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5 minutes ago, deanox said:

6 Clarry

5 Petracca

4 Viney

3 Lever (15 intercept possessions)

2 Viney

1 Fritsch

 

 

Viney was good wasn't he.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

What about the 7 day quarantine period as last time we played over there. I thought the bye may be after the semis to get four teams in Perth and quarantined in time to play the prelims. Or if travelling from either SA or Brisbane to Perth its more relaxed.

I think it depends on who wins etc. If Port lose then win their semi they will have to come to Perth for their prelim, same with Brizzy

13 hours ago, 58er said:

Can't drop  a four game in a row good player on a ridiculous hunch !!! 
Hunt is not ready yet and we don't need to risk him as if we win he has 2 full weeks or at least one to get fit.
 

Very emotional 58er.

I'm very happy with Bowey and if we go with him then no worries, he deserves his chance and the match committee are backing him in. But Lions are the best scoring team in the comp. If we get pushed back and are forced to defend more I'm not sure Bowey is as good one on one as Hibberd. Close out marked him on the weekend. Hawkins gave him a gentle push and sent him flying. He is a first year player having played 4 games and shows a great deal of promise but this is a final and the Lions are a ruthless team. How do you think he'll go if they send Robinson to him on Saturday? As an addition and an alternative to Salem in clearing the ball from the backline he looks terrific. If we get the game on our terms he should play well, if we don't I'm not sure he adds much. So it wasn't a ridiculous hunch thanks.

And why I was asking the question about Hunt is I wasn't sure where he was in his rehab. He may have been close last week and they gave him an extra week. I didn't know.  

9 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Lever are certainties to make the 22. May probably 50/50 - Aliir and Andrews have been outstanding all year as well, and one of those 3 will miss out. Weitering has also been great in a terrible side.

Charlie Cameron will take the small forward spot, but Kossie is a chance to make the squad. Fritsch probably doesn't do enough aside from kicking goals - not a knock on him, but he's probably competing with Greene who has been better. Salem will make the squad but probably wasn't good enough in the second half of the year to make the team. Some good players will miss out.

I reckon it will look something like this:

FB: Lever Andrews Stewart

HB: Rich May Dale

C: Merrett Oliver Macrae

HF: Stringer Hawkins Petracca

FF: Cameron McKay Greene

Fol: Gawn Bontempelli Wines

Int: Miller NicNat Steele Aliir

I like your side but I don't think Cameron is in AA form. I think Papley should get the nod. Apart from the fact he has had a great year, you probably have to put a Sydney Swan player in and Parker, Mills, Heeney and maybe Tom Hickey come into consideration and may make the squad but I don't think any of those will make the team and while Papley may not make it I think they'll go for a second full forward in the spot rather than Cameron. I spose we'll see.

I always think they should keep a spot in the AA for a small forward who tackles, terrorises and kicks goals. They are exciting and always one of my favorite players. I am so happy we have a genuine contender in Kossie, he is a great player in great form. His first goal the other night was a beauty and he had a big hand in our comeback kicking 2 more goals and setting up Fritsch with a beautiful kick inside 50. So I thought through all the contenders for that spot.

Dees; Kozzie, Spargo and ANB all good players, Kozzie the X Factor that usually gets the nod in AA selection. Just a note on how good our coaching has been to identify a style of play with these 3 involved and stick fat with them when a lot of us were calling for them to be dropped at times. Looking at the list of other teams, we have a good mix of players and a dangerous forward line.

Port; Butters, Gray and Rozee. No real contender. All good players but injury and Rozee is more a hff

Geelong; Close and Miers, both good players but fringe players in Geelong side so nowhere near AA selection and a concern for Geelong going forward. Think how good Cockatoo Collins is now going at Lions for pennies. Bad list management by Geelong.

Lions; Cameron, Zac Bailey, Coleman and McCarthy. A developing and dangerous lot of smalls the Lions finished top for points for for the H/A season due in no small part to their mix of small forwards, all offering a different set of troubles to backlines. Cameron is the genuine star but not in AA form but could rip a finals series apart. Zac Bailey is a star as well but has played a bit more up the field. Still is top 10 in this category but not AA forward pocket. McCarthy is more in the Toby Green mould and while handy is not AA. Coleman at 21 and 19 games is a coming star of the game, who we can hopefully shut out on Saturday

Dogs'; Weightman. Is a star and will be top 2 or 3 in this list for the next decade. Max already hates him and he will have plenty of mark/goal of the year nominations over the next decade. I think Kozzie is just ahead of him as he's played all year but Weightmans rise has been impressive.

Sydney; Papley. Rarely mentioned in AA talk but surely he tops this list. Is a genuine star and has the best celebrations in the comp. Should be in AA just ahead of Kozzie.

