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  1. 2 minutes ago, A F said:

    Mate, you realise the orange wave is back, right? We need to ensure exits are blocked and we retain territory. Best way to do that is smalls. We've lost one small already in Spargo, so this should give us the best chance to nullify them.

    It's not a very sexy word Nullify. Great word though. To nullify, make zero. ANB the Nullifier. I'm going to nullify you.

    There should be more 12 year olds wanting to nullify their opponent. Instead they all just want to kick goals after the siren and win the game.

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  2. 1 hour ago, binman said:

    Not sure how long you have been following the dees, but we have a very different definition of what could be considered a disappointing team.

    I have been following the dees for aprox 45 years but started going to games regularly in 1978 (by myself back then - no one i knew barracked for the dees).

    That year we won the wooden spoon. Fun times. 

    We had a stellar year in 1979 and really started our march up the ladder, ending the season in 11th. Not bad until you consider there were only 12 teams. And that time Fitzroy thrashed us by a still record margin was such a gas. 

    But boy o boy, was 1980 awesome. We were marching up the ladder! Jumped up to 9th (in a 12-team competition)!

    Oh, oh - 1981 wasn't much fun. Yet another wooden spoon. 

    So bad were we that we came within a bees whisker of merging with the Hawks and the oldest sporting club in the world almost ceasing to exist. 


    The Neeld years.

    Et cetera; et cetera; et cetera.

    Hopefully, you get my drift. 

    In all seriousness, we are currently 4th on the ladder with an ok injury list and a soft run home.

    We are currently equal third favorite to win the flag (but will enter the finals as favorite IMHO).

    We are $1.40 to make the top 4 (by way of contrast the Cats are next best at $6 to make the top 4 and the Saints, who are only four points behind us, are $7 to make the top 4). For context, we are 1.40 to win Sunday and Winx ran around at that price.  

    A serious question - do you rate the Pies?

    Well, a reminder, we beat them, the favorites for the flag, just two games ago! Can't have your cake and eat it too - if we are a disappointing side, the Pies must be pretenders not contenders. 

    But really, in what universe could this current dees team, premiers in 2021 and finished second on the ladder at the end of the 2022 H&A season (and yes, we went out in straight sets in the finals), be considered a disappointing team?

    Not in my universe i can assure you. 

    Well thats a trip down memory lane. I've barracked for the dees for the last 55 odd years and have lived through all those dissapointments year on year. My mate from Kindergarten barracked for the Dees and we still go along to the G most games, we're both 62, have lovely families and long suffering wives.

    We were at the game for the record loss to Fitzroy. When we were around 16 we would go to a few games then when our season was done for the year we'd go off to the races. My mate says thats the only good thing barracking for Melbourne gave us was a love for the races.

    I think the day of the Grand Final loss to the Hawks was the worst. I ended up so drunk and being kicked off a tram in the city into the arms of police and shouting "leave me alone! I barrack for Melbourne" They let me walk it off.

    2021 was extroadinary. I never thought I'd live to see it. I had smug Hawks and Tigers supporter in-laws and just thought there was too much against the smaller clubs for them to ever see success. 2016 gave us hope when the Dogs won. But what a year.

    I'm only mucking around. Playing devils advocate against peoples hope. I like taking a position and being proven wrong. I don't give us much hope this year. Happy to be wrong. As for Collingwood, they were terribly undermanned against us. Replace that Finn McGuiness or whoever he is that replaced Ginnivan and we probably lose. But it was a good win. I was very happy.

    I don't think Collingwood will win it either by the way, I think Port and Brizzy will finish top two and get through to the GF. As a betting man I'd give you 50-1 (which I won't, I'm a punter not a bookie) for us to win 8 of our last 9 games. I'll take a position and say we'll win 5 of our last 9 games. Happy to have a bet on closest to the pin.

    Hope you win. Go Dees.

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  3. 15 minutes ago, binman said:


    Don't mention the switch!!!!!!!!!

    Way, way too triggering for some. 

    By the by, here's how I see the next few games - which will involve intermittent switch flicking before  the switch gets permanently flicked.

    Nine day break into the giants game (and travel, so essentially forced rest) - attacking footy and run all over the giants (who are coming off their bye). Look a different team than the dour, gassed unit in the 4th quarter against the cats.


    Six day break and travel into the saints game - much to the chagrin and consternation of many DL posters, another dour, defence first match with little fast transition from the back. 

