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  1. 6 hours ago, Redleg said:

    Underside of his upper arm connects,  as his fist is trying to connect with ball.

    Jonathan Brown has said a suspension would be the worst tribunal decision ever. Pretty strong.

    I agree. 

    First it was a hospital ball.

    Second Van Rooyen had every right to try to spoil as he was within distance if he ran at top pace.

    Third. The only reason he missed the ball was because he was trying not to collect the Suns player as best he could. If he just went to hit the ball with no regard for Ballard he would have connected but it would have been worse for Ballard. You can see by the way he sort of reaches down JVR was actually trying to hit the ball but not collect the player. He wasn't quite successful but there was clearly no malice and a part of the play. It was a hospital ball. 

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  2. 39 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    On the umpiring, I get it, that was a free against Gawn to Chol, but all the rage online about us being gifted the win from the umpires seems a touch rich to me given that in the final two minutes alone and before that Chol marking contest:

    1. Viney gets shirtfronted after disposing of the ball with no free/50; and
    2. Anderson gets caught stone cold holding the ball on our forward 50 after trying to side step JVR then throwing it out of the tackle

    We got the better of the umpires in the fourth quarter but the Suns were well favored in the third by getting 4 frees in front of goal for 3 goals 1. The only time the commentators made reference to the umpires in the third was when Fritsch arm slapped the Suns defender to stop him marking (which was probably a free) and Kozzie ran in to goal.

    The commentators were openly barracking for the Suns. They're professionalism was pathetic. MFC should complain. They were the main instigators of people saying how lucky we were.  

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  3. I say NO to this prospective deal, but I said NO to Grundy, NO to Elliot from pies, NO to getting rid of Hogan, definitely NO to Jack Watts going and was even upset when we passed on Gysberts.

    So I've had a crack and got a pretty terrible strike rate, so unfortunately I am banned from having an opinion "in this space" 

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  4. 2 hours ago, A F said:

    I reckon they may as well put the Suns in the bin. A terrible football club.

    Terrible coach. St Kilda and Gold Coast were about equal at the end of last year in potential and most would have had Gold Coast ahead of Saints in pre-season prognostications. I had both outside top eight.

    St Kilda only have about 28 players to pick from yet they have desire, structure and purpose in spades. I don't think I've seen a better example of coaching making a difference. He's a weird bloke Ross Lyon but he can certainly coach. A couple of those players are going to be stars of the competition. To name a couple Owens and Caminiti. 

    And just a note of sobriety to all our frothing at Freos failures (myself included) that Caminiti was last player on a list in 2023, overlooked by everyone. Draft picks don't win premierships.

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  5. 42 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    He's going to be hard to knock out of the side if Sunday's performance is anything to go by. He looked quicker and sharper than what I had in my mind. Keep doing that and he puts the heat on players such as Harmes, Sparrow, Hunter, Bowey and even Viney and ANB if their form dropped off. Would hate to see him leave but players are going to.

    Totally agree. I thought it was his best game for the club. He looks to have fined down a bit and has been coached to keep movement on the ball. Super fit and looked the 3rd best midfielder in our team. Went straight past Harmes in one game. Reminded me of McRae from the Dogs. Really hope we keep playing him and find a way to keep him on our list.

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  6. Okay. If we need to look at resting a player who is our most important player over the next 5 weeks who would that be?...............waiting.........waiting. Okay I'll give you a clue. No I'll just tell you. Grundy.

    Shoey's out so we will just win the clearances anyway. BB and Grundy out. Pickett and someone else in. And stop trying to figure out which in form and hungry player to drop. Job done.

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  7. I always wonder how finals work. Do the players get their weekly equivalent, do they get bonus's for winning finals and does the Afl pay for all that and is it seperate from the TPP? Apart from the glory and players natural competitiveness is it worth playing in finals or getting the extra 4 weeks off? 

  8. 3 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

    Sorry but Gaze has always been that way. Did a few b-ball clinics with him back in the day and he was a total larakin. Exactly as he "plays" now. He's just one of those guys that tries everything to make people smile.

    Yeah fair enough, I shouldn't be knocking someone with that motive, that drive show on SEN with Andy Maher is really bad though.

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  9. It's sad really. I think he's given up. He's lost sight of himself. Everyone thinks he's a fool so he plays the fool.

    The whole industry is sad really. So many ex footballers out there who think they're comedians. 

