dee-luded
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I reckon Australian cricket suffered a near death experience overnight. Our batting line up is like Melbourne's midfield - third world. We wasted the last couple of summers and failed to bring in a proper succession plan to replace the likes of Ponting and Hussey. Send Warner home, call up Doolan and (I'm doing a Caro here) sack Inverarity.
IMO Jack, the direction is now forward, off the field. but what we're witnessing is the results of the last few years of Off field efforts & poor judgement from the administrators.. be careful who you wish for.
the previous Australian cricket culture,,, of many greats included, Warne, Mcgrath, Taylor, Gilchrist etc, didn't need a culture shift...
but I think the ACB administrators decided a shake up was in order, at a time of a changing world...
they got it wrong for a group where a combative nature is required... IMO this is where the similarity to the MFC is... they were in danger of becoming what we've been for 45 years.
.... fancy having a south african, plus a suit & tie, telling us how we should be culturally, out on the cricket battlefield.... to me This, is where the conflicts began. & with the changing of the leadership guard, leaving behind a vacuum of onfield generals that leaves the teams nature up for grabs.
... create the wrong nature/environs & the newcomers won't know where they fit in, & the results can be a mess.
I think the winning old guard have returned to rebalance the good ship Australia... I trust the works now being done. although I don't think they have the batting lineup right, IMO.
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I don't think Khawaja is ready yet, for the top order, & certainly Not hughes. to me both middle order. Hughes should never bat ahead of Clarke except as a run-dash.
I'd bat Smith ahead of both of them atmo, in the lineup. I just think smith is more composed at the minute for a 3 or 4 berth. I wonder if one day, Smith & Agar could both bat before No5 ?
this would steady our middle order imo. & we could slowly rejig our top order.
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pattinson looks a much better bowler when he is let loose
it seems the problem is hes trying to bowl to much line and length that's interfering with his natural ability to bowl wicket balls
I remember Lillee saying years ago to young bowlers coming into the test team... just bowl fast, hard & fast... & improve from there. I think a bit of menace wouldn't go astray. along with guile.
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Stumps Day 1 in both matches
England 7/289
I. Bell 109
J. Bairstow 67
J. Trott 58
S. Smith 3/18 (6)
R. Harris 3/43 (20)
S. Watson 1/41 (12)
& in the other match
Australia A 226
M. Henriques 71
G. Maxwell 61
A. Doolan 35
K. Jarvis 4/54 (16)
E. Chigumbura 3/42 (11)
T. Chatara 2/49 (13.5)
Zimbabwe 5/82
M. Waller 19*
T. Maruma 16
V. Sibanda 15
P. Cummins 2/6 (6)
J. Hazlewood 2/20 (9)
F. Ahmed 1/17 (3.3)
As I mentioned earleir, it turns out that Siddle no ball when he bowled Bairtow has hurt a bit as he ended up making about another 40 odd runs, however on this wicket if you had of offered us 7/289 at stumps I reckon we'd of taken that as it looks a great batting wicket. Hopefully we can knock them over in the first hour for about 320, bat out the day and most of Day 3, make about 450 with a lead of 130odd and then really put the heat on England late Day 3 and heading into Day 4 as the pitch starts to become more difficult.
And good to see the Aussie A team in a reasonable position despite their soso batting performance. Very good to see both Cummins and Fawad Ahmed amongst the wickets especially!
lets hope the wicket plays its best on day 2 & 3... & late on day 3, we get some of them out with the new ball... Pattinson is due.
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Not that my thoughts on the matter are of any interest to anybody but myself, but god I hate those Pommy scum. The spirit of Jardine lives on. I'll never forget that 2005 series when they brought in the best fielders from the counties as substitutes, and then kept 'substituting' their bowlers whenever they got a bit puffed. Not to mention that most of them are bloody South Africans.
Only thing I've got out of this Test has been a reassurance that the difference between the teams is not that great, and that the 10 -0 drubbing I'd feared isn't likely to happen. From what I saw in this game, I reckon we'll knock em over when they get out here. Just hope we doctor the pitches the way they do theirs. (ps sorry Deeluded we seem to have crossed in mid air. Same idea as you. Trouble is, of course, that if everybody does that, kind of ruins the game. Only the really great teams will be able to win away from their home turf. Oh well...hard to resist when everybody else does it)
thats the point, but we are not the games rulers, so we have to do as the others do unto us,, until the powers step in to fix it... like the AFL & the youth policy of List management.
