dpositive

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

The school is 100% in favour of the MFC and they are aligned. Not sure what that actually means to the decision makers and funding

I haven't heard what the Trust is saying, but it would have been a yes, or no, a long time ago. But never really evidenced and changes to MRC board since

The people at a committee lunch on a race day at the MRC, were told by the MRC Chairman in his welcome speech that the MFC would be their neighbour soon. This is the most positive and important fact THanksRL

Obviously there is ongoing discussion about specifics of the project, but I would imagine the reason we are not getting any info, is because of an embargo on it and the likely responsible party for that, does seem to be the State Government. It could well be a condition of their financial contribution, that they control the narrative. Yes we can only imagine any reasons as the club and all involved are not communicating

That does seem the most likely reason we are getting crickets. Hope you are correct

If this was not happening, we would have been told by now. Not sure given your final point

A failure of this project after so many attempts, would have to in some way affect the Board's ability to continue, imo. Without doubt the most significant point. Too many egos involved

Just a few points to emphasise

7 hours ago, Brownie said:

A generous offer @dpositive thanks. And a brilliant quote. That's pretty much headstone worthy.

Probably should include the acknowledgement to George Best who said something similar.

I also think much of the resistance is from the traditionists who cling to an MCG location.

On 26/01/2026 at 12:39, Demon Disciple said:

The old adage no news is good news definitely does not ring true here.

I was definitely in favour of replacing the likes of Pert and Roffey due to their lack of progress regarding the home base. Guerra in particular and Smith come in chests beating, yet it’s as quiet as it has ever been.

Honestly us Demonlanders could probably do a better job at getting this whole saga moving in a positive direction. [censored].

Well I gave it a try and got some genuine but limited support (from Dlanders) and total ignorance from the club itself (questions put to Pert at and after AGM). I think most other attempts also foundered as the committee pursued its own efforts and rebuffed any alternatives.

I am still hoping for any positive reports on Caulfield which has some obvious attractions but unlike Redleg I will be unlikely to visit.

I still maintain the club centre should be an accommodation, entertainment, retail site where supporters can gather to watch training but can attend when we have away or sold out games. As an administrative centre it would also improve member interaction and strengthen the club.

Wow Thanks everyone. This has ignited so many memories and begun some new experiences.

One of the fortunates born in the 50s with a mother who was a fantastic singer and performer at amateur levels I was surrounded by music. Had an influence with school mated older brothers who exposed me to raw American blues, European avant garde Mediterranean and middle east emerging sounds.(most of which mum did not like.

I migrated to Melb and have always quoted the phrase" I spent most of my money on live music drugs and alcohol and wasted the rest". I became an audience. I always ended a gig by talking with the musicians to personally thank them for the joy they gave me. Most bands and artists wouldnt remember me but I have spoken with nearly all the people you have mentioned plus many even more obscure (including international artists who were surprisingly approachable in those times).

Live music is the best antidote to every ill of life. Music should be a mandatory subject for all kids and adults as it not only ignites creativity but enhances universal skills of communication and language and is a base for understanding mathematics.

I dont get out as much as I used to but still enjoy every foray into any live music environment. Im the one who always throws a donation to any busker to encourage them to continue. I also always said that listening to a bad performance makes you appreciate the outstanding even more.

Please Keep up the conversation as as been said you are introducing me to some music I would never have seen and please let me know of any music coming to Beechworth, where we have Tanswells supporting live music always.

We have an Airbnb (Lochwood Cottage) which accomodates 8 and has been offered to Demon supporters in raffles and can be offered to bands and dees supporters at reduced rates if you contact us direct. (Always subject to availability).

On 13/01/2026 at 23:59, red and blue forever said:

hAHaha, my comedy list has to wait for approval... considering the previous list.....

Thanks for the introduction to some new material and a reprise of some.

I think I may have seen Ozgur Baba at Womad, or at least someone very similar.

