loss despite a spirited third quarter comeback. Melbourne beat Richmond later that afternoon by 32 points and were contending for a top two finish. The Demons haven’t performed poorly in their subsequent two clashes, but their starts have been unimpressive, and they have failed to make the most of their opportunities once they belatedly got themselves going. So, the Demons face a resurgent Hawthorn in a tricky game having just lost one of their goal kicking keys to the Richmond victory. The good news is that one of the other key team players in Clayton Oliver made a spectacular comeback after ten weeks on the sidelines with 27 disposals, 10 clearances and 13 tackles. Most of those stats came in the second half and he was constantly being held off the ball. Mitchell will possibly assign Finn Maginness to shut him down and good luck for that. The red headed Demon has a lot more to give after removing the cobwebs against the Blues. Hawthorn is building with some solid contributors of its own in the midfield. The likes of the emerging Day and Newman are talented and young but they come up against one of the best on ball brigades in the business this week and will be sorely tested. The Demons have too much at stake to let this one go and I expect them to start better this week, hold firm in defence, play with the same intensity and mindset that has them in the top four and fight the good fight. Their experience and leadership will make certain of that! Melbourne by 23 points. THE GAME Melbourne v Hawthorn at the MCG Sunday 20 August 2023 at 3.20pm HEAD TO HEAD Overall Melbourne 81 wins Hawthorn 87 wins 1 draw At the MCG Melbourne 41 wins Hawthorn 46 wins 1 draw Last 5 meetings Melbourne 4 wins Hawthorn 0 wins 1 draw The Coaches Goodwin 1 win Mitchell 0 wins THE LAST TIME THEY MET Melbourne 15.13.103 defeated Hawthorn 7.7.49 in Round 9, 2023 at The MCG The Demons shot out of the blocks and were all over the Hawks with solid pressure throughout the entire first half. They released the pressure valve temporarily in the second half but we’re back on the job in quick time to end up recording a comfortable victory. THE TEAMS MELBOURNE B J. Bowey S. May T. Rivers HB J. McVee J. Smith J. Lever C C. Salem J. Viney E. Langdon HF T. Sparrow J. Melksham A. Neal-Bullen F K. Pickett J. van Rooyen L. Hunter FOLL M. Gawn C. Oliver C. Petracca I/C A. Brayshaw K. Chandler B. Laurie A. Tomlinson SUB J. Schache EMG B. Grundy J. Jordon C. Spargo IN B. Laurie J. Schache A. Tomlinson OUT B. Grundy (omitted) M. Hibberd (omitted) J. Jordon (omitted) HAWTHORN B B. Hardwick J. Blanck J. Impey HB J. Sicily J. Scrimshaw H. Morrison C K. Amon W. Day J. Weddle HF H. Hustwaite L. Breust J. Ward F D. Moore J. Koschitzke F. Maginness FOLL N. Reeves C. Nash J. Worpel I/C D. Grainger-Barras N. Long C. MacDonald M. Ramsden SUB J. Serong EMG T. Brockman B. Ryan IN H. Hustwaite N. Long M. Ramsden J. Serong OUT M. Lewis (foot) B. MacDonald (omitted) J. Newcombe (hamstring) C. Wingard (Achilles) Injury List: Round 23 Ben Brown - Knee | Test Daniel Turner - Hand | Test Bayley Fritsch - Foot | 1 - 2 Weeks Blake Howes - Hand | Season Harrison Petty - Foot | Season Oliver Sestan - Elbow | Season

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I'm parking this one for this week. We haven't sewn up a Top 4 berth so it is pointless at the moment to strategize about resting players the following week.

Sneaky!!!! But it's a good segway for me to ask the guys this very question and I too have seen very little of the Hawks this season.

Thanks for the reminder. I've put it into the preview.

Going to cut off questions here guys. Thanks for all the questions and comments. You will all get your shoutouts on the show. I will not charge you for any therapy you may or may not receive.

