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The Watts 'don't argue' was the highlight of the night for me. Would love it if someone could put that up on youtube.

For those who have been at training over summer, is Cale actually looking that much bigger? Also, that article is pretty average in some ways. I mean, what sort of idiot would say Tayte Pears is at the crossroads?

He did play for us for over a decade, I think that is showing loyalty. To be honest, I understand why he wanted to leave. It's quite obvious that he asked the club if he would receive a new contract if he played well in 2011, and when they couldn't assure him of that, he decided to walk. I'm also of the opinion that he left so late because he wanted to stay at the MFC, and as such, he wanted to give them every opportunity to accept his terms. They didn't, and now he has left - that's it. It remains to be seen how big of an impact his absence will have next year, but he was a very good player for us over a number of years (including parts of last year), so to see many of the posters in this thread having a go at him is a touch disappointing.

I don't get the people saying that Moloney's actions will assist in toughening the kids up, if anything Moloney neeeds to toughen up. It sounds like he got [censored] off at a rookie for beating him and, in turn, used the minimal contact as an excuse to take it out on him. Pretty poor form if you ask me, especially from someone who appears to have leadership aspirations. On another note, it's good to hear that Campbell is already having a positive impact on the younger rucks at the club. I think he'll be a valuable addition for us, even if he doesn't manage to play many games.

To me, as long as the club is seeing some benefit from my support, then it's all good. Even if they would prefer me to buy a membership, I'm sure they are grateful for my support in any case. Your posts are full of contradiction. You insult my intelligence whilst failing to comprehend what I'm saying, you say I'm getting worked up when you're the one continually bagging me for being weak, a fairweather supporter and a pea-heart, you say you want the club to shed its elitist tag, yet you won't accept anyone as a supporter unless they buy a membership which doesn't give them any personal benefit. Also, when you say things like 'wow, you buy some clothes' I could simply respond with 'wow, you buy a membership.' At the end of the day, both are mechanisms through which to support the club, yet you feel superior for some reason which I can't comprehend. All I know is that there certainly isn't a logical or rational reason for your mindset, you just like to think that you're a 'true supporter' of the club whilst others who choose to do things differently aren't. Thanks mate, you're one of the few individuals within this thread who can view things objectively and intelligently. Perhaps one day I will become a member, but for now I will continue consuming and I will continue to support the club and its associated players. Another great post, and I hope all goes well for you and your family next year. I agree on the MCC membership point too, it really does offer great value.

Is this directed at me or is it more of a general statement? Mate, how is saying that I go to games and buy merchandise from the MFC store vague? It's clear and it's easily understandable unless you're a moron. Also, it's rather myopic to suggest that there is only one way to support the club, bordering on ridiculous in fact. Well, this year I bought a new jumper, a t-shirt and one of those singlets (which I kind of regret buying because I can't pull it off as well as Col Sylvia did in the catalogue). What does that add up to? Somewhere around $200 I guess.

I agree that you do a great service for the club, and you are to be commended for that. It just isn't for me. In the real world, membership numbers may be a badge of honour, but merchandise sales and attendance numbers also help the club as well, and those are the areas in which I choose to contribute. Nowhere did I say buying a membership is elitist, if your ability to comprehend the English language was at a higher level, you would know this. What I did say, however, is that it is elitist for people to view others as an inferior type of supporter if they don't buy one. You are one of these individuals who doesn't appear to acknowledge the other mechanisms through which someone can support the club, and instead, see membership as the only way to do it. Just because someone has a different approach to supporting the club, it does not make them any less of a supporter, at least not in my eyes. As I and others have said above, any type of support for the club should be welcomed and embraced.

Yeah, good post, and one that isn't as myopic as some of the others in this thread. Really, what does it matter if I buy a membership or not? I support the club through other means, such as attending games and buying merchandise. That's how I choose to do it, largely because I don't want a membership that doesn't offer me a great deal. That's just my opinion, and I'm sure there are others floating around this site who hold a similar viewpoint that don't have the nuts to say so. Either that, or they just purchase a membership anyway so they don't feel inadequate amongst the clowns who choose to brand people as fairweather fans if they don't have one. As Junior pointed out, all levels of support should be welcomed, and to me, those holding an elitist 'if you don't buy a membership then you're not a true supporter' mindset are morons.

I hear what you're saying, and I admire you for parting with some of your cash for the good of the club, but from my point of view, I want my money to offer me something in return. I'm happy to buy merchandise from the club shop - jumpers, t-shirts and the like - but when it comes to simply handing over cash for no apparent reason, it just isn't for me. Perhaps my perception will change in time, and romantic notions such as the one you're peddling will mean more to me, but at the moment, I'm thinking about things in a more objective manner. As I said above, these romantic ideals currently mean little to me. I'm a big fan of the MFC, I hardly miss a match, can name every player on the list and their associated strengths and weaknesses, but due to the way I value my money, I don't wish to fork out for a membership which offers very little. Buying someone implies an exchange, yet when you buy one of these so-called memberships, no benefit is forthcoming. This is why I prefer to buy MFC-related products of my choosing, and I probably spend more on those than I would on any membership. Oh, but I forgot, you need to sacrifice something for nothing in order to be considered a true supporter. Well, sorry, I don't buy into such notions.

I'm cool. Not into spending money on nothing, doesn't make sense to me. So purchasing merchandise from the MFC store is not a mechanism through which to support the club? You were talking about attempting to diminish the club's elitist image earlier, yet your comments within this thread only serve to reinforce it.

Yeah, I would prefer to buy something from the MFC store that I actually want, which I do on occasion, to assist the club, rather than paying for a membership which is largely futile for someone like me. It's weak and indicative of character to have a dig at a fellow MFC supporter because they have a different value system to yours. I'm only being honest, yet you feel the need to insult me because of it. Pathetic. In your opinion, pal.

I sleep like a baby, so I fail to see how that will help. The price of an MCC membership, in itself, is more than enough of an outlay for me. That's it. I don't hate the club, but why would I buy something that isn't going to offer me any additional value?

I'm an MCC member who doesn't fork out the additional money for an MFC membership. Think of me what you will, I really don't care.

Tapscott, Scully and Trengove are all private school boys as well, so I see no real correlation between attending a private school and a lack of intensity.

It's 100% true that a verbal agreement constitutes a legally binding contract between the two parties. Having said that, I don't think there is much point discussing it at the moment, given that all signs point to Jack happily agreeing to join the MFC in the future.