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Dom Tyson out there?
Apparently did a hamstring last week.
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Its not just Dawes. For almost as long as I can remember we have always had maby good players constantly out with injuries.
Do we do proper medicals? It does my head in. Clark Dawes Grimes Evans Taggart Trengove Jamar Ect
Obviously it is a big impact if players cannot get on the park and it is useless to constantly draft or trade for players who spend more time in the stands then playing.
Surely medicals could see the difference between a N Jones, Tmac or Watts who are rarely injured then a Dawes or Evans.
There is obviously an element of luck, but I agree that Clark and Dawes were injury prone prior to being traded to Melbourne. We knew the risks and to this point, both players have been a fail. Unfortunately, we ‘re not in a powerful position at the drafting table and options are limited.
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Out Dawes, in Hogan. Yeah...I'm shattered.
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IF Josh K rumour true we have wasted pick 2. Big if.
Why is that? Kennedy, Tyson and Jones would form an elite clearance machine…if this happened, I would put money on Melbourne giving the 8 a run.
Daydreaming, the closest we ever get to the finals.
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He is way better than anyone from this draft, including Boyd.
Your missing the point, Tyson fits our needs more so than than any player in the top end of the draft. It has nothing to do with being better.
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Don't agree.
Trengove will have a huge 2014.
In the VFL...
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Why do people feel compelled to even mention this guy, he was rubbish the first time, move on people.
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Sylvia is a better footballer than Vince - perhaps not in 2009, but definitely in 2014.
That said, I think Vince will be a better footballer for the MFC in 2014 than Sylvia.
I agree that Sylvia is a better footballer but he is not a natural midfielder. Vince is and will fill our needs more than a forward that can pinch hit in the middle
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Mahoney has already said there doesn't look like a trade will be done for a single player.
So that rules out shiel
I don't think so, there is no reason why the trade could not involve players and picks.
The Ox was very strong again last night that Shiel would be heading to the dees later in the trade period. He obviously knows something but I still don't think he feels it's locked in stone.
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Young Viv might be a great bloke and might have heaps of talent and he might get over the spate of injuries that have so far cruelled his playing career.
What concerns me is that a lot of us are seemingly going overboard about possibly recruiting a bloke who has played 1 senior match in three years.
It must have been a most impressive performance that day, or am I missing something?
You’re not missing anything, he has achieved stuff all at AFL level yet everyone is drooling over him.
If he comes that’s great, I just hope we have negotiated a good deal which might explain the delay.
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I can categorically state that Viv is a better than McKenzie. I'll add Bail, Matt Jones, Magner and Evans to that also.
The guy is a player.
Jesus, this guy must be a superstar
Whatever it takes, get him
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For us anyway.
Why the hell would Sydney trade one of their best players in Hannabery?
Doesn't make any sense.
Is it possible they need to open up some more salary cap space?
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And forget draft number and talent.
Cale Morton supposedly had talent and went at number 4. Yarran has more talent in his left toe nail.
I think you have made your point, shortly we will see whether the footy department are in agreeance…
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I would argue that 95 % of the football world would say Yarran possesses sublime skills, yep.
I don't know what you smoke.
He turns the ball over Steve, yep.
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That's the response of someone who is guilty but will not admit to it. I've had many disagreements with you over the years about certain players who I have had a shot at (sometimes unfairly, sometimes not) and you have defended them for development reasons. I'm not going digging for quotes.
Out of interest, do you think Jack Watts will ever improve the areas of his game that are holding him back as a player? How about others on our list?
Why do you believe Yarran is too far gone? Is it because he plays for another club? A club in which you have no bias toward?
C'mon pal. The guy has a sublime set of skills, and as rjay has alluded to below, he almost has the same weaknesses as Watts to work on.
There would be people out there in the football world who could develop and address the two ingredients that these two are missing.
Work ethic and playing with a sense of urgency and intensity. If we are going to poach and employ the 'best' people to take this club forward from here on in, (which is what PJ consistently tells us) I would have no problems in trading for Yarran.
Haha, Sublime skills…..
Yarran turns the ball over monotonously, don’t be sucked in by his occasional brilliance.
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Spot on nutbean.
Another trial coach will be the last MFC coach
This is possibly true.
I just hope we don’t take an expectant approach once an experienced coach is appointed.
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I wouldn't get your hopes up on Ratten.
Assistant coaches rarely move on after only 1 year, unless there are extenuous circumstances.
Ratten went to Carlton because of his ties to the club and the real opportunity to become head coach eventually.
Ratten is winning at Hawthorn, experiencing a strong culture, and would not be stepping into the top spot at MFC.
He's also not worth raving about.
Let it go...
He certainly deserves more thought than your giving him. Melbourne would be negligent in their search for a new coach if Ratten was not at least considered.
The fact he is at Hawthorn experiencing their strong culture as you put it, only further enhances his appeal.
If Melbourne offered him the coaching role, I would be shocked if he didn’t take it in a heartbeat. Coaching is in his blood and as someone else pointed out, he has unfinished business.
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Taylor Adams will not come to melbourne. Already had talks with richmond, hawthorn, carlton with Geelong also sounding out his manager.
That’s the kind of defeatist attitude that has gotten us into this mess.
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Assuming we get a priority pick.
Pick 1 to GWS for Adams and pick 2.
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I'm hearing some pretty strong Choco/Dustin Martin package deal rumours...
Do elaborate?
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They signed waivers, could they sue?
I missed the end, what did the panel of "experts" have to say?
The panel of so called experts was made up almost entirely of ex footballers who Typically, all sided with James and the Essendon Football club. It was hardly ground breaking, infact the whole interview and subsequent show failed to uncover anything new, it just further muddied the waters.
It’s impossible to pass judgement on this until the report is released, rumoured to be today.
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The current results are hardly a ringing endorsement for our captains.
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I feel as though I'm about to fall out. Give me a hand ?
I didn’t realise you were going out with young Kate, I look forward to seeing her in a Melbourne jumper!
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The board's decision on Monday was the right decision. If MN continues with this performance he isn't going to be coaching next year - that's a reality that all pro and anti-Neeld supporters have to face.
What they have essentially done is let him know that that by putting him on notice and given him a chance to change to change it.
That's a luxury no other coach has been given in this situation.
It also puts the players on notice. No player likes it when their coach gets axed. From what I heard a big concern was the effect axing Neeld would have on the players who have improved under him (Garland, Jones, Davey ect.), the young developing players who like Neeld (Terlich, Viney Evans) and the playing group as a whole.
This way the playing group are also on notice - their lack of effort is tied with their coaches fate.
From what I've seen alot of people like this strategy, even anti-Neeld supporters.
Its a win win win:
Win for our financials in that if he stays for the rest on the year we save $200,000
Win for Mark in that has a benchmark he can improve and show why he should continue next year
Win for the players to be given a chance to back their coach rather than him getting axed straight away
They clearly have some support in the sense they are giving him a chance - don't believe the polarizing by the media that the only person who supported him was PJ.
Next time drop the personal attacks.
Forget the performance for the rest of the year, the reality is Mark Neeld will not be coaching this football side next year and therefore should be moved on in the very near future.
I’m not sure that we should be too concerned about possible affects this may have on players that have improved under MN……..
Ian Ziering as a development coach
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Haha, quite possibly the most lame, yet thoroughly enjoyable film I have seen in some time