Viney12

Cause they've never let us down in the past..?

If their judgement is never to be questioned then why have a place like Demonland at all? We can just obligingly bow to their every decision.

I realise it's a bold statement to assert that Gys will be a star, but I'm still making it. I'll be sorry if he is traded at this stage. I'd like to see him go another year after a full pre-season. I also think f we can't get the best out of someone of his proven ability then that's cause for some concern. There is some sort of onus on the coaching staff here. It can't all be heaped on the player.

No, I'm not saying they shouldn't be questioned. But PREVIOUS FDs have let us down. The CURRENT FD hasn't had enough time to do so yet.

I'm more saying it, because lately, every single time a player gets mooted as being traded

"he'll be a dead set star there" "he'll dominate there" etc etc

I've just heard it SO often lately

So many people seem sure that our ex players will be stars elsewhere

Trust in the current FD to weed out excess baggage

They've done a good job so far

EDIT: also,on your last point. Ego and attitude have killed many a "potential stars" career - sometimes it is just attitude

It looks a good deal but this one will bite. Gysberts will be a star.

This kind of throw away line always gets me

If he will be a star, no questions asked, the FD wouldn't look at

a.) moving him on and

b.) moving him on at what appears to be for bargain basement prices

Surely the FD would have a better idea about a players potential star qualities than we would?

But then the conversation turns to two other potential recruits. One has superior endurance and skill, but the other is harder and tougher.

Neeld interrupts. His verdict offers the clearest insight yet into where he wants to take this club.

"Eighty thousand people, Queen's Birthday, Collingwood, Dane Swan belting the s--- out of us, who are you backing when the heat is on in the middle of the ground?" he demands.

The answers are fudgy so Neeld interrupts again: "I'm going with the grunt."

From here

Neeld was the one that had the ultimate say in drafting Taggert.

I'll find the article, but at the time it was being discussed with the selection at pick 36.

Prendergast tossed up a names, Neeld says something along the lines of "I'll always go with grunt" (referring to Taggert)

Where would we find said photos?

Yes, but I will need a toothpick, some rubber bands, half a tyre and Richard Dean Andersen.

And a time machine...

The tooth pick, rubber bands and half tyre IS the time machine

Just a hypothetical after hearing Neelds comments this morning that we have enough kids, is Dom Tyson better than Wines/O'Rourke/Toumpas/Grundy.

Would the club trade Pick 4 for him?

Not something I am in favour of doing at all, but was just asked the question by someone at lunch when he mentioned Tyson wants to head back to Victoria

Tyson has strong ties with Richmond (I believe his old man is the head of the coterie group

I think if he comes back it will be to Richmond

On the hypothetical, I'd be more inclined to grab someone in the draft

It's not as though Tyson has had years of development pumped into him and ready to go, plus it'd take a while to get the GWS stench off him

Don't stress yourself V12, it's most likely not right, but this is hypotheticals to the GWS offer,,, If things were top be.

Would you trade Jamar for anything?

Wasn't having a go at you at all by the way, I've just been reading it here and there

Nothing to do with the GWS hypotheticals

Everyone's tradeable in my book, for the right deal

However, you'd have to make sure you're getting a worthy replacement

For example, at the moment and for what we know about the top 3 / 4 draftees, I don't see much use in trading someone like Trengove for pick 2 when we don't know if Toumpas etc. is any better

Where is all this Frawley BS coming from?

Think logically, if a bloke like Frawley wanted out, it would be reported everywhere, not on hack facebook sites

OK star is a bit overs but he would be a very handy player for them. His cameos would likely be more frequent when surrounded by Lynch and CLoke and with him not taking a decent defender,

Just sayin..

Likely this and Likey that, that's all Melbourne has been for the last decade

A PROVEN Key Forward is infintely more important than a mid sized cameo playing forward

Pick 20 Petterd and a $500k contract - that is definitely overs.

Petterd would be a star at the Filth.

Based on what exactly?