7 hours ago, Go Ds said:

Don't forget that every player, and staff member, is an individual. For all we know there were too many personality clashes and too many unforgivable incidents that meant Tracc and Clarry would never slot in ever again at the Dees. That also means that potentially that all three of Melbourne, Petracca and Oliver - ALL now unburdened - have great seasons ..... that NONE would have had even if Goody stayed or King turns out to be the best coach ever.

Again dont disagree, but we dont know. It just adds another dimension to the season.

I too hope King is the best coach ever

9 hours ago, Macca said:

I'm not sure that all involved at the club knew how to deal with success. All the rest of what happens, if that occurs, follows down a similar path

An example of how to do deal with success might be our very own Norm Smith and the club, back in the day. But even that went all pear-shaped in the end

Not sure about regrets though. It is what it is and you move on and start again

hopefully learn from the experience and there is enough corporate memory to not repeat any errors. It is the hope with King.

19 hours ago, Macca said:

Clarrie is no longer our player and the reason he is elsewhere is because of his own doing

Look at the reasons ... only one club was really interested and they got him for half price along with not having to give up any worthwhile picks to attain him

He was damaged goods and he needed a new start. And we needed a new start without him

And in my view, his offloading was a MC and FD move ratified by the Board (that happens by default)

Certainly, King would have had a say but it should be remembered that we were trying to offload Clarrie long before King was even thought of as the Head Coach

But I bear no ill will against the bloke at all. In fact, I hope he can get it together again. It's pointless holding grudges

Along with Petracca, he'll forever be remembered as an integral factor in the 2021 premiership

As Ive said before Macca, and I dont disagree with what you say, and I certainly dont know all or perhaps any of the reality of the past, the future will tell. The club will need to improve .

If Clarrie and Tracc thrive in their new environments and become a match winning force then I will regret that our club did not have the ability to find and use that force.

In any circumstance I will still support the Dees as I have always done.

10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It’s an atrocious injury list at this time of year considering they’ve just had a 3 week break and we haven’t had any serious practice matches yet.

Hopefully things settle down and we’ll only have Bowey missing for round 1.

I recall that Workcover injury analysis showed that workplace injuries occur at a heightened rate after holidays. A combination of a relaxed attitude and less fitness for the rigours of work. Its a time for heightened awareness of loads.

1 hour ago, dpositive said:

I think Julia Gillard once said this not everything but it is something.

In her parting speech on 26 June Gillard made her own pronouncement. “It doesn’t explain everything, it doesn’t explain nothing,” she said. “It explains some things and it is for the nation to think in a sophisticated way about those shades of grey.”

and she doesnt even support Melbourne Football Club .

We should nominate her for the Board.

I think Julia Gillard once said this not everything but it is something.

54 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

A progress announcement has been very close a couple of times but is subject to confirmation on government funding. Club, AFL, sponsor and benefactor funding for the project is confirmed.

If the State Gov funding falls through, the former and current (to a degree) board only have themselves to blame for ignorantly giving this project a scope of 3-4km radius from the MCG for near on 10 years. The likes of PM as you have mentioned are sites that originally came and went because of their lack of proximity to the G.

and a lack of vision, innovation and negotiation.

I have attended AGM and spoken with board members and am certainly aware of the effort they devote and the passion they have for the club. it is partly the reason I have not pursued the Fishermans Bend project any further. I did receive some indication of support through Dland members but little beyond that and certainly not at the more influential and board level.

I believe there have been many opportunities to be involved in the development of the FB precincts. the total site once overseen by a separate board is now under the direct supervision of Department of Transport. It is still proposed to establish a community of 80,000. There is an opportunity to develop a social community footprint (as indicated by Praha) close to the Port of Melbourne and the Ron Barassi senior oval.

A comprehensive entertainment , retail, commercial centre could provide a destination centre for that community and a transport hub for the emerging population. The matter of transport has indeed been a significant issue on development but one which should be exploited with a visionary approach. I also felt the exploration of an alternative site would hasten negotiations.

I regret the lack of that vision but align myself with the club and the Caulfield project. Until it is abandoned or completed I will watch with interest and support the club.