    Fortunately the saints, with their dour, deliberate ball movement and defence first game plan can't exploit our lack of run - particularly at marvel with its lack of space.


    Six day break into a Friday night game at the g v lions - dour, but not as dour as the saints game.

    Some fascinating variables: the lions are also coming off a six day break, but unlike us have to travel; 8 point game (could well determine if lions get a gabba final week one - potentially against us); lions are slow and so won't be able to exploit any lack of run we have the way, say the dogs would; the G factor.

    50 50 game. 

    Round 19 - 24 - hello moto; starting with a 9 day break into the crows game, we have a great run home with only one short break - six days between the roos and blues games. Two travelss - tassie and Sydney. But the Sydney game is followed by the pre finals bye, so no post game impact.

    Unleash the beast and a return to the offensive power of rounds 1-5 (and round 16). Wow. David King says we changed our approach. DL posters say the same. No mention of 'scoring problems'. 

    Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win.

    Happy days.

    That is some crazy rose glasses you've put on there Binman. Are you taking the [censored]. Surely. How can you have such faith in such a disappointing team? 


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  4. 9 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

    Mate, your last three paragraphs are simply hyperbolic sweeping statements. None of it is based on any evidence, just the liberatarian ramblings of someone who thinks authorities shouldn't intervene to minimise its citizens "losing the plot and doing bad things" (whatever that means).

    I mean honestly... "the do-gooders of this world are the same type of people that "took the children away" in their era" ???

    Reminds me of what Deeluded used to write!

    Well then Mate, I think I might like Deeluded. And yes thats a pretty good summary of my ramblings. Sorry I didn't fact check. But I don't have the finances, unlike our Government to commission a report and spend millions working out that

    1. advertising can have an adverse affect on children and...

    2. gambling has the potential to ruin lives.

    As to who took the children away it's a well known fact it was the church that wanted to "save" the children and bring them up as good wholesome christians. They genuinely thought they were doing the right thing. Just like it's the government of today, trying to save us from ourselves. 

    Mind you they've had their successes, banning smoking and compulsory seatbelts. But I'm just rambling again. Sorry they upset you so.


  5. I worked in the racing industry for many years and still bet weekly. I love the game and hate the ads just as much as everyone else. I also bet on the footy as many do. 

    The issue of the people that dictate what we should be doing or not with our lives is worse. The do-gooders of this world are the same type of people that "took the children away" in their era. The fact that anyone is so arrogant to think they live better, know better, are better, than others are quite possibly the worst people in the world.

    All this report will be just like the billion dollar fining industry we have in this State. Its all based on "statistics of the dammed". ie they take their stats from the poor people out there who end up gambling their house away on pokies or unstable people who get behind the wheel of a car and destroy lives.

    The end result is we see a different set of adds on tele. Nothing else changes. People still lose the plot and do bad things.

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  6. Watching Tomlinson versus Petty, Tomlinson is a very good chip kicker of the ball. Hits targets and his last two games at both AFL/VFL levels show that. He needs to come back in as we showed again the long down the line uber predictability too much against Geelong. May/Lever look around to short pass then always go long down the line, more and more so under pressure. 

    Petty is probably better against talls, especially resting rucks. I think we've upset him in his development this year trying to create a swingman and for mine they need to play him as a forward at VFL level. BBB was great in the VFL and he got to the backline and up the ground a lot. I think that is how they want Petty to play so send him back to the VFL and get him successful there before bringing him back to AFL level. Having Petty, JVR and Smith as a forward line is just crazy as they don't have the experience individually let alone as a cohesive unit. 

    Bring BBB back in as his forward craft will help us a lot and his accuracy can really help settle us into games.

    I agree our 4 small forwards isn't working. I'd drop ANB. He could really benefit from a stint at VFL level. Instruct him to practice being clean with the ball and more creative. Look to attack more as he needs to bring more to the AFL side than tackling. Smith could play his role as he is worth pursuing as a forward. Also playing only two smalls in Chandler and Kossie is worth a try as well. It may actually free them up and increase our scoring.

    Out Petty, ANB, Spargo

    In BBB, Tomlinson and maybe Bowey, 

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  7. 6 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

    It is actually gobsmacking how arrogant our coaching department/Goodwin are in these regards.  We seem to want to win or lose in our own "unique" way.  Just ignore what other teams have done successfully and try and bash them into submission with a gameplan that that is barbaric at best.