GWS; Green will be AA and is a super star of the comp, top 10 in the league, but not a small forward by my definition. Like McCarthy for Lions or Fritsch for us or Rohan for Geelong is a mid sized forward that plays a different role. Can go in the other pocket.

Essendon; McDonald Tipungwuti. No

Others; Ryan for West Coast is a great player but obviously not this year

Betts for Carlton. He could own the position. The Eddie Betts pocket in the AA side for the small crumbing forward. Another accolade and the naming of another pocket with the Adelaide oval as more decoration to a great career.

I've possibly forgotten someone but I love the position, think it should be recognised in AA lists and offers some of the best and most exciting players in the comp. And we have Kozzie!!!!!!

Does anyone know how far away Hunt is? I would like to see him back in the line up. Also I think Hibbo should come back in.

As good as Bowey is and will be I think he might get exploited defensively, so maybe Bowey and Smith go out for Hibbo and hopefully Hunt.

2 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Big men that plateau at an early age.  Hmmm did not realise that was a thing for AFL - actually can’t think of any examples of this. 

more likely outcome will be continual improvement with peak years between 25-30y.o. 

Grundy. Mind you Grundy never had the athleticism like Jackson has. Natanui looked a coming superstar early doors and now at times looks a liability. Too heavy and slow. I'm not saying it will happen, just playing a bit of devils advocate. He's good now. Why do we have to saddle players with expectation. I think he's just enjoying himself and it won't always be that way.

I know people compare him to Daniels from the dogs but I think he is more like Parish from Essendon. Both great players and we would be happy if he becomes anywhere near as good as those two. 

I think his next level in a year or two is into the midfield. He is very quick.

I am enjoying him now, he has had a great year. I urge Demon fans to do the same as sometimes big men like Jackson can become slower over the years and can plateau at an early age. Don't get me wrong he still has upside for a year or two but beyond that injuries and lack of motivation can creep in. 

He has a completely different build to most young men at 19. Take Max for example. Max was skinny and hadn't developed into his body. He was prone to injuries and did both knees. It's only after 5 or 6 years that he learnt about what works for his body and how to get the most out of himself and got very fit and arrived at about 26 - 28 as a fantastic player that he is today.

Jackson has an Adonis body at a young age. Look at the size of his bum and thighs. They are huge and allow him to compete with men much older, slightly stronger and heavier. His jump is really good and his big thighs allow him to push off and out of contests. Hopefully he takes a long time to age and can keep his "bouncability". But it is no guarantee.

31 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Should the AFL cancel round 23, and get the current top 8 to WA to commence finals weekend of 3/4 Sept?

Hopefully West Coast and Fremantle miss finals and the AFL can put up a hard border to WA until about April next year

5 minutes ago, dworship said:

Is that a question, an affirmation, a spelling mistake or a bodily movement?

A keyboard fart

This seems a silly thread to me. We clearly have the best 25 players going around in the competition and none of the suggested players would get a game in our team. You guys are just wanting to improve Casey!

Congratulations ANB I'm sure I cursed you in more than half your games but it's great to see a player keep trying and eventually succeed. A premiership medallion would look great around your neck and not many would deserve it more.

I loved it when he kicked a goal in the third (I think) and he, Kossie and Spargo crashed into each other in a big hug fest. Really good synergy amongst the three smalls.

33 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

There might be someone stupid enough to do so. But highly unlikely we could fetch a draft pick in that 20-25 range.

I'm not so sure. I think he offers a fair bit to the right club and I value him as an under 30 pick. What did we get for Pruess? Weidemann at 24 has enough upside for a few clubs to want him. 

Harmes is an enigma, no doubt. His grunt is important. Strength and run from contest to contest excellent, pressure good and can help us break even in an area that then allows Oliver, Trac and others to get going. But his inability to do the simple things well let alone when he overthinks the occasion is a massive cross against his game. If you give the ball back to good sides unlike GC today they will beat us. In finals you need to hold on to the ball and keep it going your way. 

But against Yeo and a mature West Coast midfield he probably stays in but he must be put on notice to get his disposal right. You would hope Jordan and Sparrow have higher potential and can eventually keep him out of the side, but we will probably have him in this finals series, hopefully it will be a successful one.

11 minutes ago, COOLX said:

 Scomo wants  80 percent Ozzie lab  rats to be vax twice . The non vax 20 per cent wouldn't be allowed to visit the footy, hence 20 percent less attendance , 20 percent less members and 20 percent less revenue. These lockdowns are going to go on for a long time with each state playing silly buggars. We may end cancelling the footy this year. As a Dee supporter I feel gutted , we our reserve team has more byes than not taking into consideration the VFL start 3 later than the AFL. Next thing will happen Victorian TAB online punters won't be able to bet on QLD and NSW races in fear of catching the Virus. I also heard that the Delta variant came from Greece. (Delta is a Greek letter)

"They all come from greek mate. I'm telling ya! Alpha, Beta, Delta. That China Wuhan story is jus [censored] mate. They were invented in Afens mate."