Votes Player (Club) 9 George Hewett (CARL) 7 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 7 Nicholas Newman (CARL) 3 Jack Viney (MELB) 2 Angus Brayshaw (MELB) 1 Christian Petracca (MELB) 1 Jacob Weitering (CARL) Leaderboard Votes Player Club 99 Nick Daicos COLL 92 Zak Butters PORT 90 Christian Petracca MELB 87 Marcus Bontempelli WB 80 Connor Rozee PORT 74 Toby Greene GWS 73 Zach Merrett ESS 73 Lachie Neale BL 71 Noah Anderson GCFC 71 Jordan Dawson ADEL 69 Errol Gulden SYD 69 Caleb Serong FRE 67 Jack Sinclair STK 63 Jai Newcombe HAW 63 Tim Taranto RICH 60 Patrick Cripps CARL 58 Luke Jackson FRE 58 Jack Viney MELB 56 Tom Liberatore WB 55 Dan Houston PORT

In a game that was billed as Casey’s last chance to fight its way back into contention for a vital top four place on the VFL ladder with one round left before the finals, the Demons fell short by eight points after a disastrous display in front of goals in the second half against Carlton VFL at Ikon Park on Sunday. After booting six goals from eight scoring shots to half time to trail by 9 points, Casey’s forward line accuracy fell apart in the second half kicking 3.13 to 4.6 in that period. During the final term, the ball virtually lived in their forward line (inside 50s were 17 to 5 in their favour) they managed one single goal while the Blues scored goals in their only two forays forward in the first twenty minutes of the quarter. The Demons can only blame themselves as they missed several easy shots at goal, hit the post on numerous occasions and made poor decisions in the front half. In addition, the disposal and decision-making going forward also left a lot to be desired. Early in the game, Carlton’s small brigade outran the Demons and forced their defence into error with their dominance. It was only through individual efforts that Casey managed to claw its way back into the game. All that was nothing in a wasteful third term that was compounded by the many misses at the end. Luke Dunstan was once again prolific in his ball getting and endeavour towards the ball but not necessarily always in the execution. He had 38 disposals, eight clearances, seven tackles and kicked a goal. Similarly, James Harmes was active with 30 disposals, one more than Bailey Laurie who also had a busy day along with Charlie Spargo (28 touches). Taj Woewodin showed the benefits of his stint at AFL level with 25 touches and seven clearances. The Demons came into the game at the scene of their 2022 VFL premiership triumph looking for a key forward to cover the loss of Harrison Petty through injury but it was the limited impact of their talls that was their Achilles Heel with limited marks taken up forward despite no lack of opportunity. In his comeback from a long layoff, Tom McDonald managed just one goal, as did youngster Matt Jefferson while the usually accurate Josh Schache finished with three behinds. Will Verrall battled hard in the ruck and showed a lot of promise for the future with his 17 hit outs. Matt Buntine was the best of the Casey listed players and Jimmy Munro was his usual indefatigable self. Tom Freeman defended strongly in the second half. All in all however, it was a disappointing result for the Demons who will rue some narrow defeats late in the season and must now win next week against the Brisbane Lions VFL side if they are to avoid a wild card playoff in a fortnight’s time. CASEY DEMONS 2.1.13 6.2.38 8.10.58 9.15.69 CARLTON VFL 2.3.15 7.5.47 9.11.65 11.11.77 GOALS CASEY DEMONS Brown Buntine Dunstan Grey Jefferson Laurie McDonald Spargo White CARLTON VFL Cahill 4 Ronke 2 Akeui Boyd Crocker Honey McMahon BEST CASEY DEMONS Dunstan Laurie Spargo Tomlinson Woewodin Buntine CARLTON VFL Binns Boyd Young Cowan Ronke O’Brien Statistics Jed Adams 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 40 dream team points Kynan Brown 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 43 dream team points Matt Buntine 1 goal 1 behind 10 kicks 9 handballs 19 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 86 dream team points Luke Dunstan 1 goal 16 kicks 22 handballs 38 disposals 7 marks tackles 149 dream team points Kyah Farris-White 1 handball 1 disposal 1 tackle 6 hit outs 12 dream team points Tom Freeman 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 7 marks 1 tackles 58 dream team points George Grey 1 goal 1 behind kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points James Harmes 15 kicks 15 handballs 30 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 82 dream team points Matt Jefferson 1 goal 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 6 marks 48 dream team points Bailey Laurie 1 goal 13 kicks 16 handballs 29 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 109 dream team points Tom McDonald 1 goal 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 9 hit outs 60 dream team points Tom McRae 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 48 dream team points Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 behind 8 kicks 8 handballs 16 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 71 dream team points James Munro 1 behind 4 kicks 14 handballs 18 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 63 dream team points Josh Schache 3 behinds 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 36 dream team points Deaykin Smith 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 46 dream team points Charlie Spargo 1 goal 16 kicks 12 handballs 28 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points Roan Steele 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 47 dream team points Adam Tomlinson 23 kicks 4 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 104 dream team points Kye Turner 4 kicks 1 handballs 5 disposals 14 dream team points Will Verrall 2 kicks 8 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 17 hit outs 43 dream team points Mitch White 1 goal 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 61 dream team points Taj Woewoedin 1 behind 12 kicks 13 handballs 25disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 92 dream team points

