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3 hours ago, CHF said:

A good team wide response to the game they served up last week.

Midfield was much sharper today with excellent pressure and intensity. It really does make a world of difference to the team performance in the forward and back 50 arcs. The selection was spot on this week and the team was well coached on the day. Goodwin played them to their strengths and they stood up when challenged, both as a team and as individuals. 

What to say about JVR's debut??? Really, all you could ask for. Put himself about, tackled tirelessly and kicked a few. A lot of good games in there. Chandler, Spargo, Jordon, Sparrow, Rivers, McVee and Hibberd....... lesser lights but all had telling contributions. 

Liked Grundy's game. It improved the longer the game went on. 

Viney will need to find some form to keep his spot. In a strongly performing midfield and with depth knocking on the door, you need to be 'on' every week. 

A lot to like from this game.

Kossie back next week??? Who do you take out of that side for him? Tough decisions to make. The performance of the small forwards this week shows what my lie ahead if he walks at the end of the season. I would have him in the team next week and want him to sign on for another couple of seasons at least but today's performance gives me high hopes for the future.

Nice one Boys!

If you were Kossie why would you walk? He may not be paid quite as much as some of the lower sides would pay him, but he would be very well paid. You just need to look at Jackson at Fremantle to see how very good players can become rapidly irrelevant if they are also not in very good teams. I’m sure Goodie and the boys would be pointing that out to him. I’d be staggered if he walked….

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Just a great response from the club.

Took all the Swans pressure and gave back double.

 

And we get back Kossie next week. All we need is Max and we have the unbeatable GF side…

On 3/30/2023 at 3:19 AM, Tarax Club said:

On the road will be preferably viewing Casey Demons replay rather than Melbourne Demons. Unless someone can point me to the last 12 minutes edit. 

I was just thinking the same thing. Nice to have an escape route…

29 minutes ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

Did we ever look at Prahran which we have historical ties with. The only problem would be parking but the train station is easily accessible. Stonnington wouldn't be putting anything into it so it would be all Danny. Nice opportunity for our "dear" leader to swan around with the hoi poloii of Stonniington.

The ground has to be the same size as the “G”. I doubt Prahan fits that criteria.

9 hours ago, Mickey said:

 

That’s great to know and very reassuring. 
 

since you seem to know a bit about this, what is the strength of the rumours that Dailey is taking a full time job as a coach at Geelong in both the men’s and women’s programs. Doesn’t seem to make any sense to me given her long term commitment to the Dees, in both programs. Surely we could find a spot for her.

On 11/28/2022 at 5:28 PM, BDA said:

Paywall so don’t know her reasons. Is she from WA originally? More money? I don’t understand the appeal otherwise.

she should stay with us and remain a one club player. Try to win another flag. She’s still good enough to go around with us for another year or two at least.

How about personal relationship? I don’t know, just taking an educated guess…..

I’m tipping Demon by 20+ points going away in the Grannie  with Bannon and Harris both playing blinders. The perfect introduction for the men’s 2023 season where they will be unstoppable with their elite All Australian ruck combination……..

On 11/5/2022 at 2:03 PM, jnrmac said:

Suspect they have done that and know that answers

 

Doubt they will air them publicly

The question will be whether the coaching staff change the game plan or continue with the same old same old that got them to second on the ladder

I hope they add variety because clubs have worked us out and the predictability killed us

8 x 90 pts or more scored against us vs 2021 only one did that happen.

I think the recruitment of Grundy will force a change in game plan for the better. No team will be able to match up on it, especially if we also get Van Rooyan (sp?) firing up forward. Interesting time ahead…

On 11/4/2022 at 9:31 PM, Chook said:

Above everything else, that was an incredibly physical match, up there with any men's game I've ever seen. Womens' footy between two good sides is now at the point that it is legitimately exciting in its own right as a spectacle and a great representation of what Australian football is all about.

Yes, isn’t it great to see the women’s game developing so fast, and that the D’s are at the forefront of that. It will become the most popular women’s sport overtaking netball and basket ball within a couple of years. Even though the girls play the game a little differently, it is really growing on me - the standard improves so much from year to year, and is now really skilful. Exciting stuff!

23 hours ago, kev martin said:

Tough first quarter, and in the second we said we are not going to take it anymore!

We didn't handle the early pressure, were well beaten at stoppages, and lacked any system going into the forward 50. Concerned about our need to break tackles, but eventually we were able to do it.

Our tackling was great, though we were not rewarded by umpires for it.

Zanker took a while to get into it.

Loved the way Hanks reads the play, thought our best was her and Purcell.

How about Bannan, take it on, wow.

Others who played well were Mithin for her role of closing down others and the number of hard hits she took, also Lampard, Macklin, Gillard, Chaplin, Sheriff, Daisy, Paxy, Lauren, West, and Goldy.

Taylor gets a hard run from the umps. First Quarter, blocked when in mark contest, pushed in the back when rucking and a hit to her head. Doesn’t complain, just keeps going harder.

