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On 4/2/2023 at 10:09 PM, DeelightfulPlay said:

Not a big fan of the Weagles (2018 still rankles me), but do feel for them to have such significant outs.  

Have you ever dealt with any of their supporters?

I remember one of their [censored] players threatening sexual violence mid-game to the mother of one of our blokes who was ridiculed for becoming upset.

No sympathy.

(And their Americanised-name and colours are rubbish. Don't start me on their ad-jingle song. The entire outfit, name colours, song is an ad-man's wet dream.)

mongrel is an amazing website - very impressive analysis except I disagree Melbourne played "deliberately, cautiously".

We had serious play on intent with rapid ball movement looking to run through the corridor when possible, otherwise attacking via the flanks/pockets.

We lacked caution and played instinctive attacking football.

14 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Nah we got given some too. 

 

The free to Rooey in the last was dodgy. The Swan had no prior opportunity...but they paid several against us that way as well.

Hopeful, rather than confident today. Sixteen of the premiership players present, plus Hunter so 17 from the GF, No shortage of talent but the Swans have had the wood on us. Need a big game from Trac, Clarry and May/Lever. Pity no Kozzie. Hopefully he's learned.

21 hours ago, Action Jackson said:

So does this make us feel better about beating the Dogs or worse about losing to the Lions?

 

Definitely worse about losing to the Lions, particularly as that is two in a row, but they got us at a good time and in a good place for them.

Interesting that most of the tipsters in The Age have stayed with us for this week. Possibly they judge that last week was an aberration for our midfield down to Max's injury, the conditions and that weird thing that sometimes infects all teams of a generalised down game through the entire group.

We are expected to regroup. Given it's Sydney, a win is not guaranteed but a cracking game is.

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

I really hate how this and the tanking saga were just left to fester and people got the wrong idea.

Which is why the merger chapter in Between The Flags matters so much. 

On 3/22/2023 at 10:48 PM, Supreme_Demon said:

I cannot have any sympathy for Hawthorn. They have laughed at us and humiliated us many times over the years.

It is important to have long memories about the slights against us from the Hawks.

In my own memory, there's the 1987 Preliminary Final where Jimmy Stynes unfortunately ran through the mark and gave away a 15 metre penalty to allow Gary Buckenara to be "within reach" to kick that goal after the siren. I have had many Hawthorn supporters gleefully remind me of this.

Then in 1988 when the Demons got smashed in the Grand Final by 96 points by the Hawks. That was humiliating and you had Hawthorn supporters holding out print-outs saying "Suffer Demons".

Then there is the whole merger debacle in 1996 with Hawthorn. Luckily it never eventuated (thanks to Don Scott). But the stinging reminders by Hawthorn supporters that we voted "yes" to merge and become the "Melbourne Hawks" still irks me.

Then in 2013 or 2014 we had Hawks President Jeff Kennett and even Hawks Coach Alistair Clarkson (a former Melbourne Demons player) saying the Melbourne Football Club should be kicked out of the AFL or moved to the Gold Coast. Rudely commentating and disrespecting our Club.

I also personally remember walking out of a game at the MCG after we were losing by over 100 points against the Hawks, back in 2015, and being laughed at and ridiculed by Hawthorn supporters. The fact that I stayed up until that point in the game showed I was a glutton for punishment really!

But back to my point, we should never forget the insults made against our Club and grudges we have against Hawthorn. They hate us and we should hate them even more!

Also, you might remind Hawthorn supporters that it was Melbourne that killed their first attempt at a three-peat when we beat them twice in successive weeks - round 22 and the elimination final 1990.

On 3/22/2023 at 10:48 PM, Supreme_Demon said:

I cannot have any sympathy for Hawthorn. They have laughed at us and humiliated us many times over the years.

 

But the stinging reminders by Hawthorn supporters that we voted "yes" to merge and become the "Melbourne Hawks" still irks me.

 

No, we did not vote 'Yes' - the vote was riddled with irregularities and dubious conduct.

