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16 hours ago, DeeZone said:

To me Hawthorn is the strangest story they gave up Glenferie Oval as home base to move to Waverley which they touted as being the best of all worlds and yet they are now moving to Dingley the new Mecca. I wonder what the Hawks fans think??

I am glad that we are holding out for our home base to be close to our place of origin, we are Melbourne so need to stay close to our roots and CBD. If it takes longer to achieve it so be it,  it will be well worth it.!!

Rode past Glenferrie on the train a few weeks back which was an opportunity to be reminded of what a rubbish venue it was and remains. Suitable for high school footy and not much else.

On 10/19/2022 at 2:45 AM, Brownie said:

We were that club before intervention and Paul Roos. I really feel for their supporters. They don't deserve this. Rebuild then rebuild then rebuild then rebuild.

Sound familiar?

They're not irrelevant, they are essential to a vibrant competition as are Norf.

Be angry at the clubs that seem to get gifted a ride by the AFL.

Maybe there's a new thread. Would the demons have won a flag without AFL assistance? Mmmm

 

And now they have Dave Misson so they really are on our track. 

Good luck to them as long as they don't come up against us finals time.

3 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

Your email address is not the gateway to your soul, people.
 

Does the idea of receiving one unsolicited email genuinely bother anyone here? 
 

I mean, it seems to. I genuinely don’t understand why, though. 

 

 

 

Yeah, it's not like it would be from that Nigerian prince who has been hassling me to pay for his palace renovations.

12 hours ago, deespicable me said:

Does this mean Collingwood should have a dog on their board.

Dogs are cool so that would be a 'no'.

7 hours ago, DeelightfulPlay said:

Mate, the club would literally be breaching the Privacy Act if they provided the email addresses without consent.  There are very few circumstances where disclosing personal information to a third party is permitted.

If members had previously consented to providing such info, such as by accepting a privacy policy which detailed such a disclosure, then it would likely be fine.  

It's a curious one. An email address is just that and easily changed. it reveals next to nothing.

A postal address reveals where you live, unless you have a post office box, and is potentially more sensitive than a location in the ether.

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

The Age is reporting that Peter Lawrence is taking the club to court to get members’ details. 
 

@george_on_the_outer - do you want to address that? I am not sure I support the cost and distraction this will cause. 

OTOH the cost could be avoided if he was provided with the details in order to put his case...

4 hours ago, DemonWA said:

The two doggies lads that we've picked up are almost no names to me 

It was Hunter who got them started in the GF second quarter with two goal assists.

Cannot help but feel some sympathy for Jaegar O'Meara. Once he was flavour of the month, missed two seasons with injury but was still sought after.

Too bad his second club was the amazingly ruthless Family Club where the only welcome relatives are the young cousins. Older uncles - like Jaegar - are turfed once they hit 30.

O'Meara is a talent and his reward has been to play in one (losing) final in a career of 140-odd games. I was snakey when he went to Hawthorn who at the time had the depth to take a gamble on his rehab. It was a risk we could not afford, but it's all one way with the Hawks in the Clarkson-Mitchell era. So now he is looking at a third club. At least he might see finals again if he lands with Freo.

The bigger issue is what it means for the club. This strategy worked out for Clarkson a long time ago but it makes me wonder what it does to internal culture and fan loyalty to have so many respected players discarded seemingly without a moments regret.

Who were the players you would have thought during pre-season that we would have seen more of in 2022...Bedford?  Chandler? Laurie? JVR? Turner? the Smiths?

And what does your answer say about the potential for improvement in 2023?

Remember when speculation about sponsors occupied multiple pages and threads here, as often we didn't have any?

Remember the forlorn, forgotten club hanging out for a lifesaver until a supporter drummed up a certain Russian tech group?

Remember Jimmy courting a potential, and not to be named or patronised, sponsor only to have it snatched away at the death?

Be grateful those times are past.

This I can live with.

Clayton. 

The bigger question is - will he feel the need to apologise for a "sh$t speech" again, or has he been working on his presentation?