A FITTER, bigger and stronger Lucas Cook is desperate to prove Melbourne wrong and transform into an AFL player at a second club.

http://www.dailytele...4-1226493750429

Cook, the under-18 All-Australian centre half-forward, is set to be delisted by the Demons after just two years on their list.

The Dees used the No. 12 pick in the 2010 draft to snag Cook but never handed him an AFL debut.

The Ballarat product has been training every second day since the season finished in a bid to earn a second chance and, with a trade unlikely to eventuate, is set to become a delisted free agent on November 1.

That means Cook, 20, can sign at the club of his choice. The delisted free agency period spans until November 13, before the second official list lodgement.

“It’s safe to say he’s not going to be at Melbourne next year. The signs aren’t good that good that they want to keep him,” Cook’s manager Marty Pask told SuperFooty.

“Right now he’s training really hard, he’s put on 3kg and he’s got a pretty extensive weights program he’s gone and got some assistance with.

“He has some interested clubs that are in the need for a key-position footballer. Some have expressed interest in him playing as a centre half-back, others as a centre half-forward.”

I'm not fussed whether we trade / delist Cook, I don't see it in him personally, but this pisses me off

He would've had the best programs and equipment at his disposal, yet NOW he decides to seek assistance with his weights

Baffling

She's referring to The Age sports journalist of the same name who IS a Dees fan.

Surely not!

This guy spewed unfounded rubbish about us this year

Feel sad for Stefan. Poorly mismanaged and developed by the club perhaps more than others. Best to him wherever he goes.

Why don't you explain exactly how this occurred?

Unconfirmed reports that we have just offered Collingwood pick 13 and Martin for Dawes and Rounds

considering trade week doesn't commence (sorry....Gilette Trade Week) until Monday, I'd say that's very unconfirmed

I think your thinking of Aaron Edwards?

Could be right

Ordinary player who always seemed to kick 3 or 4 against us

Then again who hasn't

There is probably a timid, skinnier version of him that we will go for instead.

If Bailey and Prendergast where still captaining the ship......however....

No thanks, he's very ordinary

I agree with you in essence, OD, but since we are cursed Melbourne I would expect St Kilda to pick up the next Judd with the pick before ours.

Like when they picked Ball when they could've had Judd?

Why do you think I listed those players mate? Sheesh...

I'm sorry, you've gone from bemoaning the fact we've been "quiet" on day the 1st 2 days of FA to....actually I don't even know what you're bitching about anymore

Sure other clubs have been silent, but we're in desperate need of quality players, especially if it means NOT giving up our draft picks.

Not including the draft, I would have liked to have got via trade/FA:

-Tippett

-Caddy

-K Stevens

-Byrnes

-Wellingham

Realistically, I think we'll get Dawes, Byrnes, and maybe one surprise. Depending on who the surprise is I'll be either satisfied without being happy or underwhelmed.

We can't keep relying on 18 year olds from the draft, we NEED players who have played 100 games +

WE haven;t been silent though!

We've been vocal!

Byrnes toured our facilities today

Tippett realistically will go to QLD

Re Caddy Dawes Wellingham here you go

Are happy now?

Incorrect. If you were paying attention, I said I don't like trading for contracted players. So who's moving the goal posts?!

I misread

You're still ignoring the facts that it's day 2

Many other clubs have been silent

We've been far from silent

Weve been linked to NUMEROUS players

Wellingham, Dawes, Pearce, Monfries, Byrnes, Rodan, Lynch, Caddy and so on

What more do you want us to publically do simply to appease impatient supporters?

Sign a few FA's day 1 just for the sake of it

Give me the definitive list of who you want us to trade for / get under FA

Mate you were asking about those teams so I gave you an answer.

We are in desperate need of quality players and SO FAR I'm pretty disappointed about what's known of our efforts.

I was talking in reference to FA which is what you were bleating about

You even stated you don't want trades as you want to keep draft picks

Don't change the goal posts

You said EVERYONE was having a crack

Mate - we've been linked with nearly every single out of contract FA / Player at some stage in the last couple of months

Don't act as though we're doing nothing

Dawes is a FAR better footballer than Martin