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

he is playing worse now than he did for us last season. so i guess he can’t be stuffed still? or maybe he is not that good  

bizarre comment. he played for us. did well and won and flag and moved on. i don’t get the ill will

Something about his manner suggest he still lacks the maturity to apply himself to fulfil his potential. Raw talent will go only so far. The AFL is full of talent, but then it becomes a matter of application to draw the best out of yourself.

LJ is not there yet. He is a bit of a doofus surviving on talent alone and may need a rocket to turn himself around. Rabid Freo fans will not cut him much slack so if it doesn't come from inside the club it will still come. Then we will discover whether we have won or lost on his departure.

American Pie for God's sake. Pretentious [censored]. Who chooses their music?

9 minutes ago, Melbournepotter said:

Melbourne's delivery into the 50 had been great tonight.....great at putting it down a Brisbane's defenders throat.

No forward structure. Lost our system entirely.

Angus having  a shocker.

7 hours ago, Winners at last said:

I hate them too. I was at the 87 Preliminary Final ... took a long while to get over. (We kinda lost it ourselves ... Campbell, Yeats, Eishold.) 

But I think it's overlooked that we would have been hammered the next week (in the GF) had we won the PF.

 

Interesting to reflect that under today's rules we would have won. Eishold would not have been put on that ridiculous angle and instead would have been marched out to the top of the goal square to nail down the coffin.

I would just like to thank you all for sharing your Borethorn schadenfreude.

And those who are yet to contribute, thank you in advance.

16 minutes ago, IRW said:

If it wasn't fair under the circumstances they would surely contest it 

Kossie was fortunate to get two.

Airborne,after the kick ,could have spoiled,could have caused a concussion. Obviously intentional .

 

 

Not smart either, coming as the legal cases for concussion compensation fire up.

Still, the inconsistency with Buddy' penalty is annoying. How many times has Buddy been reported/rubbed out?

The way certain clubs are treated is truly weird. Michael Christian must go. He is no good and never has been any good.

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Leigh Matthews was wary when asked whether players owe their opponents a duty of care.

“On the footy field, your duty of care is to play to the rules,” Matthews said.

This must be a joke !!! Leigh Matthews what a joke. His king hit on Peter Giles was one of worst hits of all time. 
And the Neville Bruns incident must be wiped from the history books. Matthews was a great footballer but a thug as well. 

He king his Steven Smith as well. Could not stop himself. Astonishing the career he has had when you think how Muir was treated.

Media are headhunting now. Such enthusiasm to see Kossie rubbed out by ABC, Kane Cornes....suddenly an example must be made. There is a real appetite for it. I fear for the effect this will have.

On 3/17/2023 at 1:50 PM, Cranky Franky said:

I'll be interested to see how the 3 go for the game & season. I watched Casey last year & thought Baker the better player by a mile. I thought the fact that he only got 1 senior game in 2 years showed poor judgement by our coaches.

Good luck to all 3.

Never impressed with us. That solitary goal last night was more than he showed for us at any point.

Notch above last night.

These (CW, JN, MG) are the same people who started our premiership year describing us as "guilty until proven innocent" and laffing their heads off.

Care factor for their opinions? Zero. (Less than zero of possible.)

13 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I thought he was training with the massage table. 

Wherever it is, he is not the answer.

As another of our hard at it midfielders, Jack Viney can be replaced, to a point.

As a beast of a player who tackles with intent and effect, and as a determined and inspirational leader...well, none of the alternative "hard at it mids" quite match that, so no, he is not exactly replaceable although we can and do win without him.

12 hours ago, Gouga said:

Breath taking in its arrogance. And the MCC members? What were they doing all those years?

An utter crock served up by CK and EM.

And that's without mentioning the Cain Government which oversaw the Southern Stand rebuild by offering loan guarantees. I remember John Cain fretting over what the public would think when they realised the stand would hang over Brunton Avenue. (They hardly noticed)

Wonderful photo. Brilliant guernsey unsullied by sponsor labels. HB Ron!

34 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Thanks Ethan, a number of interesting and important issues here.

However, I shall make no comment because I cannot stand Rita Panahi - a sanctimonious, headline hunting, self righteous excuse for a journalist whose carping adds little to any serious debate and whose sole raison d'être appears to be promulgating the views of her political masters.

Truly a waste of space, time and oxygen.