Melbourne was in a beastly mood early in the game against Hawthorn at the MCG with eight goals to one in the first half. The Hawks came out of the blocks after half time like a team possessed with three quick goals but the Demons rallied to win by a comfortable nine goal margin. Jack Viney and Christian Petracca were the best of the Demons. MELBOURNE 5.5.35 8.6.54 11.10.76 15.13.103 HAWTHORN 0.1.1 1.3.9 6.5.41 7.7.49 THE TEAMS HAWTHORN B J. Sicily S. Frost J. Weddle HB F. Maginness S. Mitchell J. Blanck J. Impey C C. Nash J. Newcombe K. Amon HF J. Worpel J. Koschitzke C. Wingard F D. Moore M. Lewis L. Breust FOLL L. Meek W. Day C. Mackenzie I/C S. Butler B. Hardwick C. Jiath H. Morrison SUB L. Bramble EMG F. Greene J. Scrimshaw IN J. Blanck L. Breust S. Butler C. Jiath J. Koschitzke C. Mackenzie OUT T. Brockman (suspended) F. Greene (omitted) C. Macdonald (illness) N. Reeves (ankle) J. Scrimshaw (omitted) J. Ward (foot) MELBOURNE B A. Brayshaw S. May M. Hibberd HB J. McVee J. Lever J. Bowey C E. Langdon C. Oliver A. Neal-Bullen HF B. Fritsch B. Grundy L. Hunter F K. Chandler J. van Rooyen K. Pickett FOLL M. Gawn C. Petracca J. Viney I/C H. Petty T. Rivers C. Spargo T. Sparrow SUB J. Jordon EMG B. Laurie T. McDonald D. Turner IN M. Hibberd C. Spargo OUT J. Harmes (omitted) D. Turner (omitted)