... we must do it & make hard fast pitches & stop worrying about games going 5 days.. It should Not be about TV & sponsor blood'y money... or the bloody TV rights.
it should Just be about 'the game', 'the contest' & 'the fan'... forget about the F*%@k!n sponsors.
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Is it true that the hotspot missed Jonathon Trott's edge onto his pad in the second innings because they were showing a replay of an earlier hotspot?
I hope we prepare some really quick wickets, hard & bouncy for our next home test series. 1970's style wickets for the pace bowlers. pin them back on the stumps.
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What's also of interest is what the make up of Englands team will be for the 2nd test?
Two things are very clear about their XI after that first test. Well three if you include that Broad's a [censored]!
1. Steven Finn gives them nothing, and if you look at the amount of overs he bowled compared to the other bowlers, it's aparant that Cook has no confidence in him.
2. They rely on Anderson with the ball about as much as we do Clarke with the bat and he needs more support.
So apart from the what you'd think would be obvious change of Finn out for another bowler (both Bresnan & Onions were in their squad for the 1st Test). Will they make a 2nd change and bring ina 5th bowling option probably at the expense of Bairstow who's only averaging 30.23 after 9 tests. Those are Ed Cowan type numbers! When you consider that Tim Bresnan has a batting average of 31.28 and both Broad and Swann are handy with the bat, you could see a situation of Finn & Bairstow out with Bresnan & one of either Onions or Panesar (if they want 2 spinners) in.
Would give them an XI of:
Cook*
Root
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
+Prior
Bresnan
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Onions or Panesar
Will be interesting to see....
Now I understand why you want Bird in.... I'd forgotten that line of thinking, since I'd lost interest in test cricket.... the ability to tie down the opposing batsmen at one end.
Bird may be right...
.. even if we go with 4 x pace, the other swing bowler may be out of starc & faulkner... I'd have Siddle & Pattinson in as the first 2 bowlers picked. add bird....then ?
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Broad is not the only "cheat" to have stood his ground after obviously hitting the ball.. But a cheating pattern is emerging with that guy...he is becoming a bit of a devious sleezy cricketer.. He was also the player who decided to take off his boot and pull the innersole out , then readjust it and proceed to slowly re tie his laces 2 minutes before the belated luncheon break , in order to deliberately waste time when Australia was on an obvious roll, being only 20 runs off winning the game at that stage.. (the weak umpires did nothing to stop this unsportsmanlike act and should be condemned) The luncheon break most assuredly allowed England's no. 1 strike bowler, James Anderson to rest up during the 40 minute lunch interval as he was almost completely " spent" (and cramping) at that vital time in the game.. Result.... out comes Anderson after lunch , refreshed and ready to go again. He then proceeded to take the wicket of Haddin compliments of Hawk eye. I would suggest they dispense with human umpires in future and play matches with electronic only decision makers. All decisions could then be given by the "turd" umpire.. Doesn't matter how long it may take to confirm a no ball etc as the time wasted could not be longer than Broad's boot changing episode from yesterday....
I understand standing your ground was common in the past... but since we have this video ref & other moral changes around the world, it looked really blatant & he stood there after a solid nick & watched the keeper glove it cleanly... then just stood... bad for the game...
the video ref IMO, should be keeping tabs on all umpiring decisions 'Live', & if there is one that looks 'OFF',,, the 3rd Ump should immediately put a red light on,,, up in the scoreboard, halting proceedings, whilst he checks it out, live on the scoreboard screen... not up to either team to challenge.
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That's it.
England 1st Innings 215
J. Trott 48
P. Siddle 5/50 (14)
Australia 1st Innings 280
A. Agar 98
J. Anderson 5/85 (24)
England 2nd Innings 375
I. Bell 109
M. Starc 3/81 (32)
Australia 2nd Innings 296 (Target 311)
B. Haddin 71
J. Anderson 5/73 (31.4)
What can you say, but it had to end with DRS didn't it! Wouldn't be suprised if Australia opt out of DRS after this match.
