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Adam The God

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  1. On 28/06/2025 at 22:57, Howard_Grimes said:

    The theory that we had/have 'the most demanding' game style as being a reason for our poor performances is just another excuse pushed out to the front of the queue, masking the more pressing issues that have plagued us for a long time.

    It's the same brigade that spruik the 'loading' talk.

    And whilst I value Binman's thoughtfulness, articulation and deep-dive into all things stats, I think this place has turned into an echo-chamber of sorts thanks to some of the same excuses getting far too much airtime.

    The idea and theory that we are not fit enough is just wild and flies in the face of the excuse of the last few years around not having our best players on the park. We've had arguably the best run with injury of all clubs this year, a much kinder draw and now the goal posts have been shifted by the same brigade toward 'mini rebuild/game-plan teething' issue.

    Every year an excuse is thrown up and pushed to the front and it's a rinse and repeat situation with a handful of the same ones on rotation. All the while, the symptoms persist and issues remain.

    Perhaps the idea of over-complicating some pretty straight forward corrections is just a more interesting pastime for some and is also a less painful lens to look through? That's how I see it.

    Now having said all of this, it's not that I'm entirely counting out any influence that these 'rinse and repeat reasons' might have had along the way. They're wholeheartedly interlinked to the ACTUAL issues that plague us.

    Take the idea/theory that we don't look 'fit enough' as an example.

    And perhaps I can insert myself into this example as I've experienced it in real time myself during my footballing days to a high level I might add.

    If you work your [censored] off all game both offensively and defensively, to create space, shut down space, support, become an option, be used as an option and your team mates more often than not butcher the ball around the ground but more importantly on transition/turnover and going inside 50, you are going to experience some pretty significant fatigue.

    Now the fatigue won't just be physical if this trend continues, (which for Melb it does), the fatigue also becomes mental. It makes you question whether or not you should run to make that space if a particular player who is prone to turning the ball over may be flying through the middle only to kick with absolutely no care.

    Now if you span this out over a season or even seasons, you can see how this fatigue can manifest in all sorts of ways.

    But. The easy thing to say is, 'oh we're just not fit enough'.

    No.

    The same entirely goes with loading.

    I would put far more emphasis on the idea of mental fatigue being the more significant factor game to game with us, in part because of what I outlined above. But not limited to. I'd also say match-day crowds at the G, personal life, motivation levels, belief in Goody, the system, each other. All of these factors I'd have ahead of loading. Yet they can't be measured so nobody wants to talk about them whereas the idea of loading can be used an excuse for a loss! Or at least contribute to the 'fatigue' posters see in a loss.

    Also no.

    Our issues are simply tied to our list and to the coach. Plain, simple, boring and some would say negative. List imbalance and a coach who has been too slow and too stubborn to move forward from what won us a flag.

    Of course it's easier to look at 'outside factors' because it feels better and it makes for interesting hypothesising. But it's just that.

    Some of this is fair, but your centrepiece of mental fatigue doesn't really hold given the amount of best 22 changes over the last 4 years. It's practically half the best 22, and it's the old players that are the ones butchering it and struggling to come to terms with the new way the team is trying to play.

    It's more likely, as you imply, a multitude of factors at play, which @binman has always stressed.

  2. Dangerfield is a marginally better kick (per DE), but the big difference between the two players is Trac's TOG is quite a bit higher.

    In order to get more out of Trac, maybe we need to play him more in bursts like they do Dangerfield.

    I'd be trading Clarry before Trac though...

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    2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    It was very much wokey virtue signalling by the MFC. There was no compulsion to do so.

    Gambling can be a problem without doubt. It's also a personal decision.

    As a business decision... it's dubious that we benefit.

    If we still had PJ as a CEO or had had a competent CEO it wouldn't have mattered. Pert failed to capitalise on the bonanza of a flag. If the commercial team had held a fundraiser before the start of 2022, they'd have probably raised whatever we need for Caulfield...

    You have to live your values a bit. As the club said at the time, gaming is not our core business, and whilst gaming was imperative in the past, we need to grow our football-related income. Pert had a golden opportunity to do that and sat on his hands.

    We need to look at ways to grow the business and not also contribute to destroying lives through gaming. It's not woke, it's corporate responsibility.

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    10 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

    I'd say the Hawks also used a similar undersized key defensive structure last year. IMO they look worse with a clunky Barass and Sicily there now.

    Im very keen to see AMW return as I feel he has similar traits to Hibberd, tough, super aggressive and fast.

    IMO Salo has had a very good year, and our current game style feeds into his skill set. He was often criticized for not taking on aggressive kicks but we need to reliably chip the ball in our back half to rebound.

    The Hawks have done the undersized thing at both ends.

    I think Collingwood have shown the way in terms of undersized set ups at both ends of the ground. If you have speed of ball movement or are slinging back into a relatively empty 50, their pace by foot and handball game is certainly difficult to contain, despite having shorter players.

    it doesn't mean we have to play this way mind you. Because we have shown we can contain the Collingwood game.

  5. 8 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    Collingwood run with Moore and Frampton and then have Howe as the third tall, who is a similar size to Howes but obviously has a big leap.

    It can definitely be beneficial at ground level and playing the rebound game, but it means our mids need to put on a lot of pressure. If they don't Suns will take easy marks inside 50.

