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6 hours ago, Neitas bump said:

The Hawks are awful this year and they will be coming back from a big interstate flogging.

We need to consider the bigger picture anyone that is not 100% fit should be rested (not to casey). The medical and performance team will know who those people are. A freshen up now will help us against some very strong opposition coming such as Port in Adelaide and the filth on kings day.

Casey not playing anyway...bye.

34 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

I suspect White may have had some 2nd game soreness/blues guys after a long layoff and clean out of that knee.

Maybe a bit of strength and match fitness / conditioning lacking.

Remembering that most players who come into a season off a knee or something that's held em back from a normal full pre-season usually don't perform at their usual standards in some or more games on their return.

We are witnessing a little of this imv with May at the moment.  Fingers crossed he's on the up and up though.

White might need to be managed (off the bench for alot less game time?) at some point depending on how he pulls up today.

Might be best not to judge him too harshly today given the above.

I think that is exactly right...Casey have a bye next week

2 hours ago, Winners at last said:

He seemed to get a few 'Joe the Goose' type goals.

Have you seen any GC matches this year? His efforts have been deplorable, particularly for a guy so big and athletic.

Please explain.

What is a "joe the goose goal?"

Very strong team...with Munro still to come in. Very hard for the Casey demons boys to get a run...must be a very resilient group.

With the game kicking off at the same time as the coronation...will there be the opportunity to recite the oath of allegiance ?

Or save it for king's birthday weekend.?

Squeeze it in after welcome to country?

Asking for a friend.

9 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

The trouble is, they have been known to suddenly cash in all their unused performance in a single game, like an elastic band snapping back. Suddenly they've got five contested marks and seven shots on goal etc etc.

Discount brand of Jake Stringer's career.

7 shots on goal from casboult can mean 1 goal, 3 behinds, 3 out on full...on a good day.

Personal opinion: Spargo may be stranded in Casey team for some time.

"Tassie tigers"

Tell Richmond to get lost...no tigers between punt Rd and the Yarra.

Not all young Tasmanian men would want to stay in tassie to play.

Some talent, not Sicily, may prefer to live in Tassie. You only need 5-6 %.

If I was choosing a new club jumper, I would be consulting an optometrist or similar to identify which colour or colours is most easily spotted by team mates in the heat of a game.

Read the "business plan". It isn't a business plan. Like most business plans to do with government money, it is a collection of fuzzy goals devoid of hard numbers. Throw in a compulsory genuflection to diversity, inclusion, jobs, community and the environment. Dan has the template. Any of the big consultancies will tick for a fee.

23 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I don't know if he'll be a good appointment or not, but I have met him at a conference about 10 years ago. He's affable, articulate, smart and humorous. Hopefully all of those traits will be on show. And for those that like trivia, I also found out at that event that he did his articles under the late John "Darcy" Duigan who subsequently became Victoria's Chief Magistrate.

Can that be right re articles.

Years do not seem to match. I would have thought Darcy was sitting at the old magistrates Court well before Dillon finished law school.

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

They get guaranteed money regardless of their on-field performance? It's an equalisation system?

Would you prefer all the young guns to go to few teams and leave the rest with "scraps"?

Let's not pretend that all high draft picks become star players.

You miss the point...it may suit the industry..but these draftees are deprived of what every other employee in Australia has, to suit others. You could just as easily adjust the rights of senior players...won't happen.

This always troubles me...it seems all of us can sell our services to the highest bidder...except AFL draftees..who are not only told where they must play, but what their pay is...even if they could get more at a preferred destination in an open market. It may suit the AFL and clubs, but why do these young men have those restrictions. The facts that it isn't compulsory to play and they do relatively well isn't the point.

1 hour ago, The Great Pretender said:

James Harmes was the sub last night but only came on in the last quarter and had 16% time on ground. Given the minimal time on the ground, is he eligible to play today?

I believe eligible.

I have tried to find the AFL rules as they apply to the operation of the VFL including finals eligibility etc....pretty much failed to get a current set.

3 hours ago, wizardinoz said:

Where would George Grey be playing when dropped from Casey? I really rate this guy.

I believe George Grey and White are both linked to Cranbourne. And Munro? There was an article saying he played a couple of games there last year and kicked 5 in one. Named in best last week so if available I would think he will be in this week...despite team sheet which is often off. 

White is close to being back.

I think the city with the next biggest Aussie population is actually London.

Plenty of ovals including the oval.

Expats have time and money.

Carlton norf replay.

5 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Demonland gives us all much pleasure and information, I can’t see why everyone doesn’t take up Life Membership.

Fair question.

How do you subscribe. I am happy to but don't know how.

1 hour ago, Demon Dynasty said:

After watching Q1

Q1 - First 10 minutes

Started well aside from Dunstan missing one relatively easy HB receive from Harmes in the middle.

Brown playing high and presenting on both wings with an involvement early on the member's wing resulting in our first shot at goal.

Dunstan's quick hands to Harmes off HFF was nice but then you had none of the three talls at the time in Jefferson, BB and Macca leading.  They were all playing deep from behind and Harmes's bomb didnt help....straight to a Tiger's D playing in front with none of the other three talls even making the contest.

One of them couldve made a lead at the ball carrier but they all sat back.  Mind you, Harmes didnt seem to assess too well either.  A kick to the fat side might have hit Macca on the chest (if he had the legs?). Sometimes the kicker just needs to just put it out into space with a nicely weighted kick (if he spots a forward...easier said than done of course).