I don't think the issue was that we didn't recruit from other clubs. For mine I'd have liked more senior game time into the young developing players like Chandler, Bowey, Laurie and Turner. It is true of every coach. They have players they trust and those they trust they give extra opportunities to find form and these kids (mostly) haven't been give the opportunity.

Petty to move forward and Turner to be the developing third defender with Bowey distributing the ball off half back appeals to me. Obviously JVR is going to come in to senior calculations although like others mentioned it's overdue. Hopefully he stars and we all have to eat our words as the footy department is vindicated by his readiness to compete at the highest level.

I'm less keen about Grundy  he is not our need but the brains trust knows plenty I don't.

Baker has been mentioned here but he has not shown enough to be part of the discussion IMO. 

It was encouraging to hear Goody talk about changing the game plan. In hindsight we do seem to have been overtaken by several clubs.

2 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

You could of been their key forward today and they still would of belted the swans.

This is so mistaken. We routinely did what Geelong did in the first quarter - won contested footy, won clearances, and won inside 50s, but we could not turn it into the sort of domination the Cats had with Hawkins, Stengle, Cameron, Smith all threatening to score. And they did it with Hawkins only 50% effective. Forwards matter and so does efficiency and that's where we have to make up ground.

Very dignified speech from Dane Rampe. Tough job very well done.

Best game I've seen Mason Cox play that wasn't against us. 

Woods showing the value of efficiency. Should be almost out of this.

Partial screenshot from the Demonshop. For more about the book see https://www.betweentheflags57.com.au

D-lighted with the club picking this up and running with it.

Cannot see enough of Zorko, Berry and McCarthy right now.

8 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Well connected at Port, i think he works for the Powa in some capacity.

First heard of him 30 years ago so he's grounded in SA journalism, and is reputedly a Power fan as overt as Caro is a Tiger fan.

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

I don't believe a lack of desire was the reason we went out in straights sets.  We lost because of too many injured players and  a poor forward line set up with one KPF who was not at his best. 

As well, as I indicated above, the lack of will to work others through the group so that by the time the finals came around the idea of the 'unified group' meant the walking wounded remained. (Some of course, like CP5, are simply irreplaceable.) 

9 hours ago, CYB said:

Bad habits. I’d love to know what they think it is. 

Funny he mentioned Goody has to do some homework as well. Is that an admission of game plan failures? 

Im actually a bit disappointed that he is not as disappointed as I want him to be. 
 

 

Probably more reflection of the fact that you can't stand still, and maybe we did. Teams like Collingwood took on our style and outworked it. Remember the two starting players off the back of the square pre-666? You do need to develop changes each year or you're overtaken. There was not much innovation in us this year.

We certainly stayed fixated on the same group as well. It's only a guess but I think the lack of new players, or relative novices like Bedford and Bowey being given a chance in the last third of the year cost us in terms of energy and enthusiasm. Goody possibly stuck with the known factors too much. If at the start of the year you'd told me Laurie would not have played a senior game this year, and that Chandler would not resurface I'd have figured long term injury hit them. But no, they just did not get a chance.

JVR looking the goods.

Turner good judgement, reads it well.

Bowey's skills shining. 

TMac roaming like a battle cruiser.

Casey will take this easing up.

One debutant all year. Makes the best first year player an easy call.

But I would have liked to see some freshening up.

8 hours ago, Spaghetti said:

People commenting on crowd noise need to include a disclaimer if they were not there. Comments like “Sydney crowd seemed louder” just sounds like you were not there and have NFI. 

Must disagree. I was there and the Sydney noise second half amazed me. Even Robbo had to try to gee uo our mob at 3/4 time.

8 hours ago, Redleg said:

That result may be a blessing in disguise.

Win tonight and no changes and same midset and we could easily lose a PF.

I think if we regroup and make a few changes, we beat the Lions and take a different side and mentality into a PF which might get us another GF.

All is not lost, YET.

Now stop talking about winning it in front of family and friends. Ban interviews this week. Rejig the forward line, by bringing in another key forward Weid/Tom/JVR, get Bowey in and drop Melk and ANB.

 

Agree entirely.

We have seen that performance too often