Bluey's Dad

I assume he wasn't included because he's in another league.

No?

I'll see myself out.

41 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

Very interesting:  Secret session for Dees avoids 'prying eyes'

Says we trained at Port Melbourne, not a lot of options there.

Maybe Goodwin's telling porkies to keep supporters and media out.

TBH I'm shocked at the notion that anyone would want to watch Melbourne (of all teams) training to glean some sort of secret success sauce.

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Fair enough. My disllike/disrespect for King is obviously a touch flippant and King isn't a moron - I daresay I'm mostly annoyed by the whole scheme of what he's paid to do is to mostly state the obvious.

But wait! Why am I stepping back!? This is the 21st century after all!

David King's undermining of Neeld's coaching legitimacy was the crack that ruined our young teams cohesion! Neeld was forcing through a new level of professionalism and commitment that the lazy and casual players at the club were looking to avoid, and they used King's media role as a backchannel to put the pressure back on the coach instead of them! Our entire 'second failure' period is actually the Fault of David King personally!

(in need of a sarcasm font for that bit, I always like backwards italics as an option, please return to normal program)

If you're not working in PR or politics, your talents are being wasted.

Brilliant.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We should have picked Wines. 

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I'm pretty confident I haven't read any new content on this site for years Choke, and I'm not even kidding. It's amazing how we're all suckers for the footy merry-go-round.

I don't know what you mean.

I haven't read about Toumpas v Wines in at least an hour. What more do you want?

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Other predictions:

- We will win by 15 points in a tight fought contest played at a slightly lower standard than we all hoped for

- The conclusions drawn will vary widely between "real deal" and "xxx will [censored] us in yy weeks time in this form", which won't happen

- Hawthorn will get a run of four goals which will get so much airtime it breaks the Demonland server. We will get a run on of goals which will go unmentioned 

- OMac will be held responsible for every goal, Tyson for every turnover, and our payment for Lever referred to

- Hogan, Trac and Oliver to dominate.

Sometimes I worry that you read too much demonland Nasher, such is your uncanny ability to predict our behaviours.

I can't imagine what a toll that would take on a person.

R U OK?

1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

Got a feeling we will [censored] the pants off them.

Our midfield is way too deep and talented and just starting to come together..  Hogan has added a whole new dimension and Salem is hitting form. 

Deez by 63

2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

They kicked 5.3 in the first quarter and the first 4 un-answered.

So it was close to a six goal run in a quarter.

You are dodging the real issue though. Which you did earlier in the year and so do many other supporters on here.

The next two games are going to be a massive slap in the face for many on here who only choose to look at positives in our game. 

Hawthorn and Richmond will punish us if we have any sort of lapse. Absolutely punish us.

Agreed.

Plus I don't think either of those team will gift us the frees North did within our forward 50. Goldstien's high tackle and McDonald's gift pass to Garlett come to mind. There were more but those are the ones I could remember off the top of my head.

Both of those teams can hit targets. North can't. Neither of those team have Majak Daw holding down a backline spot. Apart from the first quarter he was a complete liability for North. He couldn't outmark Petracca 1-on-1 despite the significant size difference. Massive spud.

I feel sick

Just now, Demonland said:

Next people will be complaining about the sheen on Jonesy's head not being accurate enough for their liking.

The sheen on Jonsey's head is not accurate enough for my liking.

25 minutes ago, nutbean said:

I never understood this from day one - he is going to Mara a lago every second weekend. He would go with a whole retinue of staff - surely the hotel is billing the government for that ? how on earth does that work ? Trump Administration paying Trump the businessman for accommodation ???

That is 100% correct.

He stays at the resort in his capacity as POTUS. The government pays for his room and the rooms for all his entourage/security.

They pay the owner of Mar-a-lago, who is Trump.

He literally profits from staying at his own resort. He did this in his first weekend as POTUS. It's outrageous, but the GOP and his sycophantic follows don't seem to care. Again, if a Democrat did this they would call for a revolution.

A few hours ago his National Security Adviser resigned. You know, the guy who replaced the last guy who was fired for lying to the VP. Oh and Trump tweeted last week that his National Security Adviser wasn't going anywhere (because a week before that, Trump fired his Secretary of State so questions were asked).

