thevil1

Yeah good point, we start winning the rest takes care of itself also, or at least has every chance to. Roosy's b&f speech I think set the tone for whatever we're about to attempt this trade period.

I would think as the head of this clubs on field performance & lead media personality/'face of the club', he's here fire up everyone involved in the MFC. PJ certainly put him up as a beacon of hope for us supporters!

Always knew he'd end up at Richmond.

Got beaten in the air by Bennell repeatedly in one game this year ffs!!! Lol But he's loyal, so we should just keep playing him & payin him $400k + a year for that hey??

I wonder if we had of traded Sylvia when he still had some hope & potential left whether we would've got more than band 3 compo like we did? Further, if he had've been traded at 22/3 years old he might've turned it around enough to have cracked into a top 4 club in what should be the prime of his career. He wanted to stay too until he decided he'd had enough........ Just saying, it can be best for both parties even when one of the parties may not be able to see it at a young age.

Yep, came straight from Hell!!!

Comparing watts to Burgoyne (one of the toughest skinny players ever) & dal santo? Really! They've contributed to grand finals mate & dal may look slow but they both impact contests a 10000% more than Watts.

It appears Anderson's tweet was on the money if this is true & we are clearly working on getting really big fish, not just draft picks.

And I really hope your initial thoughts are still right! With Danger & Sheil we know what we're getting & how they will perform on the big stage for us next year giving us instant improvement. Draft picks & Trenners not so much.

They'd argue it is better than the nothing they'll give them next year when he walks to them as a FA......

They sure as hell are as of 2014, but as juniors? Really?? Cause Scully had huge wraps on him a year out from being drafted & Trenners was supposedly the best SA junior since Buckley.

Thnx for sharing. That's a better strike rate than I ever got out of Connolly.

Jones ranked 101 as our highest player with duds like Alex Rance well ahead of him!! Ha!!!! Griffen would be lucky to be top 20 imo.

Then how would we shower him in glory if he's both wrong publicly & right privately. What would be the point in that? Could only be to [censored] with us! Haha

Stevens and Hannebury are a stretch as elite/a-graders to me, but you did manage to put together something plausible IMO. 3 for Stevens seems a tad high, Pick 10/12 & a 2nd rounder for Hannebury is fair-ish, although dunno why swans would do it unless he really does want back to VIC and/or they have salary cap issues. In fact I'm not sure why saints would move their best midfielder in order to take Petracca as well as McCartin either. But it is the saints so who knows.......

I just looked up his highlights & stats, he had a big year, but doesn't scream elite to me either. Looked very good though, maybe he can get to elite?

Fair enough. FWIW I rate Brayshaw as the surest thing in the draft, Petracca still a work in progress as a midfielder & neither certain stars of the afl in a weak draft pool. But that's just my opinion. Trenners equalling his best year (from 3 years ago) let alone bettering it in 2015 is even more of a gamble in my mind too, although I'd love him to become a star like many others here, I just don't see it.

And chook in Perth, what other scenarios are on the table? This is outta control!! Lol

Exactly!

Why do we need or want a pick 1 upgrade & is Steven really worth a pick that high on his own? (Honestly I ask cause I barely saw saints play at all this year)

I heard Wallet say it on trade radio, something along the lines of Petracca is the kid they really want if they can get him. But your point stands, I don't have evidence myself. Now do you have any evidence Treloar wants back to VIC?

What is? Demoneyes [censored] eyed version of Picks 3,12,23 & Trenners (with both sides of the Richmond trade going to Adelaide for no apparent reason) or the actual trade which is effectively Picks 3,23 & Trenners? I think Danger & Beams (& Sloane or Parker) would be worth that. Easily. Pick 12 is Richmond's for now people!! If you want a star you pay for it, Blues paid Pick 2 plus Kennedy who was pick 5 with 2 years development in him for Judd. Stars cost!

The hawks paid dearly for Cheney's marginally better replacement though hey?!? (Yes I'm talking about you Mr Spud Chips Potato Face)

Btw, Mitchell at swans would not walk into our team & clearly be our best player, not now (Jones) & probably never with Tyson & Hogan already here.

I'm calling it now, GNF is full of it!!!! Built up a few cheap credits & is now cashing in on laughing at us all!! However, since I'm here...... He said it's 2 players who will clearly be our best talents on our list as soon as they arrive, so better than what Jones was in 2014, it could only mean (and not all of these are CLEARLY better than Jones IMO - I love our captain): Crows - Sloane & Danger (Tex not better than Jones based on 2014 IMO but can be). Magpies - Pendles & Beams (some would argue Steele is getting up there as well, I don't). Giants - Nobody (none better than Jones although Trelore, Sheil, Cameron & other could be next year or after). Swans - Kennedy, Franklin, Parker, maybe Hannerberry (I really rate our Jonesy). Power - Boak & Grey (plenty of others potentially as good/better than Jones but not clearly better yet). I'm just going by what clubs others have guessed, I got no idea what the cryptic msg really means. So realistically which 2 can we land? Beams is on the market for sure, none of the others are publicly but it's assumed the crows have their work cut out resigning all 3 on big contracts. There's rumors aplenty re Danger and Sydney have been eerily quite, even regarding getting screwed with the COLA changes. Maybe something surprising coming from there? However, I don't see how we get 2 players better than Jones' 2014 out of picks 2,3 & potentially Trenners/Pick23 or 12, unless there's also interest from one of these teams in a Watts or Grimes type (maybe relates to Anderson's tweet about more former high picks to go for trade?). So, after that waste of 2 minutes as an excercise, at this stage I'm convinced GNF's claim is BS. Of course, if we end up with 2 superstars better than Jones was in 2014 next week I won't be complaining at all!!