Mental Demons

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

May - 27 years old, 127 games, club captain, under 18 All-Australian.

Frost - 25 years old, 83 games.

Reckon May is close to the perfect person to be telling other defenders what to do actually. Who would you rather instructing him? Petty?

 

What a stupid response. You seem impressed by May getting stuck into a team mate, this attitude did not win games for the Suns.  Although Petty has played  as many MFC games as May, like May he has not established himself as a consistent player. Neither should be losing their temper at a more established player. Suns were pleased to get rid of May because he is not good leadership material. May's attitude sucks and he should let his footy do the talking. May seems lazy and keen to blame others for his deficiencies and has already been unprofessional by turning up unfit to play. 

Frost has earned his place and has been much more reliable this year than May. May is yet to prove his value and has not been around long enough to be telling others what they should do. May did not have the professionalism to turn up fit and ready to play. I don't think May will have much of a career and it will be shorter if he continues to enforce himself at the top of a pecking order by belittling teammates.

3 hours ago, rjay said:

It's not about it being a problem it's about finding the right replacement for him.

I'm so blessed to know that you don't think our injury list is a fitness issue. Chasing big names for the sake of appearances is why the club has gone backwards since all the AFL appointments have left. It took no time to get back to pre-Roos levels of management. We need to find people who are good at what they do. I have no confidence that our Board makes good staffing decisions at any level of the club. 

The fitness thing is less of a problem than poor trading and recruiting or bad game day coaching. When are these going to be addressed?

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

I was going to reply to his above post but couldn't be bothered he obviously can't remember what he posts so I didn't want to embarrass the poor soul.

I am not embarrassed by the poor judgment of others. The fact is our recruiting has been a failure and no amount of nitpicking will change that. Do you have a point to make? 

4 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

When reality bites you have to accept it.You were caught out.

Not at all. If you believe we are in better shape than we were with Hogan, then you are the one deluded. This was not a got you moment. Where the marks were taken and the results from them are relevant. Hogan has been way more productive. 

16 minutes ago, ManDee said:

so we are better off. Plus we have May KK and Swallow for free!

If we are better off then why are we having such a bad year? These three have not really proved they are worth anything yet. We have just about swapped spots on the ladder with Freeo from last year. We do not have any consistent key forwards. Hunt is doing better than last year but results suggest we are not better off.

58 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

May is old and slowing in the same way that Gawn is old and slowing.

May was not in good enough shape to make the team, he has played one full game and was ordinary and unaccountable, like his fitness. I do not think there is a forward in the league that would hold any fears about being matched up on May, most would love it as much as the pies forwards did.

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

For full clarity though, let's remember the full trade scenario ended up being:

OUT: Hogan, Pick 65 (which they didn't use)

IN: May, Kolodjashnij, Sparrow

 

Hogans numbers are still better than these three put together. Sparrow may have a future but The Suns boys have been unproductive and struggled to get on the park. KK seems soft and injury prone, May is just plain over rated.

1 hour ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

This sentence, in this post. Is that irony, hypocrisy or both?

neither - May is old and slowing and we have many with the same skills set. May has a limited future and Hogan will be productive long after May is finished. May will get the chance to prove himself but so far I am not convinced we got the best of this trade, we pushed Hogan out the door.

10 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I reckon you have been caught out.

not really - check out marks in our forward line that end in goals.

14 hours ago, bing181 said:

Hogan has 72. Melksham alone has 48. Then Tom Mac 43, Hunt 40 etc. etc.

 

Melksham alone has not taken 48 marks this year. TMac has not taken 43 marks  and Hunt has not taken 40 marks this year. Do a google search

13 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Are you wanting JWags to lead the group? Hore?

At least they are fit enough to get out on the field.

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

If May plays on Hogan, I expect the result of that single contest will be simplistically viewed by some as a proxy as to whether we "won" or lost on those two trades. 

It is clear we lost on the trade irrespective of the match up. Hogan has taken more marks this year than our whole forward line. We gave up a high draft pick and May has only really played one game is yet to have a good game where he beats or even slows down an opponent.

On 6/14/2019 at 10:05 AM, buck_nekkid said:

I watched May fairly closely, and thought he had a really good game.  He added leadership to the back half, did a lot of little things, used his body well, positioned himself well and attacked the contests.  For a first game (I’m discounting the quarter he played earlier in the year), he gets a big tick from me.

What right has May got to pretend to be a leader - he has not proved anything at this club yet. He is a mouthy blowhard who needs to focus on his own game if he is going to make it. He was not signed to tell others who have earned and played more games this year, what to do. May was not even a road bump slowing the pies path to the goals. Don't believe all the hyperbole about May. He is an ordinary footballer who will struggle to be best 22 next year. He does not read play well and is unable to lock down an opponent.