Great coaching again, Hore, to on the ball and used as an outside carrier really messed with the Crows set up. He got the match ups right after the first, and closed down their ball getters/movers. Loved that he talked to Mithin at half-time, maybe about how to avoid the tackler and to prioritise tagging.

Hore needs to goal when out front, know the moment, a 12 point turn around and gave them a sniff.

Well fought after that, by the team. The Crows didn't like it, LOL, (somebody did belt Randall) we gave them no room, our pack running and tackling hurt them.

Birch loves her footy.

Chaplin looks to be the talker at the start of the second, all buying in.

Good win Dees.

I love the way we now take the game on, and have the players now to do it successfully. Putting Haris in the ruck has been an inspiration.

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

Great win. We played Adelaide really well at their physical game. There wee a few moments I really enjoyed tonite. Bannons run in the 2nd was delirious. How many times will you see a mens player get on a run like that. Practically never. 

Purcell I thaught was our best player and I love West going in for the footy like a bull in a chook shed. Apart from their pumped up start I thaught our backline players were excellent. Gay, Birch and Gillard were great all night.

Yes, loved Bannon’s balk around the mark to run in to goal. The crows were dumbstruck…….she’s a talent there is no doubt about that….

8 hours ago, binman said:

I might have missed it, but what is the Pies rationale for trading Grundy?

Do the pies think he doesn't suit how they want to play or is it as simple as wanting to get his salary off the books?

Salary off the books l believe…..

On 9/2/2022 at 11:16 PM, Mr Steve said:

I don't think Melksham  was that bad but he should have kicked three goals which might have changed the game.

Not sure what changes we should make. T mac might need another game and won't get one. Bedford a chance but also a risk. Jvr might give the forward line a different look but is he ready. Still believe it's the kicking into the forward line that hurts us.

I think JVR is a better bet than TMac, and l think this may well happen. We need to be adventurous in this “last chance saloon”, particularly to freshen up our attack. Now is the time….

On 8/23/2022 at 5:20 PM, Slartibartfast said:

But they have a lot we would want.  Young, Serong, Chapman, Henry, Amiss to name a few plus their first rounder.

I know they don't want to deal those players but that could get the deal done so suggesting they "just can't" isn't right.  WCE sit in the wings.  PSD is an option for us.  They've rated Jackson very highly based on their reported offer to him.

I'd play hard ball.  WCE have pick 2.  Freo, it's in your hands.

How about Jackson for Bradshaw - when you think about it it is not as silly as it sounds!!!

On 8/23/2022 at 5:39 PM, Pink Freud said:

EDMUND’S MEGA TRADE UPDATE ON TARANTO, JACKSON, GUNSTON, RIOLI AND MORE

“West Coast believe they’re still in the hunt for Luke, so we cannot rule out the Eagles.

“Fremantle are seen to be the frontrunner there, that might still be the case, but the Eagles maintain they’re still in the race for the WA-born ruckman.

“Luke Jackson’s gone, let’s just state that as fact.” 

 

A  question:

1. Do we really think Luke would go from a premiership team with a realistic chance to win 2 or 3 more over the next 5 years, to a side which probably won’t be in the window for the next 5-7 years. Sure he would be paid maybe 25% more at the Eagles in his home state, but it is a lot to give up, and it is not as though he would be poorly paid at the Dees. I rather suspect that after we win our second flag in two years, and with every prospect of a couple more after that, that he just might stay with us to get the glory that that represents. 

14 hours ago, rjay said:

For what it's worth I think Lyon will coach EFC...

If they get all the housecleaning done in the next few weeks then there could be a good opportunity there.

Part of the housekeeping would be to move Sheedy off the board, but maybe that is too big an ask.

Adem should have a good look if the opportunity presented for him.

...as much as I would hate to see him coach them.

They deserve each other. What a pain that man is. His mate Eddie isn’t going too is he?

11 hours ago, CYB said:

Do the AFLPA weald the power to sanction another player? i wasn't aware that they (potentially) had this authority.

The AFLPA can make whatever rules they like so long as they get the agreement of their members, and the governance is agreed. I’m sure most players  by now would have a pretty good understanding of this incident, and I’d be amazed if 99 percent of them didn’t agree that Zorko should be severely sanctioned.
 

This is a governance issue and therefore should take place behind closed doors and need not involve HP at all if he doesn’t want. It is however of such outrageous behaviour that it requires some penalty, if only to ensure justice is done, and to make all players realise there are consequences for this sort of outrageous antisocial behaviour, especially when directed at innocent fellow players. 

5 hours ago, CYB said:

With the information presented like this it really does put things into perspective. Would love Champion data to do some kind of weighted ladder taking into consideration the fixture degree of difficulty. Not sure how you would go about it, but i think it will show a very different top 4. Richmond probably miss top 8 and Carlton/Saints probably get in. 