KICKING WOES by KC From Casey In a game that was billed as Casey’s last chance to fight its way back into contention for a vital top four place on the VFL ladder with one round left before the finals, the Demons fell short by eight points after a disastrous display in front of goals in the second half against Carlton VFL at Ikon Park on Sunday. After booting six goals from eight scoring shots to half time to trail by 9 points, Casey’s forward line accuracy fell apart in the second half kicking 3.13 to 4.6 in that period. During the final term, the ball virtually lived in their forward line (inside 50s were 17 to 5 in their favour) they managed one single goal while the Blues scored goals in their only two forays forward in the first twenty minutes of the quarter. The Demons can only blame themselves as they missed several easy shots at goal, hit the post on numerous occasions and made poor decisions in the front half. In addition, the disposal and decision-making going forward also left a lot to be desired. Early in the game, Carlton’s small brigade outran the Demons and forced their defence into error with their dominance. It was only through individual efforts that Casey managed to claw its way back into the game. All that was nothing in a wasteful third term that was compounded by the many misses at the end. Luke Dustan was once again prolific in his ball getting and endeavour towards the ball but not necessarily always in the execution. He had 38 disposals, eight clearances, seven tackles and kicked a goal. Similarly, James Harmes was active with 30 disposals, one more than Bailey Laurie who also had a busy day along with Charlie Spargo (28 touches). Taj Woewodin showed the benefits of his stint at AFL level with 25 touches and seven clearances. The Demons came into the game at the scene of their 2022 VFL premiership triumph looking for a key forward to cover the loss of Harrison Petty through injury but it was the limited impact of their talls that was their Achilles Heel with limited marks taken up forward despite no lack of opportunity. In his comeback from a long layoff, Tom McDonald managed just one goal, as did youngster Matt Jefferson while the usually accurate Josh Schache finished with three behinds. Will Verrall battled hard in the ruck and showed a lot of promise for the future with his 17 hit outs. Matt Buntine was the best of the Casey listed players and Jimmy Munro was his usual indefatigable self. Tom Freeman defended strongly in the second half. All in all however, it was a disappointing result for the Demons who will rue some narrow defeats late in the season and must now win next week against the Brisbane Lions VFL side if they are to avoid a wild card playoff in a fortnight’s time. CASEY DEMONS 2.1.13 6.2.38 8.10.58 9.15.69 CARLTON VFL 2.3.15 7.5.47 9.11.65 11.11.77 GOALS CASEY DEMONS Brown Buntine Dunstan Grey Jefferson Laurie McDonald Spargo White CARLTON VFL Cahill 4 Ronke 2 Akeui Boyd Crocker Honey McMahon BEST CASEY DEMONS Dunstan Laurie Spargo Tomlinson Woewodin Buntine CARLTON VFL Binns Boyd Young Cowan Ronke O’Brien Statistics Jed Adams 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 40 dream team points Kynan Brown 1 goal 1 behind 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 43 dream team points Matt Buntine 1 goal 1 behind 10 kicks 9 handballs 19 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 86 dream team points Luke Dunstan 1 goal 16 kicks 22 handballs 38 disposals 7 marks tackles 149 dream team points Kyah Farris-White 1 handball 1 disposal 1 tackle 6 hit outs 12 dream team points Tom Freeman 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 7 marks 1 tackles 58 dream team points George Grey 1 goal 1 behind kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points James Harmes 15 kicks 15 handballs 30 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 82 dream team points Matt Jefferson 1 goal 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 6 marks 48 dream team points Bailey Laurie 1 goal 13 kicks 16 handballs 29 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 109 dream team points Tom McDonald 1 goal 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 9 hit outs 60 dream team points Tom McRae 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 48 dream team points Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 behind 8 kicks 8 handballs 16 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 71 dream team points James Munro 1 behind 4 kicks 14 handballs 18 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 63 dream team points Josh Schache 3 behinds 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 36 dream team points Deaykin Smith 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 46 dream team points Charlie Spargo 1 goal 16 kicks 12 handballs 28 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 105 dream team points Roan Steele 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 47 dream team points Adam Tomlinson 23 kicks 4 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 104 dream team points Kye Turner 4 kicks 1 handballs 5 disposals 14 dream team points Will Verrall 2 kicks 8 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 17 hit outs 43 dream team points Mitch White 1 goal 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 61 dream team points Taj Woewoedin 1 behind 12 kicks 13 handballs 25disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 92 dream team points