51 minutes ago, old dee said:

You have my vote DZ.

AZ DZ?

Sorry just reread that and it looks like I'm wanting injuries to happen. I certainly don't.

I think we need to challenge a few players and mix it up. It's time for a new game style, or try something to get a few ideas.

I know it's crazy and won't happen, but I'd rest Gawn and Tracc!!!!!

I'd play Salem in the midfield and Brayshaw back. I'd like to get a look at Declase on a wing.

The main reasoning behind resting Tracc and Gawn is to hand over the leadership to some of the others and tell them they need to step up. Salem should be a leader out there but constantly just runs around getting cheap kicks. He gets very comfortable and goes under the radar. Get him in the midfield mix or at least on a wing and into the game more. Get him connecting forward.

Gawn played like he was an island against the dogs, constantly almost giving up on connecting with his midfield and grabbing the ball and lolly popping it forward. And I think a lot of players wait for Tracc to win the game, without trying to win it themselves.

We'd probably lose and I'd look silly but thats my fix.

Actually by posting this post I'm already looking silly. But think of this. We have been injury free and have not had to bring in fringe players and develop them within team structures. Is this a bad thing or a good thing? In our case I'm not sure.

I'm a little worried about the G.

We have been awful there our past three at least. I think we need to show we can play well there pretty soon. There are obviously other factors and excuses for 1 win, 1 loss and a draw,  but hard to know with Melbourne. Apart from beating Essendon there in a slog our previous win there (had games switched out through Covid 4 ) was round 9 against Carlton. Our forward 50 entries have been terrible. I'm not sure how many more games we play there before finals but it would be nice to show we can play the ground well against a big opponent.

I can handle a loss if it's tight and we at least play well. Hopefully we pull on our big boys jumpers and give those dogs a walloping

8 minutes ago, dino rover said:

A lot of them were cheap joe the goose / out numbers in the goal square. I dont think it marks him as a gun fwd

To be fair to Weed he was also rucking against Lobbe and Buzzer guys much bigger than him

I don't either and I never said it did, I'm just observing that a guy playing his first VFL game seemed a more natural forward than Weeds. I know I'm being a bit harsh on Weeds and I certainly wish him well and hope he can make it, but it's with a view as to whether he can make it at AFL level. As a forward I find him a bit disappointing and constantly out of position or easily defended against. And one of Weeds goals was also a joe goose over the top as well.

Went to Werribee on Saturday to watch the game and check out our next likely players to come in.

Bedford was interesting, along with Chandler, Bowey and Lockhart as small quick players and I tend to agree Bedford has a bit of potential and could make the grade, but only just and all four were below our AFL small brigade of Spargo, ANB, Kossie, and even Hunt and Hibberd who sometimes play on smalls. Unless there is injury they probably won't get a look in this year. 

For the Bowey fans I still don't see any reason for him to play AFL for a year or two. He has the Salem smarts about him but doesn't have an AFL body yet, so needs a couple more pre-seasons and natural growth.

Weidemann is a bit dissapointing. He doesn't play the role of the lead up forward and constantly gets caught out the back of contests. White and Ellison were the two presenting all the time and the fact Ellison who is a natural forward kicked six in his first VFL game is an indictment on Sam. Ellison could have kicked more as he found space early in the day but was ignored as we kept looking for Weeds. (Just a note that Ellison was minded by the 3rd defender whereas Weeds would often attract more than one defender)

Sparrow is still the next in and Melksham has a touch of class and remains in the mix.

Just a note on the Casey boys. Obviously with low injuries there is a lot of AFL listed players in the team so the Casey boys opportunities are limited, but all of them played good games.

And finally I thought two of the most promising players out there were No's 68 George Grey and 40 Kye Declase.   

George Grey was fantastic, quick, clever and in everything, he definitely has a future and we should get him on the list ASAP. Declase played the wing taking over from Rosmann who was largely unsighted unfortunately, But Declase is another who could definitely go to AFL level. He is tall, and plays the wing role really well with good endurance and skills, and with Ellison kicking six our depth is good and Casey are flying. Well done to our recruiters and VFL coaches and development staff.

Just now, Ethan Trembley said:

That’ll be because of Craig, he has IBS. 

Sounds nasty. Excuse my ignorance but whats IBS?  Is it catchy? I've had one shot of the vaccine.

1 minute ago, Ethan Trembley said:

No need to get off to go to the loo, there’s a bucket we all share. Fat Craig normally sits on it to look after it. 

I thought the bathwater tasted funny

1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

Quick. everybody back on the bandwagon

That's unfair. I just went to the toilet