    My pet hate is (obviously not an ex footballer) Andrew Gaze. Had a very decorated career and now has created a terrible caricature of himself as this over enthusiastic fool who thinks he's funny. Just too sad.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Out with a head knock for next week's game V Port.

    This is a real problem for Luke.

    He had trouble passing the concussion test when he was at full fitness. He'll have to study hard if he's going to pass that test. Could take years.

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  11. I have been to a few pre-season training sessions and here are my thoughts.

    Forwards

    JVR to debut round 1 alongside TMac and Fritta. Ben Brown looks really well at training but I am guessing they are holding him back and his aim will be 10-12 games and be one of the fit ones come finals if we make it. I think they may rotate them a bit. Schache is the injury back-up. He can't hold a mark but is an option to "create a contest" if one of the other 3 go down.

    Chandler is being set up for Kozzies role in the forward line. They may revert to Kossie at some stage but I think Kossie might be played almost as a wild card through the middle and forward of centre. Chandler has had an excellent pre-season. He is almost a lock to come in. Spargo has had an excellent pre-season as well and is a lock in his position. His work in Match sims has been very good.

    This leaves a few headaches with ANB who should hold his spot. Harmes and Melksham are candidates to miss. So the main 6 in my mind will be Chandler,  Spargo and ANB as the smalls and JVR, TMac and Fritta as the main targets. Harmes or Melksham may get a go as the 7th forward off the bench, especially if they take the teams to 23 and no sub.

    Lawrie is a long shot but should move to the midfield for Casey and if he goes past Dunstan who is an injury back up at best then he may get a go in the second half of the season, and those that think Sestan is a chance in my humble are kidding themselves. He is strong and he will take his chances near goal but his weaknesses are glaring. He gets caught with the ball a lot and his disposal is poor. Has a lot to work on.

    Jefferson in one pre-season has been impressive. He is a natural footballer and has a lot of upside. Saw him on Wednesday after one play completely exhausted and unable to chase or compete even so clearly isn't AFL ready. An ideal youngster to take through the VFL system and should be a ripper in a year or two.

    Not sure about Howes. I like him but I'm not sure where he goes. He is the player that I don't know about.

    Mids Apart from the obvious we have Jordan, Sparrow, Hunter, Kossie and Grundy to fit in. It is probable the mids take 8 spots of the 22/23. Gawn, Trac, Oliver, Viney and Langdon are locks. Only injuries or inexplicable poor form would rule those 5 out. Jordan has been excellent in pre-season and looks ready to be given a full time crack. Having said that I'm not sure where but he and indeed Sparrow should make up the mid rotations. This still leaves Hunter, Grundy and Kossie without spots. I'm getting into trouble here.

    I think Woey is a mid as well but must be behind these players. I'm hoping he tears it apart at VFL level and pushes up for a second half year debut.

    Backs

    May, Lever and Petty and I think Brayshaw are locks. Brayshaw has done all pre-season off half back. Hibberd was flying in pre-season before  getting injured. He may be over-looked for early rounds. I talked to Salem who said the thyroid issue shows up in blood tests. His reading is low I think. You can take pills to control high but only rest helps low. (I'm not sure what blood read out they test for and I'm clearly no doctor but he has to go through a pre-season build up again and keep his blood levels even.) I suggested mid -season and he was pretty sure if all goes well it will be early season. Either way 2 players who are mostly best 22 probably won't be there in round one.

    So we have only 2 players to go or 3 if one extra goes to the bench. Choosing from Rivers, Bowey and Turner as the main candidates, with McVee and Deakin Smith as others well in the mix as most here have indicated. Both McVee and Smith have had good pre-seasons with McVee being used with intent. He and Turner, depending on size of opposition forward lines may share that role. I hope Rivers and Bowey are the two who make up the six backmen.

    Tomlinson will be a great full back at Casey and could walk into lesser teams, but I think has gone behind Turner.

    Joel Smith will probably get his body finally right in time to move on at the end of the year.

    Farris Wite should be someone to watch at VFL level. He is really quite good. I think. He needs to not get injured and play 18 odd games at VFL level. With the talent he has around himself and the obvious progress he has made in just one pre-season, he is an exciting prospect for the future.

    Adams looks good and will hopefully play 10-15 games at VFL level, hard to do taking on guys older and stronger so we wish him well.