    But it doesn't matter who you have defending, if the midfield pressure isn't on, any defensive unit will get scored on.

    So I think it's a respectable gamble.

    Collingwood have more run than us with Crisp, Maynard and Quaynor to our Bowey, McVee and Salem.

    We'd be more comparable if Rivers stayed at half back, probably at the expense of Salem or ultimately Lever.

  6. 32 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

    Massive step up for Blake and Disco. Huge faith from the match committee to trust these two as our key defensive pillars, pushing out 2 premiership players is no small feat.

    Out with the old, in with the new!

    I am excited to see how they go.

    Collingwood used an undersized defensive back 7 in 2022-2023, but it allowed them to be good at ground level and ping quickly off half back.

    Salo is the next one in the gun I reckon. If he had a bit more speed, he'd be perfect back there. That said, his leadership and experience will probably be needed if Lever is on thin ice generally and May is edging towards the cliff.

    With this last block of games, I hope they give the back 6-7 some continuity together. Likewise, we need to find a forward mix soon enough, instead chopping and changing. I think mostly because JVR has had such a poor year as a forward, it's thrown out our forward mix.

    Blake has really good endurance, but he's also a nice, neat kick. Good luck again, Blake.

  7. 31 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

    Massive step up for Blake and Disco. Huge faith from the match committee to trust these two as our key defensive pillars, pushing out 2 premiership players is no small feat.

    Out with the old, in with the new!

    Lever is out. Who is the other?

  8. I'm excited to see how our defensive set up functions with May, Turner and Howes, they might be a little big for us, but I like that we made the call on Lever. I'm not convinced we can play both of May and Lever in the same team. They slow our ball movement down too much and are slow to defend plays now.

    At the other end of the ground though is where it's going to be most interesting. Melksham, Jefferson and Petty with Fritta and Kozzy. Petty will, I assume, take second ruck duties.

    Having Melksham down there will hopefully give Jefferson some support against the taller interceptor like Andrew, but more likely Collins. So that should allow Jefferson to fly for the ball.

    Kozzy needs to go bezerk and Melky and Fritta need to contribute strongly on the scoreboard if we're any chance here.

    We need a redemption story with our mids. They were dreadful in the corresponding game earlier in the year, so they need to lock down on Rowell in particular IMO, so I'd be fine with a hard tag there from Viney, and I'd be happy for Oliver to go head to head with Anderson, and for Trac and Kozzy to go against Miller and co.

    As is the story most weeks, bring our kicking boots and we're a chance, particularly early in the game, otherwise you can forget it.

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    4 hours ago, Deestar9 said:

    In the interview Brad Green gave, he intimated we had a good senior group of players ..an up & coming very good group of younger players but maybe we were missing the 26 yr plus players. This is the age group that the Pies have topped up with …

    I think you could make the argument that this actually goes back to the 2007-2011 list management decisions that left a gap in Max and TMac age demo, which meant instead of having those guys, we had to spend picks on acquiring the Mays, Melkshams, Hibberds.

    So we're still playing catch up with the next generation and it's probably something that will only right itself if we keep making good decisions as we build that next core.

  10. 2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

    … and Luker, don’t forget Luker!

    Well, I have time for Adams as well. And I left put Howes, who I think will be a handy player, but I was more wanting to illustrate that every player I mentioned had shown something at AFL level.

  11. 1 hour ago, old dee said:

    A very good question joeboy. The answer is as you allude to! The majority are average at best. Average players don't win games. Good and very good players win games, finals and flags.

    Except taking a dig at our young talent based on this year's performance is like taking a dig at our young talent in 2019 or 2020. Strawman.

  12. 1 minute ago, poita said:

    All of those named are already in the senior side and several are already among our best performers. Who is on the list who is going to break into our senior side in the next year or two and add something significant that we don't currently have? I don't have great hopes for anyone currently at Casey making the grade.

    I don't rate particularly Carlton's young talent either, but they do have Jagga Smith to bring in from round 1 next year.

    It's quite well known that the more games you get into youngsters, the more they'll be able to impose themselves on games.

    When McVee, Langford, Lindsay start to impact games and stay in contests for longer, run harder, concentrate for longer, as we've seen with Kozzy, they have the potential to change the way we play.

    We have been on a list shift since the end of 2023. We're resetting on the run and it's making for some ugly results and a very poor ladder position.

    We need some aggressive trading and list management this year (again), and we'll start to see more improvement. But to imply we've got little emerging talent is nonsense.

  13. Just now, joeboy said:

    Please advise who is the ‘promising young talent’ you speak of at Melbourne

    McVee, Windsor, Lindsay, Langford, Turner and Bowey is a pretty good start. Add JVR, Kolt and maybe even Picket's mate and we've got some good developing youth. Along with Chandler, Kozzy and Rivers on the next age bracket up.

    Please advise whether you support Melbourne. Thanks very much.

  14. 47 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

    The facts are that God wouldn't get a kick in our forward line with the lack of kicking skills and decision-making by the midfield players bringing the ball in.

    I don't buy this train of thought.

    We don't have trouble getting it in there. We have trouble converting.

    Ironically, McKay probably doesn't help with that.

  15. 2 hours ago, layzie said:

    Someone told me the other day we're about 20,000 behind what we were this time last year, is that the case?

    We never actually had 70,000 physical members. Definitely a significant membership drop off though.