On 04/12/2025 at 18:05, beelzebub said:

Here's an idea...

Ive never understood why we cant just have a home strip (this one) red and Blue

and a reverse colour blue and red.

surely can avoid any clash with those two.

Its the Eddie argument " we have black and white and white and black" but with real sense.

13 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I’m not discounting what he did but he has not been the same player for 2.5 seasons and the numbers do not tell the story. I don’t see him getting back to his best and whilst I still think he will have some good games, he will never reach the heights of his pre 2023 seasons

9 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Must be remembered when a new coach is installed after the previous coach has been sacked after a decline in the clubs fortunes its not business as usual anymore. A new coach will identify toxic influences and remove them no matter how high in the club pecking order. Oliver has been identified as a toxic influence so be it.

These two comments tell the story strongly influenced by ignorance of what has really happened. The future will tell.

If Oliver gets back to paly a positive role it indicates our club still lacks some features of player management. If our team doea as well as i expect we will see that the change was needed. Our new coach seems to be progressing with a new team and a new attitude at the moment.

Im positive we have missed many opportunities, ignored many options and remain ignorant of relationships. I was also disappointed at the AGM announcement. It has been reported that our VP has recognised shortcomings.

I am also positive that our team including demonland trackwatchers are focused on another season at Goschs and Casey where we have facilities which can produce a premiership. Our administrators and support staff will have to work harder and smarter.

Oliver is an indicator of the club performance.

He was traded to improve club performance. From a financial perspective the report at the AGM seems to indicate it has been handled well. How other (all) players perform will be the measure of how well this was handled.

this is a complex issue which requires far mor nuanced explanantion which requires far greater knowledge of facts than we have access to. I trust and support the club but certainly hope it works out well for both us and Oliver.

Hes on our list ahead of many others not on lists, so has some attributes.

I agree that if he is playing regularly we may be i for a poor season but he can offer some backup and support.

There may be a time when we can/must rest our prime options and can play our support options.

It will be up to the coaches to get the best use from the whole squad for the whole season Selection must be made on form and the opposition.

19 hours ago, demoncat said:

100% agree

Our social media presence has improved markedly over the last few months and I hope we’re considering an overhaul of our logo/branding too

There is so much potential to lean into and incorporate the demon, plus we already have an inspired retro option with the flame head which could be repurposed if we wanted to go in that direction

Oh and get rid of “Demon Spirit” while you’re at it - it doesn’t mean anything and we’ve had plenty of better slogans in the past (I was always partial to “Give em Hell”)

There was a bit of comment on the emblem and slogans.

I wasparticularly affected by those suggesting "GO Dees" was insipid.

As i said to one who suggested that they have obviously not sat in front of me and my mates.

WE also use the GoDees as a syncopated cry as the ball is quickly transferred from one player to another.

Whatever cry you use it is all in the context of the passion of the delivery.

Just now, dpositive said:

Hey Red is your horse a good thing. If we all put a small amount on, it could compound to be enough to fund the project.

or is this also dependent on MRC discussions.

Im not encouraging you to gamble

Im encouraging you to bet

20 hours ago, Redleg said:

Well that could help with getting more sponsorship which will help the bottom line and provide some more money for Caulfield.

Btw I have a horse running there on Saturday, so will try and get a bit of info from MRC Committee persons.

Hey Red is your horse a good thing. If we all put a small amount on, it could compound to be enough to fund the project.

or is this also dependent on MRC discussions.

7 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Is anyone going the AGM at 6.30 tonite?

I'll be there

Sorry cant make it down again this time.

Housekeeping duties for the AirBnB prevail

Have a great day

I like many aspects of discussion.

I do think that the choral/vocal range of the example needs some work.

Any proposal needs to be small vocal range and still recognisable when full participation of unsophisticated crowd.

Different pace can be used to encourage participation.

Tigerland still the benchmark for me with the gutteral "yellow and black" always having full participation

Our own ad libbed rhetorical "What do we sing" is the closest match but doesnt always inspire the same participation.

Of course the result winning is always significant.