Great effort Australia and you've shown more fight then England ever did from 1989 - 2004.
Lords starts on Thursday night nowm and if there's one change I'd make funily enough it wouldn't be any of the batsmen, but Jackson Bird must play at Lords! Bowl him from Glenn McGrath end where he bowled down that slop bowling line and length and wrecked havoc. Bird's our modern day McGrath so I'd take a horses for course approach (not rotation) and bring Bird in for one of Pattinson or Starc.
... what about Cowan for Smith (I'd love Punter back in)...
James Faulkner/Bird? 4 pacemen, + alrounders?
Warner back, into the middle order, after the 2nd test??? get a move on Hughes...
Australia
Shane Watson
Chris Rogers
Ed CowanSteven Smith???Michael Clarke ©
Philip Hughes
Steven Smith???Brad Haddin (W)
Brad Haddin (W)Ashton Agar
Peter Siddle
James PattinsonJames Faulkner
Mitchell StarcJames Pattinson
Ashton AgarMitchell Starc
??????????????
this is not just about the 2nd test, or this series, but consolidating the team for the back to back Ashes series... we have to get the team settled.
what do you think TD ?
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Could you say, conclusively, that he hit it? It's a bad way to end a great match.
thats exactly what I thought as well... & while the video ref was adjudicating, my video recorder switched channels on me... when I got back onto station, expecting a non decision, Haddin was given.
I immediately switched off & went to sleep.
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Surely Stuart Broad should be fined after this test for not playing in the spirit of the game, if that's even an option of the match referee?
First the not walking incident, then the blatant slow over approaching lunch to try and get the team off the field so they can re-group. This guy is a dead set [censored]!
... they may have registered a win in the books, but they have given themselves & their countries image a major Black Eye.
its a disgrace & totally spoilt a great contest, & we should have won it, with broads extra runs with the bat & the altering the flow of the game, via not walking & with the ball...
... we on the other hand, maybe should have pushed on a bit with the scoring, with agar & haddin at the wicket,,, putting more pressure on the poms.
I feel disgusted, & disappointed at the proceedings & with that last video ref decision, as the ball already had the hotspot on it, prior to passing the Bat, & the hotspot on the bat was so insignificant, it was to me, too Inconclusive,,,, so I expected benefit of the doubt to the batsmen.. play on your honour.
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Probably looking at it with green and gold goggles on but the wicket seems to be getting better for batting, and while there is swing there, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as it has been in other tests as back in 2005 & 2009. It is a dry wicket so I reckon Swann will be more of a danger then the other quicks.
Records are there to be broken, and although the record chase at Trent Bridge is only 284, the record chase of all time is 418, so much bigger scores have been chased down elsewhere. Get a few batsmen to stand up and anything can happen.
Yesterday early, it seemed the ball was holding up, coming thru slowly? but I guess the wicket got better, as they scored more heavily as the day went on?
lets hope we can remove them quickly, while the wicket may still be playing well.
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That was the worst decision I have ever seen by an umpire.
Broad hit the cover off that ball and how Aleem Dar gave that not out is beyond me??? Cost Agar his 3rd.
Come on Aussies, wrap these last 4 wickets up for about 40 and we're still right in this!
I just saw it on replay, that miss should cost Aleem Dar his career.
it brings the question of umpires into the spotlight, for all the wrong reasons.
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I'd be inclined to leave him where he is for the 2nd innings. Just so he doesn't feel any added pressure straight away in the same match. Plus I think it adds a bit of a psychologically blow to England knowing even at number 11 we have this bloke coming out. Hopefully in our 2nd innings we won't need any of the tail though.
Would be happy to move him up to number 8 as of the next Test though. Lets get one thing straight, this wasn't just a tail ender who got lucky (Tino Best). This guy was playing proper cricket shots, hitting it out of the middle, timing it perfectly and picked the balls he played well.
... of course thats plainly obvious... his strokemaking is a pleasure to watch, the balance & rhythm. Thats why I wonder, if he could use the protection of wickets around him, allowing time to construct an innings. also I think he played better against their so called pace attack, rather than the spin.
so going in earlier May help our run chase?
It may actually take away some pressure to rush.