But Trump assures us that he "has the best people". What a joke.

Edit: Forgot to mention John Dowd has also retired. Dowd was the head of Trump's legal defence regarding the Mueller investigation. 

I thought only Islamic Fundamentalists blew themselves up?

Austin Bombing Suspect a Homeschooled Christian Conservative

This has been a crazy week.

Summons Issued for Trump in Emoluments Case

Trump has been a naughty boy by not disclosing his assets:

They argue that Trump’s refusal to divest from his sprawling business empire — in particular, the Trump International Hotel in downtown D.C. — has meant that foreign governments have directly paid the Trump Organization for hotel bookings and events.

Article says he has 3 weeks to respond as he's been included as a personal defendant.

Also for anyone thinking he can just pardon himself - these are cases heard by State courts, the President cannot pardon himself (or be pardoned by another President) for State level crimes, only Federal ones. I believe this is one the reasons Robert Mueller has disclosed to the New York Attorney General his findings so far, so that New York can charge him with State-level money laundering (or whatever the charge ends up being) if he tries to pardon himself Federally. This assumes the Mueller investigation leads to charges against Trump himself, which it may not. I posted a list of those Mueller has indicted so far previously in this thread.

Remember, Americans made Carter give up his Peanut farm, but somehow it's ok that Trump still owns a massive multi-national conglomerate and owes massive debts to the banks he now has power to legislate over. Seems fair.

God [censored] damnit

Love the tracc one

6 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

LOL,  counting the perpetrator as a student/victim just to try and make it look like I was wrong.   Incredible mental gymnastics.   

Fact - an armed officer saved lives.  Thats all that matters here.  President Trump was right once again.     Arm the teachers, save lives.  It's not that hard to comprehend.  

A student died. You were wrong. Your callousness doesn't negate that fact.

CNN covered the story. You were wrong. Your ignorance doesn't negate that fact.

In this case, the armed teacher killed the gunman and saved lives. This has happened before, and in other cases armed security guards have had no effect.

I posted a story about a teacher with a gun who accidentally fired it in a classroom and injured 3 students. But you haven't responded to that. I assume you'd say "well that's the price you pay for security", which is interesting given you live in Australia where school shootings do not occur. For whatever reason (cultural, legal, whatever) we do not have this issue. We did not solve it with guns in schools, what makes you think America can?

Arming teachers is moronic. This guy explains it much better than I can. It's a very long twitter thread but well worth the read.

I suspect the accusation that you're a troll is correct.

2 minutes ago, dworship said:

Conversely, did you hear the one about the teacher who accidentally discharged a firearm in a classroom will teaching firearm safety ....' I'm just sayin'

He has no idea. Literally said you wouldn't see this story on cnn, and I provided a link demonstrating that you can in fact find it on cnn. He said no students were killed. Gunman was a student.

He is living in a fantasy land.

1 minute ago, demondame said:

No not all, just an innocent Demonland life member who has wandered over, because it was at the top of the list of those unread.

Don’t worry, I won’t come back, I’ll leave you to it

 

Yeah this is not a good place if you value your sanity. I try to stay away but relapse constantly.

7 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

The Maryland school shooter today was killed by an ARMED SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER at the school.

The shooter was the only fatality.   No students were killed.

I am sure this will be ignored by all the anti Trumpers though, and you wont hear a peep about it on CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/maryland-school-shooting-resource-officer-response-trnd/index.html

This is why people don't take you seriously. That's CNN covering the incident. It's not being ignored by 'the liberal media' or whatever.

Also, the gunman was a student. So one student was killed - you should keep this in mind.

My god, how much cool-aid did you drink? 

Only last week a trained, armed teacher accidentally injured 3 students when he lets his gun go off:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/three-injured-as-teacher-accidentally-discharges-gun-in-class/9550762

Amerca's gun laws are [censored]. Trump isn't helping here at all. From memory (cbf with sources atm, too late at night), he's said:

- We need to arm teachers
- We should take away people's guns and ignore due process (I'm astounded the '2nd amendment people' still support him after this).
- Ridiculed a Republican Senator for being in the pocket in the NRA
- Was a massive recipient of NRA funding during his Presidential campaign

He's inconsistent and not helpful at all.