A fingernail ... that is the difference between winning an AFL match and holding on to 2nd place on the ladder. Or a spot in the next stage of the FIFA womens world cup. While one Carlton Blue’s player had a fingernail long enough to deny a Melbourne victory, Le Bleues had bitten theirs down (along with a lot of Australian fans) in a dramatic penalty shootout. Was the Petracca kick touched or not? Which way does a deflection from the woodwork go? It matters no more, because the decision has been made, and one team of Blues goes home happy, while the other just goes home. Melbourne was on the end of a nail biting finish in this game, and certainly had multiple chances in the dying minutes of the game to take the victory. But when playing against sides like Carlton who sit 5th on the ladder, these are the games which are typical of the finals football that is to come. The match will always come down to one or two critical moments. The coach himself said after the match that it is important to “win those moments”. The Demons didn’t and have paid the price. And once again, with rain falling in this match the Demons failed. Almost every loss by the team has been in slippery and or wet conditions. In some games it was a failure to adapt to play wet weather football, but like this game it just causes a drop off in the slickness needed to transit the ball to the attacking end of the ground. The Demons got off to a poor start in the game, and scored a solitary goal from barely half a dozen entries into the forward 50. Fortunately, their defenders denied Carlton again and again, so come the end of the first quarter both sides had only bothered the goal umpires once each. The second quarter was much the same and the two teams went into the break with three majors each and two points separating them. It was to be a portent of the end result. The match was simply being played between the arcs, and with over 50 i50’s for each side and only 6 goals it certainly wasn’t a game to be watched by the spectators. But then most of them were watching the shootout at another game on their phones. Finally in the 3rd quarter things started to happen. Australia had won the soccer and everyone, including the players returned their concentration to playing real football. More goals kicked in 1 quarter than in the previous half, but once again both sides were level pegging, and there promised to be a nail biting shootout in the final stanza. Well that proved to be the case, and Melbourne gave the Blues a mighty step up in the opening minutes when they simply waltzed the ball out of the middle and put themselves 18 points up, which was the highest margin for the night. To their credit, the Demons clawed their way back and with yet another miraculous goal to Kysaiah Pickett, followed by a great mark and straight kick from Joel Smith, they were back in it. A “gimme” chance to Christian Salem surprisingly fell short and then the Petracca shot was adjudged to have been touched on the line. A four point victory to the Baggers. All around the ground, there were great contests. Steven May probably won the fight against Charlie Curnow, only allowing him two goals. He was ably assisted by Jake Lever with 12 intercept possessions. Still, the Carlton smalls were winning the match for them, so we saw Michael Hibberd introduced to quell the rot, and that he did. As the coach noted, it wasn’t a night for forwards, and the Gawndy experiment was repeated with no positive outcome. A paltry three marks between the two players for the match, is not what is expected and certainly not needed. While Gawn dominated the ruck for hitouts, the outcome was not to the teams advantage, and it was no surprise that the final quarter comeback from the Demons occurred when Grundy was used in the ruck. More importantly the same experiment utterly failed when both players went forward. Does anybody remember them getting a single touch in that area? Once again they just clog up the space and it caused the coach to move Smith to the forward line to get some presence up there. It couldn’t be left to a 20 year old Jacob Van Rooyen alone, who was battling against Weitering, one of the best backs in the whole league. With the fingernails well and truly bitten down to their base, the Demon fans have nothing left now for the final two matches. A game against a re-vitalised Hawthorn and another against Sydney in the Harbour city, are going to be more of the same. Or will comprehensive victories against these two sides, allow sufficient growth for those with severe cases of MFCSS to endure the finals series? MELBOURNE 1.0.6 3.3.21 6.6.42 8.8.56 CARLTON 1.3.9 3.5.23 6.6.42 9.6.60 GOALS MELBOURNE Petracca 2 Chandler Langdon Neal-Bullen Pickett Smith Sparrow CARLTON C Curnow Owies 2 Acres Cripps De Koning Docherty Martin BEST MELBOURNE Viney Oliver Petracca Salem Brayshaw Hunter CARLTON Cripps Newman Weitering Hewett Docherty Saad INJURIES MELBOURNE Nil CARLTON Sam Docherty (calf) REPORTS MELBOURNE Nil CARLTON Nil SUBSTITUTIONS MELBOURNE Michael Hibberd (replaced James Jordon in the third quarter) CARLTON Ed Curnow (replaced Sam Docherty in the fourth quarter) UMPIRES Justin Power Ray Chamberlain Robert Findlay Brent Wallace CROWD 68,577 at the MCG

Tracc still on track … 227. Christian Petracca 173. Jack Viney 136. Clayton Oliver 89. Max Gawn 87. Angus Brayshaw 72. Steven May 54. Lachie Hunter Kysaiah Pickett 53. Trent Rivers 49. Jake Lever 46. Christian Salem 40. Brodie Grundy 27. Jake Bowey Ed Langdon 25. Tom Sparrow 23. Judd McVee 19. Bayley Fritsch 18. Kade Chandler Alex Neal-Bullen 16. Harry Petty 13. Jacob van Rooyen 10. Jake Melksham 9. Ben Brown 8. Charlie Spargo 5. Tom McDonald 4. Michael Hibberd 3. James Jordon Adam Tomlinson

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