I think talking to media is one of Goodwin's best qualities. I wish he was as good at game day coaching and developing a list. He is bottom of the barrel in those categories.

Did anybody else notice that Collingwood seemed to look for whoever May was matching up on. The scored about 5-6 goals with this ploy because whoever he was on was confident of beating him. He is not a one on one defender. Our backline is full of intercept marking defenders. With all of Leaver, May, Hore, Frost, Hibberd  have the same skill set with a few minor differences. Hibberd has lost a yard or two. May is unfit and is crap at reading the play though he is a good kick to position, unfortunately that is not his job. Our backline was to big against the pies. Spargo did not do enough and is young and will get his chance. Both Lockhart and C.Wagner played better than him for Casey. ANB and KK were not too bad either. We missed T. Smith up forward because Tmac is not a target anymore.

17 hours ago, John Demonic said:

he hasn't had enough quality around him to be that icing on the cake player. I think he will get better as the team gets stronger personally. I guess we have differing opinions on his value last year.

We should not be recruiting players to be icing we should be developing players to get the job done. His speed and skills are limited but they might develop. This year there are many who have more runs on the board and a few newcomers that have shown more in that same role. I believe he needs to sharpen his versatility and skills at Casey, not in the firsts. The success of last year is not a justification because we fell short. I do not think he has improved and that is his problem. He may improve but we do not need players who are only good if they are carried by the quality around them. Playing him is either a tanking plan or an increase his trade value plan. ANB, J. Wagner, Lockhart and JKH all have better claims to his position and all can win their own ball which Spargo is not good at.

1 minute ago, maximum bob said:

Trust you recover soon, take the meds, (and can actually post again with some degree of attention to how a proper sentence is written and punctuated btw). 

Whoever wrote this should not be lecturing anyone on punctuation. 

3 minutes ago, Chook said:

I advise you watch the 3rd quarter of the Semi final, Hawthorn vs Melbourne, 2018 stat.

What is your point rather than getting others to research something. What are we meant to look for? I watched the game why do you think it is relevant now?

4 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

We haven't seen his ceiling.

We have seen enough of his floor and more is not a help now. The team needs to get use to being competitive rather than giving a guy games in hope for the future. He has not been good all year and most of last year. The only reason to play Spargo now is to increase his trade value, which means we are tanking.

19 minutes ago, Sargent Shultz said:

Im in the “confusion room” when it comes to Spargo remaining in after last weeks game? Can’t kick, can’t tackle, can’t mark, can’t score, cant get his hands on the footy.

I agree although it was one of Spargo's better games, Lockhard has been better and more productive all year and all of the emergencies left out have been better than him as well as C Wagner and Sparrow. Someone seems to want to give Spargo a career he has not earned.

I thought Spargo had one of his better games as a demon last Saturday. Despite his mistakes, he tackled, ran hard and made options and connections. The reality is that Lockhart offers more and has been better this year and should have Spargo's place. I have no problem giving Spargo time at Casey, I think gifting him games he hadn't earnt last year has not helped his development. We need players competing for a position to be a competitive team. 

7 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Walker's underperformance didn't have much to do with Frost, who for all his athleticism etc. is the worst one-on-one defender we have.

Frost is better than OMAC and has been one of our more reliable backman this year and has won OMAC's job. I agree it is not his natural position, being a lockdown defender but he has shown that he can do it this year. 

Don't really understand the logic of not playing the guys on the big bucks that the team made sacrifices to get. If we want to win games we must play our best teams. We should not pay anyone to sit out. Our best games this year have been when we had our quickest teams in. This should be an ongoing plan. If Lever, May, Hore, and Salem are fit they should play.  Omac, Spargo, JKH, with Stretch or Wagner being unlucky. Not a fan of Spargo but he had a good game as did JKH, we have guys coming in who we can expect more from. There may be a need to play Salem up the ground more and Fritch forward. It is getting harder to find places for people with Melksham and Vanders best 22 as well.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Spargo to be BOG tonight - 28 touches, 8 tackles, 3 goals

IThat would more than double his stats this year.

1 minute ago, olisik said:

 What’s the point of the draft if the player just continues playing in the same league as he was previously? 

As I understand it the Midseason draft needs a lot of refinement. Teams have to be careful who they draft because of caps,  contracts and relocation fees make it an unattractive prospect. It may be why so many clubs passed.

1 minute ago, binman said:

Huh? Both are in the seniors.

sorry, was listening to an old game.