35 minutes ago, dieter said:

It's like a former CIA executive telling someone on CNN that the USA interfered in countless countries, then proceeded to name them, Chile, Iran, Venezuela, Colombia etc etc etc

Yeah feels the same doesn't it.

I have a feeling there will be more sickening revelations when Mueller finishes his investigation. Assuming Trump doesn't replace Rosenstein with someone who'll fire him as Nixon did. Mueller's already indicted the following:

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But he has now agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine

source coz I was too lazy to type them all out, was just the first thing I googled when I looked for a list of Mueller's indictments.

Previously we knew about them leveraging huge amounts of data for political campaigns, but the revelation that the data may have been both obtained and used illegally is new, to me at least.

The channel 4 videos also have the CEO admitting to interfering with foreign elections, setting honey traps, bribes etc which are also of course illegal.

Seriously watch them. They're startling.

1 hour ago, dieter said:

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I understand that where you come from. It is not a very nice place, sweetie. And it's probably best if we put each other on the ignore list. Good bye.

By the way, your post makes me want to puke. How can an immoral imbecile like Trump suck in so many people? It's way beyond my comprehension.

Funny you should say that, the Brits worked it out and are currently producing a series. First 3 episodes are out.

https://www.channel4.com/news/data-democracy-and-dirty-tricks-cambridge-analytica-uncovered-investigation-expose

Only last week I posted in the fake news thread a report citing an Oxford study that said right wingers share and believe more fake news than left wingers. And now we see why - they were being deliberately fed this crap to win elections by a sophisticated and illegal campaign. It's not that they are worse people or more vulnerable - they were targeted in a very specific way.

Oh and today a Fox News commentator quit saying he didn't want to be part of the propaganda machine:

"Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration," wrote Ralph Peters, a Fox News "strategic analyst."

"Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed," he wrote.

"Today, I feel that Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers." 

Source:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters?utm_term=.bk7QALjAQ#.imG3dwyd3

So lets say it's 4 years ago. You're a reasonable conservative. You watch Fox News as your source of factual information. It degenerates into a "propaganda machine" (as quoted by Ralph Peters, above) without you noticing. At the same time your Facebook page subtly starts to contain more and more false and misleading information about political matters. Information specifically designed by Cambridge Analytica to ensure you vote the right the way. This is political advertising but illegally not labelled as such, and therefore bypasses the normal alarm bells that overlay your rationality when you are exposed to political ads.

Now 4 years later, your guy is President and is talking about firing the man investigating his campaign for the very crimes perpetrated against you on your Facebook feed. But you don't care, because Cambridge and Fox have done such a great job reducing your ability to objectively evaluate politics that you believe everything they spew at you. But your guy won. And all you are about is winning, because politics is now sport. 

Since I know a lot of you won't watch the channel 4 investigation I linked, the CEO of Cambridge Analytica literally says "It doesn't matter if it's untrue as long as they believe it". Steve Bannon was on the board of Cambridge Analytica. They were an integral part of the Trump campaign.  I highly recommend you watch those videos, only about 15 minutes each.

As an aside, @Ethan Tremblay I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say that judging from your postings over the past year I reckon you've visited /pol more than a few times. Get out dude, it's a cesspool. I strongly suspect it's where Cambridge seeded these memes in the first place, and is what Mark Turnbull (from the video above) was referring to when he said the "bloodstream of the internet". If I'm off the mark, I apologise, it's just the sense I get from a few of your posts. 

13 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Because Essendon has been so successful? 

Sorry DL it bulldust. Carlton has 6 night games on FTA I believe. People should stop sprouting that stuff and complain more about the short shrift we get. 

Yup, this is it right here.

FTA schedule has nothing to do with how good a team is and everything to do with how much Channel 7 can get from advertisers. Carlton draws viewers. We do not.

The AFL pays lip service to Friday nights being a "reward for performance" but the Carlton example from the last few years is a clear example to the contrary.

Clearly Kane Cornes has been smoking the wacky tobaci.

16 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Are you surprised? Unfortunately I'm seeing this more and more. I'm no English professor but I expect more from our press.

Me too.

Apparently the standards for a year 6 English essay are higher than a newspaper article.

Staggering.