Bell rucking well early.  Relieving mark deep in defence at one stage.  Also a lovely 45 kick into the middle hitting up a mid who then transitioned into 50 for a goal to Edwards.

Tomlinson, Disco, Deakin all fine down back so far for mine.  Disco in particular was rock solid all quarter.

10 minutes onward (approx)...

For mine the momentum began turning as soon a KFW came on for Bell.  Not having a go at him either.  Super raw and not expecting much at such an early stage but there it is.

A few examples.  First hit out straight to Tiger's def sweeper when all our mids were lateral or defensive.

Tap on the wing from a ball to the outside but towards the Tiger end which favoured them and saw a Tiger run onto it and send it deep into their 50.

Caught throwing for Tiger's second direct shot on goal from 45 out which they missed.

Ok this can happen, even with more experienced followers, but the above three examples were all within about 3 minutes of him coming on.

Other things worth mentioning..

Free in the middle against Macca at 12:30 wasnt a free.  Clearly play on.

Another very soft free for a (supposed) push against Brown on member's wing.

Mark paid to Tigers 58 (Olden?) at 15:00 very generous for their first goal.  Took two bites then dropped it.

Watching the ball up in middle at 16:05 Bell rucking.  Both Harmes & Dunstan are too easily pushed away from the drop.  Neither got near it and three Tigers are left to their own devices to waltz out of the middle for a quick entry deep into 50.  Saved by Adams.

I doubt this would happen all that often with Moose around.

The back half of this quarter (post about 15:00) ...

No one did all that much wrong from what i witnessed from here.

Harmes in everthing with great strength/hands, run from contest to contest & distribution (by hand).

For me it's his disposal by foot that's a worry at times and at times you need to hit targets to ease pressure and / or to find a target a bit more often i50 in order to make the most of all the hard work done up the field.  Hitting targets by foot a bit more will also mean less turnovers when you can least afford it.  With so many running forward in support, if you arent perfect with your give n goes by hand, you're gonna be punished the other way as the oppo sling shot it out of your F50.

For mine....one too many talls surely? Why would you have all of Jefferson, Valentine, Macca & BB in any forward set up?

Recipe for making life difficult (up forward and for the mids vs the slingshots) if you ask me.

A number of times the ball came in long , hit the deck and voomp.... the Tiger smalls just mopped and exited easily.  Casey smalls front n sqaure?  Chandler no longer about as well.  Not sure what Moniz's role is either.  He just isnt about much (up forward) or applying enough pressure.

Valentine also trying to thread a needle at 24:00 as if he's Spargy pants.  If he just took a tad more time & glanced inside, he mightve seen Edwards running into 50 about 10 - 20 meters closer & straight in front.

Also the exit from 50 after Macca's snap was far too easy.  Again, possibly too many tall forwards?

To me the Tigers looked well beaten in this 1st quarter but the imbalance up forward with too many talls, a few easy misses on goal (BBB, Jefferson), a bit of dodgy delivery inside and no mopping up (Dunstan running into goal not taking a shot and instead kicking it straight to a few Tigers ughh)  / pressure inside 50 saw us not converting the opportunities and allowing them to transistion the length of the field on a couple of occasions.

Aside from that the Tigers were clean out in the open, transitioned ok out of 50 but brittle as under any meaningful  pressure.

Other quarter reports to follow please

Next 2 weeks are Casey versus hawthorn and gold coast, who sit 2nd and 3rd on ladder. Looking forward to both games and 2 wins, despite yesterday's aberration.

2 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Must admit not really have paid attention to Laurie, what position would you play him?

Terrible commentator. I think her elocution teacher may have been Kellie Underwood. Grey has played almost every game for 3 seasons...one of the better players today, but called seston the whole game. Similarity nil.

4 minutes ago, rjay said:

Early days but I'm not seeing much to enthuse from Jefferson.

Just doesn't really get involved.

 

No physical presence at all. Needs to really build up. Couldn't pull the skin off a custard at the moment.

On 4/17/2023 at 3:37 PM, hemingway said:

Frankly the media is ruining the enjoyment of footy. 24/7 commentary, shock jocks like Cornes and others constructing headlines, criticism of players and teams at the drop of a hat, gross exaggeration (the point of fabrication) and often uninformed commentary. Mainly it’s about egos and justification of their pay cheques. It’s the bilge that gets said and written about every day, all week, and before and after a game. It has reached saturation point. Either folks accept it, absorb it like sponges, or reject it, turn off and try and enjoy the purity of the game. The game needs to retain some freshness, some surprises, where fans expectation and opinions are not unduly influenced by the constant clammer of the media bandwagon. It’s just getting so tiresome. 

Well said. And Cornes is a [censored].

If Verrall is out for the year...and I don't see why you would hurry him back for the last few games, does anyone know how that impacts Melbourne's capacity re mid season draft ? 

Yes. Sestan played.

12 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Just like to take this opportunity to let the armchair experts who canned Baker during Demonland debates know they were wrong.

About a quarter of posters felt he should be given more games but the majority whined about his disposal among other things.

Picked in the first 5 games & playing ok demonstrates he should have been given a go in 2022 (along with several others). 

 

In lieu of?