Machsy

Some do.

Anyway, he wears his fair share of the blame, as do all his teammates.

I think some posters ignore the concept of "not getting sucked into contests" as it impedes our progress further afield if we do win the ball, and the concept of "backing your teammates in to win the footy."

These are things we need to get good at if we are to become a better side.

Right now, I see a lot of people lambasting Watts for not playing the "limiting the damage" type footy that has seen us to nowhere in 7 years.

For pick 1, I'd take a McRae or Stringer plus their 2nd round pick, or I'd take Clay Smith plus pick 5.

We may have to throw in maybe a 3rd round pick as a make weight.

That's a more realistic scenario.

Pick 1 (Boyd) is worth a lot more to the dogs.

GWS won't be giving up over the odds to get it.

They've got the basics of their forward line in place and just want to consolidate their talent.

If we got picks 1 and 3, If they'd take it, I would trade pick 1 to GWS for pick 2 and Taylor Adams, then use 2 & 3 on the best midfield talent in the draft.

We don't need Boyd. We need midfield grunt.

It's a terrible bloody idea, as GWS would never go for it.

They don't even want Boyd and are shopping around the number 1 pick themselves in the assumption they'll get it.

SMH.

I find it hard to take anyone seriously if they can't even spell "demonstrative."

It is a very touchy subject. Jim Stynes had leadership written all over him - he could inspire, motivate and bring people into his vision to make it happen. But he surrounded himself with red and blue devotees rather than capable managers and do-ers. Cam Schwab is a classic example.

As far as I know, there were very capable people asked to join the board, but they shied away from the role, partly because they didn't feel like they could trust some of those already in place.

From the horses mouth.

What Alan seems to focus on is anything BUT winning football matches.

I don't care about the trumpeter.

I don't care about the shade of red on the jumpers.

I don't care about people whinging about the clash jumper.

I don't care about "building the brand."

I don't care about building the membership base.

I don't care whether a player has grown 2 or 4cm over preseason.

I don't care whether the stats on the website are up to date as of 12pm yesterday.

I don't care about some members feeling the need to "have a say."

I ONLY WANT TO WIN GAMES OF FOOTY.

Whatever that takes.

And I want the board to get the club unified and working in a manner that makes sure that will happen.

Like a well oiled machine.

All the rest will fall into place in time, once we are winning games of football.

Financial stability comes with having a team that gives hope, that supporters can get behind and have faith that the team is going places.

Get the right people in place to get the footy right, and the rest is a lot simpler.

You've got a long way to go to make me think you're capable of that, Alan Stockdale.

At the moment, your MO seems to be anything but.

Not worried.

Play on.

I disagree 100%

If anything Casey helps.

At the very least our juniors get to feel what winning is like.

Completely agree with you.

The kids at Casey get to experience what it is like and should be like, when our gameplan is able to be implemented successfully.

As opposed to senior level, when all they get to do is practice limiting the damage, with occasional periods of bending over and copping it.

Does anyone remember over anylising every word Scully said?

Yes.

That's just how I'd interpret Roos' silence.

I'm not getting my hopes up.

Obviously because he now has a vested interest in the answers.

And he'd be asking questions that in the future he may not want to be in the public domain (if he takes on the coaching role).

Otherwise, if he had no intention of possibly being involved, he had no reason to sit this one out.

He always has something to say.

It is the quietest I have seen Roos ever during an interview on that show.

That's because all the questions he has on MFC are being asked behind the scenes...

I don't think Betts works hard enough defensively.

I think he is one of the players holding Carlton back, and we don't want that.

Toumpas is the Gibbs of the draft, Wines is the Selwood.

You sure Toumpas isn't the Cotchin of the draft, while Wines isn't the Rhys Palmer?

We could make these stupid ill-informed comparisons all day.

I really have not heard an MFC CEO say the things Jackson has been saying...

It's hardly a 'heard it all before' scenario.

It's also refreshing to hear the existing contacts he has with other well-credentialled operators.

Case in point: Geoff Walsh.

I like the idea of being on the inside track for once.

Really? Wow.

You'd think stupidly obvious statements were obvious to all, but not so apparently...

I'm a fan of PJ, but I've lost count of how many times I've seen you post something like that.

Each time it makes me laugh.

Where's your self-awareness?

After watching that interview Paul Roos is still firmly in the sights of PJ. he even mentioned that the sydney culture as well as Geelong is where we need to get to.

The past is gone if Jackson sticks around.

You are the epitome of the messiah complex.

Sometimes 2 players are different types of players, develop at different rates, and are both very good.

Sometimes you need 1 type a lot more than the other.

Sometimes supporters are impatient, ignorant and wear blinkers.

Anyone that can kick a footy like Toumpas will play 200 games, he's in a [censored] side with little support, if spuds like Trengove , Blease and Strauss where playing like we thought they would we wouldn't be in this position, the kid will be elite with the skills he has.

A bit simplistic - Strauss can kick a footy like Toumpas, if not better.

Not at all.

Since Jack Viney and Ollie Wines would essentially perform the same role, one would be missing out on games at the expense of the other.

Are we maybe jumping the gun in proclaiming a first year drafted to be a relative failure?

With Viney, our needs dictated that our pressing need was another "elite" (at junior level) user of the footy.

Wines is not that.

It's possible Wines is better at this strengths than we originally perceived, but that says nothing of his weaknesses.

At the same time, Toumpas has more of the "hard to find" attributes that should make him a success in the future.

I thought as football supporters we were smart enough not to judge kids on their output in their first season?

Did Viney pick Toumpas so that Vines wouldn't show up Jack jnr?

This post is embarrassing for you.

Words can't...

Why on earth would anyone think trading pick 2 would be a good idea??

Unless we can get a Dangerfield (which we won't) we should retain it and develop.

I believe there is an irrational fear of developing amongst many of our supporters, but it is the way forward with pointy end draft picks.

Yep.

More great input.

Thanks.

Any other pearls of wisdom you want to drop?

In the great words of Mark Fine: "I predict you will never own a lawnmower outright."

Great thread. Well done.