    I strongly dislike (hate) how we say things like "that wasn't the Melbourne way" and "we need to get the game on our terms". Goody says this sort of thing all the time , the players say it and we the supporters say it. 

    It's most parts rubbish. Do you think Scott goes into the rooms after the game and says "gee how lucky were we, Melbourne didn't play the Melbourne way tonight."

    True pressure came on and we crumbled. Is ANB fumbling the "Melbourne way?" It certainly seems to be the ANB way. ANB is now a player who doesn't really want the ball anymore. He'd rather wait till his opponent picks it up and then tackle them. His 1 wood is tackling. Forward line pressure. All very well but how about we create goals rather than stoppages. He needs to be a player in his own right, not just some bit part player deferring to the "stars" of our side. Playing a role. Bad coaching. He could be so much better. Some of these "role" players need to be given more responsibilty. You be the man. Stop relying on others.

    We are going nowhere.

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  8. Thats it. We're done.

    People will laugh and carry on about negativity but this is the first time this year I've posted such negativity because I wasn't sure until now where we stood. But once again Scott has shown us up as absolute pretenders.

    As an example Spargo comes on and plays fake tough man and gives away 50 metres. He should have spoiled. How many times did Geelong spoil the ball. Thats tough. Not what Spargo did. But no-one will tell him off. If he spoils that ball like he should have, everyone gets around him and is energised. Instead he'll get dropped.

    Look at Rohan. He was about as quarter as good as when he came across from Sydney and their coaches turned him into a good footballer. 

    Tanner Bruhn in his 11th game for the Cats starred out of the middle.  

    We'll win enough to play finals and may even look dangerous as we head into finals but make no mistake.

    We are pretenders. 

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  9. 11 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    yep,   back your players in. Cannot omit Smith or Tommo after their recent winning efforts.  No change to team unless Oliver is given green light by medical staff. Petty to VFL for a game or 2. Didnt Bowey get tossed around by cats last year?

    Yes it was one of Scotts strategies to be very physical with Bowie and not give him any time with ball in hand. Really unsettled him and he had problems for the rest of the year. They will more than likely try something similar with McVee. I'm not sure this is a good game for Bowie to return.

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  10. The thing is this game is one of the very modern great rivalries. And the AFL are disrespecting our standing in the game and the rivalry by playing the game at KP.

    2021 we showed them up and it was one of the reasons for Geelong's change of game plan and man-management systems. Chris Scott hates losing and although I dislike him and half the Geelong team, he plotted and planned to take us down in 2022. We were soundly beaten, looked like we didn't even see what was coming and were totally out coached. It was a cornerstone game for Geelong's assault on the flag and our meek finish to the year. 

    So ...1. Why are the two past premiers only playing once this year and 

             2. Why down at the cattery?

    The AFL are totally disrespectful to our club and should be asked to explain.

    Don't think this won't be a cracking game of football. If we don't understand how important it is to get the ascendancy over Geelong  we don't understand the gang mentality of footy. If we are to win the flag this is a must win game. If we enter the game like last year just thinking we'll win, even though they are down this year, they will have plans and be super switched on. We have to beat them and kill off their 2023 campaign. This is nothing to do with whos out there but the attitude of every player to win. If we don't we are kidding ourselves.

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  11. 41 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Except Razor Ray. 

    He's every Ch 7 comentators favorite celebrity umpire.

    I've even seen kids running around in bright yellow T-shirts with Razor's number on the back.

    Love you Ray - now F off.

    To highlight how random umpiring can be remember last week when Grundy in a ruck duel out bodied the North ruck who then scragged Grundy as he lost his balance and fell to the ground. Razor came in to give a free to Grundy who didn't wait for Razor to award him the free but just grabbed the ball and ran back getting ready to go. Razor more or less in a show of petulant power one-up-manship awarded the free to the North ruck for Grundy slinging him to the ground. Max then followed Razor down the ground chirping at him. I would love to hear what he said.

    Anyway I'm sure Razor changed his mind to teach Grundy a lesson. But what is much worse is that the frees nowadays in over 50% of occasions can go either way. They are just random.

    Virtually every other sport on the planet has upped their game to improve the spectacle, reduce bad umpiring mistakes and let the players decide the outcome of matches. The AFL meantime think the  problem lies with us.

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  12. 6 hours ago, Redleg said:

    Underside of his upper arm connects,  as his fist is trying to connect with ball.