    Plenty of depth and a lot of fun ahead. Hopefully we see the team develop further as they need to.

     

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  12. 3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Im not trying to be negative I’m just saying teams change so quickly these days. If we draft good players they’ll play games in years 2-4 post draft. Whether they’ll highly talented skill guys or more role players still developing their upside. If they’re good they’ll get games once they’re physically ready. 

    Yeah again I mainly agree with you, lists do change quite a lot, and surprisingly quickly, I was just putting forward an opposing view.  I think they are both worthwhile views and quite opposite to one another. The other thing to take into account is money. Every list needs balance whereby the wages of your bottom paid players, depth and developing players, can be just as important as your stars. I will be surprised though if our 2022 recruits get much of a show in their first 2 years. But hopefully it makes them hungry.

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  13. 36 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    2 later first rounders to get up the draft is well worth a go. 3 is upping the risk and putting a lot of pressure on a player. No matter how slowly you develop them they'd still get the tag of being a guy who had 3 firsts spent on them. Suddenly you're back putting undue pressure on young kids again. 

    I agree but the opposing argument is also valid. That being that we have a team that is already hard to break into with Bowey, JVR and maybe Turner, Woewodin and Howes etc wanting their chances, to pick up a kid who's upside is fringe at best seems like a waste of resources. Given our draft position it will be very hard for the 'class of 22' to have any impact on our AFL team in the next two to three years.

    If Taylor and co. get an AFL talent into our side in the next two years from this years draft they will have done a very good job.

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  14. The crowd at Ikon Park was definitely dissapointing.

    Lovely balmy evening, but very few there considering the players close contacts were probably half the crowd. From the west myself I refuse to trek out to Casey any more, but try to get to any game within inner city, but this year we were so often at Casey or interstate it just highlights our issues of a home ground. Maybe we would have got more at Casey? 

    I think we'll win it this year and if our last two finals are at Ikon Park I'll be wrapped. Free parking everywhere 2 minutes from the ground.

    This is Daisy's last hurrah I would think and if they finally get a flag it would be fitting for the standout icon of the Women's game. I think Daisy will be as important and as much loved in Melbournes history as Robbie Flower in years to come. People really should be taking their chance to see her in action. Also if your as lucky as me you might also get to see Allissa Bannen go for a 7 bounce run around the wing leaving a couple of crows players in her dust. Wow, she's terrific.

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  15. On 10/4/2022 at 12:05 PM, george_on_the_outer said:

    4. We have only had a handful of women on the MFC board in our history.  We still don't have a true representation of our members.

    Does this mean Collingwood should have a dog on their board.

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  16. 3 hours ago, A F said:

    You might have been brought in a time when housing was affordable on a single income. We've now had 31 years of underemployment in Australia (ie Australians needing more than one job to keep up) and a housing boom since the late 80s that has locked out two and a half generations from the housing market.

    The world isn't as simple as you or your mother portray it. In the words of The Waterboy, "well, mumma's wrong again!"

    I don't know your personal situation AF but I certainly don't know of too many footballers of the ilk of Jackson that are concerned by having to work 2 jobs to "keep up."

    Of course it was a different time, and my mother who is 94 was talking about that time. So she wasn't wrong. And your rubbish about 2.5 generations being locked out of the housing market is just that. Rubbish. 

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  17. 2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    It isn't just WA players.  Here are a few others in recent times that have gone home within a few years of being drafted.. 

    • Tom Boyd:  pick 1
    • Josh Schache:  pick 2
    • Jesse Hogan: pre draft priority pick
    • Luke Jackson:  pick 3
    • Adam Cerra:  pick 5
    • Jason Horn Francis:  pick 1
    • Tanner Bruhn:  pick 12
    • Isaac Rankine:  pick 3

    I'm sure there are lots of others around the league.

    And of course many have stayed the course at an i/state club.  But still a big risk at the pointy end.

    So good on WCE.

    Geelong are certainly adopting the recruit locals appproach.  Most of their top end recruits in recent years have been 'locals' ie Greater Geelong region.  Nearly half their list will be 'locals'

    It's parenting. For better or worse.

    My mum always said that children when they get to an adult need to be "kicked out of the nest"

    Dads were very big on loyalty. Stick to your club. They are your new home.

    Nowadays the kids are told, just do you're time and you can trade back home.

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