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It is easy o forget the dynamics between teams at things such as drafts. I'm sure at times teams jumpin early or wait longer for players due to "market value". At the end of the day teams just want to get the best players they could. If they overpay on one and underpay on another so be it. Ultimately it's still the same outcome.

As long as you're not a short , stocky , bald man

It's probably all four. Iheard the Demonland GF podcast maybe only a year ago and i think they addressed this all well. We were probably noticeably fitter (as well as better) than every other team by that September. The Bulldogs had a draining finals series, even with the bye before the GF. It got to the stage where physically and emotionally they had no answers. By the time we kicked the first one or two goals in the last quarter I'm sure most Dogs just knew they couldn't keep up physically plus knew even if they could win from here it would be more famous than ones such of Carlton over Collingwood in 1970 . On top of that they would be devastated that all of 20 mins earlier they were about to have the best moments of their life ...and now close to the worst.... given all this i can understand the capitulation.

It still has to actually turn into gameday performance. But if most of these players play well during the Home and away season suddenly we're not the rabble from the end of last year. What's amazing is this list doesn't include latrelle, nor AMW and maybe some others too. It's probably too much to expect a dozen players to play out of their skin. But certainly if mid-year we're well in the mix to make the proper eight improvement in players such as I referred to would probably explain it.

All good! I meant that he started before Jim's stretch started and finished before Jim's stretch ended.

Have there been Irish players on our list after Stynes retired in 1998?!!! (The rest of this conversation is irrelevant.)

Umm, someone said they thought we've had no Irish stars SINCE Stynes. How is someone who retired before Stynes someone "SINCE"?!!!! When I'm trying to provide facts I check them. Wikipedia had Wight playing from 1985 to 1995 and Jim Stynes playing in the seniors from 1987 to 1998. What have I said that was wrong? BTW I just double checked - AFL tables has Sean wight playing from round eight 1985 to that final game in 1995 where Sean Smith took that amazing mark up in Brisbane. Stynes debut in round three 1987 and played to the prelim final in 1998. Sorry but I've just missed your point completely here. I just know I can't say that Sean wight played since Stynes.

So Langford was the Bison and Brown was Pup and Langford is now both Pup and bison?! Umm...

Sean Wight started and finished his career about two years BEFORE Stynes' stretch. What a wonderful, dashing player! With that moustache he looked like a swashbuckler. I still remember him jumping over Brereton not for a speccy, but a '110%' defensive spoil! Oh, and there could still be some 'gold' up in the ranks of adolescent Irish footballers. I'd say most good coaches are always after a new advantage/ head start from the competition.

Sorry, who's Pup? I thought that was Brown, who was delisted.

Ahhh, so in summary ... No Roos. Faux p**s. Bad snakes, Sad fakes.

Doesn't Salo's family own a Lebanese restaurant? When I read Leb yesterday I assumed Salem. Pardon your French but sorry for your mal de mer and sunburn. I guess you really were red and blue.

Yes but if you did these comparisons at the end of 2020 you wouldn't have Melbourne coming anywhere near close to winning the flag or Richmond the back-to-back premiers missing the eight altogether(in 2021). Will Brisbane even end up being in the top four this year? I mean probably yes but who knows how much Neale's extra curricular activity affects the team. Anyway there's team morale , team tactics , team cohesion plus with 40 something players on each side some will improve some will go backwards and some will be injured. You're not completely wrong but there are surprises every year and that's because there are so many intangible factors or at least stuff we just don't know at all about.

Umm, most years you could do this depressing exercise and end up with nearly every defending Premier winning the next flag too. Predicting us to win this years flag is way too optimistic. But I really don't like your methodology to predict ladder positions this year

Yep! So many mistakes! I bet the predictions at the moment will be the same kind of wrong come the seasons end. I love the people trying to predict the whole bloody ladder. There are (18 x 17 x 16 x 15 .... ) possible permutations which is more than 6,000,000,000,000,000!!! Also often there's so much recency bias