leave it to deever

I'd say that if Tracca moves on that he's actually lost some value as well. That injury has had severe impact on mind and body and going fwd he's an unknown quantity somewhat. Oliver has definitely dropped. So has Petty. That's three of the comps biggest names.

Thanks for that I needed a laugh. That's the furniture that when I was a little one my Italian mates parents had and the left the plastic wrapping on it forever. Probably quite comfortable without the plastic. Northa Melbourne and a Fooootascray.

I reckon a lot of these stories are just articles to advertise products like kayo and other things.

Thanks SoNS In finding 14 to 15 (Gus and Nibbler don't count) then it helps explain why are season was so bad at times. I hope if we go poaching for some top up experience we do much better. I miss not playing finals. Big time

Are the One more year??? Players contracted? If possible I'd recommend keeping only Spargo , Woey and maybe Hore. The rest of , we should delist. I mean we haven't played Fullerton all year....why keep him. Laurie never seems to excel. Billings all over the place. McAdam the same. Well maybe Billings gersa second chance but that's it. Agree with giving Tmac another year especially if Tommo is moving on and Milk due to fwd line issues. So that would be around 15 gone.....in 15 seconds . I don't like the term list cloggers and a couple in that 15 are fantastic players. But 2024 did see us with a lot of players we simply never played or ones that simply didn't perform on a regular basis. 15 is a fair amount for sure.

Are all these rumour pieces about the Mfc , on News.com.su simply a ploy to advertise kayo. Every single article from them has an big add for Kayo.

Having the all of around five gamer Laurie as the sub when Gus went down wasn't exactly a great move. The bloke had zero experience but chosen for a final. Still boggles the mind. Not sure what Goody was thinking then.

I wonder if we tried.

Two percent for blues.....nuffies.

Do we really think Tracca will go? A mate of mine suggested that was why he was so forgiving of pies players in his last game when injured. I haven't spoken to my mate since. I reckon Tracca will stay. Certainly he would go to the dark side .

Living rent free. Pies are simply not that good a team. They have flogged us twice at the G this year. It's a mindset. Mind you they do tend to end players careers, so there's that. I wish we would respond.

As Bt would say.... Gee wizz What a cat amongst the pigeons is the Dockers losing Given their high percentage, they would have catapulted above gws into third or fourth. Such a huge loss that sees them miss out on finals. Probably one of the better teams. Now gws face off against Swan's. Despite this season's results Gws usually have the measure of Sydney. Should be interesting. As for Port winning in Perth....a case of form v lack of with port winning four on a row and docker's the opposite. Port are seriously overated in second spot as well having had six games this season decided by a goal or less. And Port won all six of those. Wow. Blues are the luckiest club in the comp and go into finals very underdone. Unless Curnow plays they are done and dusted. Here's hoping. Sydney have a severe case of the wobbles at the wrong time . Port despite being as described are choc full of form and confidence. I guess Swans are still faves but gws and despite being fifth....the lions are the threat.

Great post and good to see someone sticking up for Tmac. Despite having a couple of horrors towards the end of the year while playing on some elite talented opposition he has been very good. Has reinvented himself again going back to his original charge and has done exceptionally well. So much so, he deserves another year. Thanks guys for some great pcasts and dealing with my venting and negativity. Enjoy the cricket.

He is a gun when on . But he's a player that thrives on space and one on one competitions Coaches just jam our fwd line up and our mids haven't exactly given fast delivery. But I agree about his lack of pressure. Really needs to lift helping lock the ball up. A month ago when we were still a statistical chance, his lack of chasing was very evident and didn't look good at all.

I used to think he was close to becoming another Petracca, and but he hasn't really evolved. He's as solid and probably close to as strong as CP but I don't think he reads the play as well. He tackles hard and notches up a lot of them but yea I'm sure your opinion of him is not unique. Can't imagine we would get a great deal for him but he does have a lot of experience under his belt now, so you never know. Unfortunately we don't have a great deal of midfield depth so it might be wiser to hang onto him for emergencies. But it's not the strongest of arguments to keep him on.

Fair call. I'd probably give Milk another lap.

If so it's disappointing. Maybe wise from an injury perspective. I keep thinking poor Milkshake in the last h and a round last year. But from a payback perspective not so much. Just saying. #windowwideopen4deesflag25.

Good observation upon his form. Really dried up midway though the season. He is a skilled player that thrives in space. One on one it a fwd line with lots of spare real estate he thrives and makes defenders very nervous And so quick to get ball upon boot. I think towards the middle of the season our midfield slowed down and our entry fwd was slow, clumsy and methodical and therefore resulted in Fritta not being able to utilize his talents. That said his last six to seven games have been well off. There were clear occasions where he was injured or of not, then evident that he could not be bothered chasing and or tackling opposition players in the slightest. And at that point, statistically speaking, we could still play finals Jvr and Kozzie despite spending more time in the middle scored the same number of goals for 24 as for 23. Fritta went backwards. But maybe our fwd inside 50 s were down because I know our midfield was or maybe it's as you infer...due to other issues. He's a rare talent and I hope a good pre season sees him back to his lethal left foot best in 25.