    Jonathan Brown has said a suspension would be the worst tribunal decision ever. Pretty strong.

    I agree. 

    First it was a hospital ball.

    Second Van Rooyen had every right to try to spoil as he was within distance if he ran at top pace.

    Third. The only reason he missed the ball was because he was trying not to collect the Suns player as best he could. If he just went to hit the ball with no regard for Ballard he would have connected but it would have been worse for Ballard. You can see by the way he sort of reaches down JVR was actually trying to hit the ball but not collect the player. He wasn't quite successful but there was clearly no malice and a part of the play. It was a hospital ball. 

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  13. 39 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    On the umpiring, I get it, that was a free against Gawn to Chol, but all the rage online about us being gifted the win from the umpires seems a touch rich to me given that in the final two minutes alone and before that Chol marking contest:

    1. Viney gets shirtfronted after disposing of the ball with no free/50; and
    2. Anderson gets caught stone cold holding the ball on our forward 50 after trying to side step JVR then throwing it out of the tackle

    We got the better of the umpires in the fourth quarter but the Suns were well favored in the third by getting 4 frees in front of goal for 3 goals 1. The only time the commentators made reference to the umpires in the third was when Fritsch arm slapped the Suns defender to stop him marking (which was probably a free) and Kozzie ran in to goal.

    The commentators were openly barracking for the Suns. They're professionalism was pathetic. MFC should complain. They were the main instigators of people saying how lucky we were.  

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  14. I say NO to this prospective deal, but I said NO to Grundy, NO to Elliot from pies, NO to getting rid of Hogan, definitely NO to Jack Watts going and was even upset when we passed on Gysberts.

    So I've had a crack and got a pretty terrible strike rate, so unfortunately I am banned from having an opinion "in this space" 

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  15. 2 hours ago, A F said:

    I reckon they may as well put the Suns in the bin. A terrible football club.

    Terrible coach. St Kilda and Gold Coast were about equal at the end of last year in potential and most would have had Gold Coast ahead of Saints in pre-season prognostications. I had both outside top eight.

    St Kilda only have about 28 players to pick from yet they have desire, structure and purpose in spades. I don't think I've seen a better example of coaching making a difference. He's a weird bloke Ross Lyon but he can certainly coach. A couple of those players are going to be stars of the competition. To name a couple Owens and Caminiti. 

    And just a note of sobriety to all our frothing at Freos failures (myself included) that Caminiti was last player on a list in 2023, overlooked by everyone. Draft picks don't win premierships.

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  16. 42 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    He's going to be hard to knock out of the side if Sunday's performance is anything to go by. He looked quicker and sharper than what I had in my mind. Keep doing that and he puts the heat on players such as Harmes, Sparrow, Hunter, Bowey and even Viney and ANB if their form dropped off. Would hate to see him leave but players are going to.

    Totally agree. I thought it was his best game for the club. He looks to have fined down a bit and has been coached to keep movement on the ball. Super fit and looked the 3rd best midfielder in our team. Went straight past Harmes in one game. Reminded me of McRae from the Dogs. Really hope we keep playing him and find a way to keep him on our list.

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  17. Okay. If we need to look at resting a player who is our most important player over the next 5 weeks who would that be?...............waiting.........waiting. Okay I'll give you a clue. No I'll just tell you. Grundy.

    Shoey's out so we will just win the clearances anyway. BB and Grundy out. Pickett and someone else in. And stop trying to figure out which in form and hungry player to drop. Job done.

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  18. I always wonder how finals work. Do the players get their weekly equivalent, do they get bonus's for winning finals and does the Afl pay for all that and is it seperate from the TPP? Apart from the glory and players natural competitiveness is it worth playing in finals or getting the extra 4 weeks off? 

  19. 3 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

    Sorry but Gaze has always been that way. Did a few b-ball clinics with him back in the day and he was a total larakin. Exactly as he "plays" now. He's just one of those guys that tries everything to make people smile.

    Yeah fair enough, I shouldn't be knocking someone with that motive, that drive show on SEN with Andy Maher is really bad though.

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  20. It's sad really. I think he's given up. He's lost sight of himself. Everyone thinks he's a fool so he plays the fool.

    The whole industry is sad really. So many ex footballers out there who think they're comedians. 

    My pet hate is (obviously not an ex footballer) Andrew Gaze. Had a very decorated career and now has created a terrible caricature of himself as this over enthusiastic fool who thinks he's funny. Just too sad.

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