Don’t you guys realise the fixture is deliberately weighted against the most successful teams from the previous year, hence our extraordinarily difficult fixture this year as the reigning premiers. Frankly l don’t mind that, it is part of the equalisation process. 
 

What l do mind is when unfair fixturing is built in permanently to the system aka Geelong. Their ground is substandard in terms of size, and gives the Cats an advantage like no other in the AFL where their win/loss record is over 80%. It would be far fairer to play these matches against us either at the “G” or at Marvel, or even Alice Springs or Darwin. Then there will be no permanent built in advantage irrespective of where we or they perform on the ladder. 

49 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

It’s difficult to know what to make of the last few months in terms of our fitness yet I reckon. I really felt against the Dogs, Pies and even Carlton (bar the miracles of Melksham and Koz) that we looked out on our feet after half time. I could see the players really trying, but just not having that burst. Even on Friday night it’s hard to know what to make of the last half, as the game was over, and then the weird emotional vacuum of the Petty incident.

I’m very hopeful we will see the benefits and effort of Selwyn in the next month, but I do think the club would have been sweating on him after the Pies game in particular. It’s a fine balance, and I’d imagine a really difficult job.

It this is all in the plan. Very similar to Burgess in as much as we have this hardening up period in the third quarter of the season (ie very tough training and conditioning) when we do expect to lose some games, but cherry-ripe for the last weeks of the year. Happened this year (and last). 
 

Watch our game go up several notches in two weeks against the Swans…..

2 hours ago, BDA said:

If one of our players said what Zorko said I'd want him suspended at the least and i would seriously consider cutting them from the list unless genuine contrition and remorse was shown

Agree with others. Out of respect to Harry we should close this thread

Having now pieced together what happened,  l agree we should move on as HP requested. It was a horrible thing that happened, and Zorko should be seriously sanctioned by the Lions or preferably dismissed altogether. There should be no place in AFL for such a character.

l think it is also time that the players start policing themselves, as David King suggested the other night ie the players association hands out suspensions/bans themselves for just such instances as this: after all, it is in nobody’s interests, least of all the players and the clubs,  to allow this sort of behaviour to tarnish what is generally a very well regarded playing group (particularly when compared to NRL). Zorko should be banned indefinitely. 

11 hours ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I think our game plan for our forward structure would be more structurally stable with a 2nd tall. If TMac is taken off the injury list in a week or two is he a realistic consideration for the finals campaign? 
 My heart says yes, my head says no (lack of match practice/ fitness).  I am not even sure if there is a pathway or even time to consider progressing him through the VFL. It may also be dependent on who we are playing. And, if he is selected, who does he replace? What are your thoughts? 

I think we definitely need another tall forward. If TMac doesn’t come up l think we should seriously consider van Rooyen. He can also ruck. He has shown outstanding form at Casey lately and will be an important player for us in the future, and we have shown we are prepared to throw rookies into the deep end in finals very successfully (aka Bowey last year). 
 

Worth considering l think….what about you guys?

20 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

You stole my thunder rpfc.  
MFCSS tells me that the ease with which we were able to win said  more about Brisbane’s ineptitude than our brilliance, but obviously, I hope I’m wrong.  However, wherever the ‘balance’ lies, a win like that must be a huge fillip for our confidence going into finals.

I seem to remember similar questions being asked after our first final last year, and yet we followed it up by smashing initially Geelong in the Prelim, and then overwhelming the Dogs in the Grannie, each time being more and more dominant. 

l suspect this has mostly to do with how the team is managed fitness-wise, even though it is a worry for us supporters as we go through this load sharing in the second half of the year which seems to result in inexplicable losses. 

l now have confidence that our team management knows what they are doing, particularly after the win last weekend. I’m sure BinMan will expand on this further in this evening’s podcast. His insights have been very re-assuring for the “doubting-thomases” like myself. 
 

On 8/16/2022 at 8:54 AM, one_demon said:

Amazing.  Let's get to 70000 next year!

With this number, we are reaching up to be classed as a “power club”. At this rate of improvement and continued success on the field we could get to 100k within three years. That is huge. I can remember when the figure was less than half our current number. Here are the latest numbers:

I measure our rating and potential through my “grandkids test”. I have four grand kids under 7. Up until last year they used to be ridiculed when they wore their Dees jumper in the play ground. That all changed around September last year. Now they tell me the majority of footy jumpers in the playground are red and blue. 

An encouraging sign…

16 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

May on radio said that Zorko denies saying what Petty thinks he said.

Hmmm.

Of course he would….you don’t think any of these clown have any integrity do you. Doubt they even know what it means!

I was hoping Binman’s prognostications about loading and player management would come to pass, and wow have they ever. When you are in the midst of winter and the Dees get their regular form slump you do have your doubts. Re-assurance  is provided from the Demonland podcast even though l do have may doubts. But NO MORE, my faith is restored, and l look forward to watching our inevitable march to victory over the next five weeks. Smashing the Cats will be a joy!!