Pardon the obscure title, but it's the best way to sum this year up. Our last game revealed yet again our forward line problems and other issues and why it was in fact our last game. I can still remember the joy from winning both games in S.A and the incredible accuracy on goal against port at their home ground. We came back four from five and didn't we celebrate. Despite two years of final loss straight sets, we were back. Then it's hard to say what really happened. Maybe we believed our own hype plus the media declaration that the lions were finished. We certainly turned up like they were. Since that game we have been all over the place. But mostly in the wrong spot and not only losing games but being demolished at times. We have ironically been.... consistently inconsistent. Our fwd line again was the big problem. It seemed incapable of kicking anything near 100 points well too often. ( This was achieved all of four times).l The finger pointing at Petty and Goody has not been wrong. Week after week and month after month Petty was backed despite returning one goal every fortnight But something else happened to our fwd line. At around the midway point of the season,Jvr and Fritta were off the boil. Jvr averaged the same amount of goals this year as per last but most of them were kicked in the front end and at any rate he didn't improve goal tally this season. Kozzie was the same. He averaged the same number of sausage rolls in 24 as 23. And again like Jvr fell off mid season bar a cameo against the lions . Fritta as mentioned was well down in goal power this year compared to his previous seasons. Turner apart from last night gets an honorary mention but it's hard to know where he fits in. Chandler too. For me he doesn't hit the scoreboard enough. So once again our fwd line has been a debacle. I guess Kozzie gets excused somewhat for having to spend more time in the middle. Maybe Jvr a little having to spend his time often rucking in the middle So a struggling fwd line that lacked depth struggled even more because our ruck stocks lacked depth. Which brings us to the midfield letting us down this year. Despite finishing in a flurry , Jack Viney was well and truly down on his wonderful form of 2023. A long way. Oliver has been fantastic and.......well.....um.. horrible. But he was last year when we made it to a prelim. And now apparently injured Tracca injured obviously a huge loss and our best mid until he went down. But there is the problem. Our midfield depth includes players like Sparrow and Billings . Hmmmm. Well not even depth. They olare our regular players. In 21 it seemed really hard for players to break into a solid, successful and tight knit outfit. 2024 seemed the exact opposite. We seemed to be scraping blokes together to field a team. Blokes that too often didn't perform but then didn't get dropped. I'm not saying that players didn't perform their best because they were not relegated to the twos but many players didn't have to look over their collective shoulders most of the season. This is not a thread to provide an analysis of want went wrong. That would take pages. As well as qualifications others on this site have in spades over me. It's a opportunity to vent and raise concerns. I've vented. Thanks. It helps. But my concerns are...well.... concerning . Anb has moved on. A massive lost. Gawn and May are showing their age.... injury wise. We don't have a second ruck or emergency for that matter. We are not entirely sure how long Tracca will remain a demon. Will premier cup and champagne players like Lever and Salo return close to their heights? The upside...there are a great deal of positives with some great young talent constantly proving their worth. But for me there is mostly a lot of doubt heading into 2025. It's been our worst season in the last four. We talk about premiership windows. Well if they are real then it would be a fair call to say ours closed this year. Or is it the case of it just being dropped temporarily until all the stars align again and we win another flag. That would require a great deal of luck but we would have to make a great deal of it ourselves through some savvy recruiting. No more club hand me downs if you will. I don't want to make this thread about should Goody ...he has the credits in the bank but if he pulled a Biden, I'm not entirely against such a move . It could help for us creating a fresh start. Probably wise to handball at this point. What can we do that won't see us stuck in the bottom eight for the next four years? Can we prise open the window enough to win the ultimate prize in the next two years or is that unrealistic? I mean even despite finishing where we did if we had won our four close games the reality is, we would have finished top four. I imagine the seasons are going to become even closer each year. Especially with the introduction of another team. So now is the time to be super aggressive. We need to go after every player we can afford to and be ruthless in our pruning. If there is any window left, then let's throw caution to the wind and go for it

Surely this season can be somewhat salvaged by Freo leapfrogging over Carlton.

Nothing to see here. And where does Maynard get off preaching to others.

My dream fwd line of a few decades ago would be possibly a combo of A. Jacko G.Lion Neita Robbo Farmer Schwartz

Not saying it doesn't warrant five weeks. But certainly stating how unjust it was that Maynard got zilch. Seriously wth? AFL is a poor joke at times.

Most going through at post height too.

JL is a classy bloke and loyal member of the Mfc for sure.