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Adelaide - Ben Rutten [best full back in the comp, a Melb deficiency] Brisbane - Johnno Brown [obvious choice to replace Neitz] Carlton - Marc Murphy [top midfield prospect] Collingwood - Scott Pendlebury [top midfield prospect] Essendon - Scott Lucas [can play either end, but obviously a dangerous forward] Fremantle - Matthew Pavlich [too good not to pick] Geelong - Matthew Scarlett [added with Rutten would definitely help the defence issues] Hawthorn - Jordan Lewis [adds a bit of toughness, very good young player] Kangaroos - Hamish McIntosh [would fill the shoes of Jeff White nicely] Port - Chad Cornes [see Pavlich] Richmond - They have no one I can think off. Perhaps Brett Deledio. St Kilda - Nick Dal Santo [A-grade midfielder Melb needs] Sydney - Ryan O'Keeffe [quality forward, can play up the ground] West Coast - Chris Judd [see Pavlich, Cornes] WB - Adam Cooney [more midfield class]

Deelist. Get it? Dee-list.

Yep, great mark. But I voted for Staker.

Obviously I'm not privy to all that went on in each case, but from the outside it looks like there may have been one difference. As I stated in another thread, according to both Sheedy and Peter Jackson they struck an agreement in January that this was probably going to be his last year as coach of Essendon. Obviously the board would be aware of this. Yes Ray Horsburgh lied to the media the other night, but I don't think Sheedy was under any illusions about his position. I get the feeling that Daniher was expecting to at least coach this season out. Paul G gave that impression in interviews he did earlier in the year. Perhaps he too was lying to the media and he and Neale had discussions about the situation in private, meaning Neale was well aware about what position he was in. Who knows. It's only what it looks like from the outside looking in.

I heard the press conference, and I can assure you that both Sheedy and Jackson said that they had an agreement in January that this would be his last year at Essendon as coach. Whether he goes on to coach at another club is up to him.

I'm happy with the outcome. A few on here have bagged Essendon for our treatment of Sheedy, but from what I heard at the press conference, I am satisfied with the process. He knew all along this would probably be his last season, but is still very focused on winning games of football with Essendon.

Press conference was very interesting. Sheedy was jovial as always. He will coach out the rest of the season, which pleases me. Apparently he and Peter Jackson came to an agreement in January that this would be his last season as coach, and it would coincide with the retirement of James Hird. They just chose today to announce it, to put a stop to the media circus that was surrounding the whole situation.

How Ironic!! The week after Norm Smith was inducted as a legend into the AFL Hall of fame. The more I think about it, the more I'm coming to terms with it. As I said earlier, I didn't think he would be our coach next year, so as long as he coaches the season out, and the team has a really dash at the finals, I'll live with it. I jokingly asked a Richmond supporter here at work how should I feel about this, as I have never had to deal with my coach being sacked, whereas he has had lots of practise. And he said in all seriousness, not to get too upset now, but to wait until you find who the replacement is, that's when you might want to get upset.

I still don't know all the facts. Press conference at 12.00pm. Look, I didn’t think that he would be coach next season, but why not let him coach out the season, and let him do it with dignity. I think he deserves to go out the way that he wants. If they announce that the club and Sheedy came to an agreement that he will coach the season out, I will accept that, but if the decision is effective immediately, I won't be happy. This is unprecedented in the modern era, someone coaching for 27 years. Everyone here saw the reception Neale Daniher got in his last game, Sheedy more than deserves a similar farewell. I hope he gets it.

Is this what you meant : I must admit, it would be a strange time to sack him, the Friday before a game. Surely a sacking is best done earlier in the week. Geez, I'm not bad. I had actually forgot I said that. As for Sheedy, I really don't know. I just hope we don't cave into the media pressure and make a decision based on a couple of losses. Surely we are showing a little more ticker than the Blues at the moment.

Denis Pagan's manager Ron Joseph has confirmed that Denis has been sacked and an offical announcement will be made at a press conference at 2.00pm.

I heard there was a hoax email sent out earlier today relating to Pagan getting sacked today. SEN even sent someone down to Optarse Oval to investigate but Carlton denied it. I must admit, it would be a strange time to sack him, the Friday before a game. Surely a sacking is best done earlier in the week.

I thought Davey had another poor game. In the first quarter where the game was won and lost, he had no influence at all, and failed to get a possession. Most of his stats and goals came when the game was over in junk time. And to top it off, he will get reported for striking Selwood. Not sure how the Sunday Age gave him Melbournes best player in front of McLean.

Hmmmmm....backline looks a bit suss. I'd get rid of Hughes, put Ingerson to full back, and swing Neitz to CHB. You can then put Jakovich to full forward and put someone like Andy Lovell, Ricky Jackson or Yze in the forward pocket.

That's not like you Y_M. Are you alright?

Is he the bloke who plays Ben Grimm [aka The Thing] in the Fantastic Four movies? Triple M call him "mini chief", in reference to Jason Dunstall.

Different things affect people differently. You're probably right [you usually are], but I was just throwing up a suggestion as to why Aarons output was non existent yesterday.

Yep, awesome effort from those guys. It's a disturbing trend though, first Tom Lonergan for Geelong last year, and now Ricky having near death experiences from football injuries. Not anyones fault, just freak accidents.

A.Davey - worried about brother? Just a guess, but everyone knows how close the family is, perhaps he was comcerned about Alwyns injury from friday night and he wasn't quite switched on. I was amazed to see he only picked up 4 touches playing on Ryan Houlihan. Still, his goal in the 2nd quarter was a cracker.

Aaron Rogers. But overall, CAC has done an excellent job. Early call on Simon Buckley Yze_Magic. Anyway, where have you been lately?

It's an interesting attack Al. I sense through your Lloyd comments and this that you have an obvious hate for all things Essendon. That's understandable, you must be very jealous. Or did Fridays night result especially hurt you. I'm not kidding myself. I'm not here to give approval. But like most here, if I agree or disagree with someones comments I'll say so. I have just as much right to share my thoughts here as anyone. I've said all along that I realise I am an outsider, and if the majority of posters want me gone, I'll disappear. But I'd like to think I can contribute to a Melbourne website positively even though I am an Essendon supporter. If you don't give a toss about what I say, and want me to keep my thoughts to myself, I have a pretty simple solution. Don't read my posts.

At least that is a sensible argument, and I respect that. Rather than the 'Lloyd is a weak dog scum who deserves to get 4 weeks if it was up to me' type of stuff. When Alan Smithee compares Lloyd to Wallis [i assume it's Dean Wallis he is talking about], any other comments he makes lose all credibility with me.

I can't talk for any other Bombers fan, but I for one, and I've said this all along, don't think the incident was worthy of any player missing a game of footy through suspension. But again, I think alot of the Lloyd hate on this site is contributing to the attitudes of some.

Thanks guys, but I'm ok. It's weird though, the week she passed away in 2002 was after a friday night Essendon vs Melbourne game at the Dome. Essendon won that game by 12 points after being 44 points in front at 3/4 time. The other night, Essendon almost blew a 37 point lead at 1/4 time. Very similar games. I'll never forget that game in 2002, me and my wife had our tickets ready to go along, but ended up spending the weekend in hospital with Ashleigh and we missed the game.

And I apologise to the people I referred to as gooses. Out of line from my behalf.