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I switched the telly off at 9/117. Checked the scores at lunch, and aborted plans for going to sleep (which I really, really needed to do!) and switched it back on. So glad I did. Such an amazing innings. Phil Hughes I thought was Mike Hussey-esque - Hussey was a specialist for playing near-flawless innings while in the shadow of someone else.
Fair to say Agar won't ever bat at 11 again. All the quicks failed with the bat yesterday, but on paper they are all decent, and we'd have an embarrassment of riches having James Pattinson bat at 11.
My dad, when we were up watching a young Pat Cash arriving on the international scene back in the days, he wanted off to bed in frustration with Cashy, thinking its all too hard.
he went to bed & missed the rise & Win.
needless to say where Cashy ended up. some can see it, others, my dad couldn't...
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Out of my own curiosity I did some research into highest succesful run chases at Trent Bridge to get an indication of a good score to try and restrict England to and turns out the highest succesful run chase at Trent Bridge is 6/284 achieved by England v New Zealand in 2004.
So from our point of view, obviously the cheaper we can get them out the better, but to try and avoid needing a record chase for victory, especially with our fragile batting line up, we need to make sure we restrict England to a score under 348.
I'm still hoping we can keep them to under 250 so our chase is under 200, but as long as we can keep them to under that 348 mark I'll consider us more then in this game, and at this stage you'd have to say it's advantage Australia, but that can change within a session.
Big Day 3 to come, I'll be watching this one at the pub and enjoying a few!
... could agar go up to partner smith & haddin in the 2nd innnings?
or would you leave him where he is?
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And that's tea on Day 2.
England 1st Innings 215
J. Trott 48
J. Bairstow 37
P. Siddle 5/50 (14)
J. Pattinson 3/69 (17)
Australia 1st Innings 280
A. Agar 98
P. Hughes 81*
J. Anderson 5/85 (24)
G. Swann 2/60 (19)
England 2nd Innings 2/11
J. Root 5
A. Cook 4*
M. Starc 2/2 (3.4)
J. Pattinson 0/8 (4)
Starc going for the hatrick straight up after tea. Trott may have inside edged the last one but there was nothing on hot spot and snicko didn't react until the ball hit the pad. We saw the dismisal before that it does pick up the faintest of edges. So I reckon the right decision was made.
Amazing how this game has turned on it's head since drinks in the 1st session.
Have you heard what they nicknamed root?
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They're called the GABBA & the WACA.
Probably the two bounciest pitches in the world, there's a reason we almost never loose at either venue, no other teams can cope with the extra bounce.
LoL, very nice of the Poms to leave the back door agar.... help ourselves....hey? a batting alrounder?
now for the front door!
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Interesting article from Malcom Conn.
Probably makes sense. If we moved Watto back to openning because that's where he plays his best, maybe Clarke should stay at 5?
2nd Innings with Hughes at 4 followed by Clarke & Smith?
And he's probably righ about Cowan. I'd probably give him the first 2 tests, but if he fails Khawaja should probably come into calculations at number 3. Other options from outside the squad are probably Doolan, Burns and Ferguson.
I think thats what they're doing, but I'd hoped before the test for the about face. With Watson + Cowan & Rogers at 3... but I think they want to get Rogers up 7 going in the No2 spot, with Cowan hanging on as backup opener @ 3 in case something goes astray.
Khawaja hanging about, but I wouldn't make the change until watson & rogers look strong together. I'd like to see Khawaja in the middle atmo, to get a feel for it... prior to promotion.. he needs to get some test runs into his head first...
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Siddle again! Gets Bell and that's 4 of our 5 wickets. To think this guy nearly didn't play in this test...
Edit: Make that 5 of our 6 and that's Prior gone!
England 6 down for less then 200 before tea, lets roll them for under 250 Aussies. Siddle for 8!
he's the bowling cornerstone that we have... he has to play all tests. 1st picked.
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Jimmy Toumpas
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.... and that shows his (toumpas) desire is there, even if his hardness needs growing. bennell, morton, & even davey, never liked actually tackling... even green to a point, as well. davey liked chasing & harassing, but not actually bringing them down. green just wasn't good at it, & many weren't from that Era. this Era is where bruise free started.